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Can jack adapter be left on bike. Do they affect clearance. Any other known issues Thanks chuckie  |
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2010, 12:00:07 PM » |
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NO!!! The L bolts are not designed to take much stress, neither is your block. Tie your keys to the adaptor so you never forget to remove it.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 02:54:28 PM » |
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Depends on which "Adapter" you're talking about. If this is the one you're referring to then YES you can. Click HEREI have one on mine and it works just fine. The bottom of the adapter is in the same plane as the bottom of the motor. |
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 09:16:44 AM » |
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The one I have is red and is held on with 2 L shaped bolt and nut pieces that fit into holes for center stand. I cant make out if the one on ebay is similar. I bought this one on ebay but more money.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 01:44:44 PM » |
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No. You cannot leave that one on the bike. I have it as well.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 02:59:20 PM » |
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I have that one also. NO....you cannot leave it on the bike. Don't ask how I know.  |
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 04:27:02 PM » |
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I just received the "permanent" lift adapter and an OTC 1540 lift. I am working all weedkend so lift is still in package in garage but I did open lift adapter. It seems to attach to the two bolts that attach side stand to frame. I plan to attach the lift adapter (one man job) by setting up lift, placing under motor to lift bike up straight and then get under to loosen bolts to side stand and install the lift adapter. My goal is to do this without dropping bike on my head  . Any problems with this plan?? I guess I could strap bike down on lift as well for extra security. Thanks for any input. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 04:28:54 PM » |
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weekend, not weedkend. where is spell check here? |
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 05:22:15 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 06:02:56 PM » |
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Here's what it (permanent adapter) looks like OFF the bike ....  Here's what it looks like ON the bike Loosen the two side stand bolts .... slide the adapter in and tighten bolts.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 01:51:47 PM » |
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I plan to attach the lift adapter (one man job) by setting up lift, placing under motor to lift bike up straight and then get under to loosen bolts to side stand and install the lift adapter. My goal is to do this without dropping bike on my head . I just tried this - put jack under motor, lifted JUST enough to be level, when it tried VERY hard to fall over, opposite side of the side stand. Fortunately, I happened to be standing there, and saved it, but not by much! I definitely wouldn't try it again, without help... I should have my adapter (permanent one, pictured above) this week, and I'll give it another try. I might just have the wife hold the bike up, long enough for me to slide it in, and tighten it. We'll see... R |
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 02:17:31 PM » |
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If you have a couple metal jackstands, you can put them under the engine guard ( one on each side ) to hold the bike in the upright position. This will help to stabilize the bike while you work on it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 02:28:35 PM » |
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Thanks Scott and R. Will use jack stands and tie down to lift when I get to this in a few days. Sure don't want to be under any "fat lady" that starts to fall. If it doesn't seem stable I will just get extra hands to help while I bolt on the lift adapter.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 03:32:09 PM » |
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Scoot - I thought about jack stands - will they work just to hold it upright under the guards, without jack? Maybe a bar clamp to hold the distance apart of the jacks, solid?
Going to get some shrt straps, regardless...
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 04:19:15 PM » |
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Is there a purpose to leave one under the bike? I guess if you wrench on it every few days, but once a year would seem like a waste. Useless added weight.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 04:32:49 PM » |
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On the road, miles from home, need to lift it. Easy to find a jack, hard to find adapter...not a lot of weight, really, for peace of mind, IMHO.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 04:35:33 PM » |
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On the road, miles from home, need to lift it. Easy to find a jack, hard to find adapter...not a lot of weight, really, for peace of mind, IMHO.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 05:03:38 PM » |
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While I did not weigh the permanent adapter I just got, FedEx listed weight as less than 3 lbs. I can add that much weight to the bike by eating burger and having a few beers.  |
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 06:49:05 PM » |
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On the road, miles from home, need to lift it. Easy to find a jack, hard to find adapter  The thing only weighs like a pound .... maybe two |
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2010, 06:44:35 PM » |
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I plan to attach the lift adapter (one man job) by setting up lift, placing under motor to lift bike up straight and then get under to loosen bolts to side stand and install the lift adapter. My goal is to do this without dropping bike on my head . I just tried this - put jack under motor, lifted JUST enough to be level, when it tried VERY hard to fall over, opposite side of the side stand. Fortunately, I happened to be standing there, and saved it, but not by much! I definitely wouldn't try it again, without help... I should have my adapter (permanent one, pictured above) this week, and I'll give it another try. I might just have the wife hold the bike up, long enough for me to slide it in, and tighten it. We'll see... R When I installed mine, I bolted my Harbor Freight wheel chock to a couple of boards and locked the bike in it. It takes a while to install the lift because it is in an awkward place and the kickstand nuts are really tight (I used an impact wrench to loosen the suckers). I wouldn't trust my wife to hold up the Valk that long. LOL Once installed, the adapter works perfectly with my Laren lift. In fact, it has been sitting on the lift for almost two weeks while I have been waiting for my Pingel to arrive, which it did today. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2010, 07:14:33 PM » |
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OK, i just installed the lift adapter (off work today). I put jack stands under the engine guard and that worked fine to stabilize bike. The bolts to the lift stand bracket were a pain to loosen. I turned them a little, sprayed some WD-40 on them, went to a movie and when i got back they came loose with some muscle.
Getting a wrench up on them when the adapter was in position was also a PITA. Laying down on floor, trying to wrench both bolt and nut at the same time was not fun. Also it was about 110* outside so I was drenched. However, it is now installed and the bike picks right up with lift with no problems so worth the effort. Sitting here now with a cold beer feeling good.
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2010, 07:47:59 PM » |
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Getting a wrench up on them when the adapter was in position was also a PITA. Laying down on floor, trying to wrench both bolt and nut at the same time was not fun. I'm with ya on the PITA part but not too terrible. Like you said thou it works pretty good once it's mounted. Topping it off with a cold one is always a good thing. It's also a good place to install a set of horns as well .... |
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 09:49:27 PM » |
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Mine's here tomorrow, tra-la-la-la-la, mine's here tomorrow...
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2010, 03:54:30 AM » |
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I have a removable adapter I use. I don't care for the less ground clearance or the added weight (for what its worth). I have also heard of these coming off and people running over the, Ouch! I only use it 3 or 4 times for changing oil or other PM stuff. I recon if I'm on the road and something happens that I need a jack to lift the bike it's most likely not something I'm going to solve along side the road anyhow, and it will go to a shop somewhere.
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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2010, 10:39:14 AM » |
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Mine was waiting on the doorstep, when i got up this morning...well, almost afternoon...  Have to wait until the wife is off, tomorrow, to install it. Can't wait... |
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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2010, 11:37:51 AM » |
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Better put jack stands under engine guard. sort of difficult getting adapter in place and lift stand bolted back on tight. She may get very tired and will feel bad if she lets Valk fall over on you.  |
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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2010, 01:03:05 PM » |
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I put my jack under the engine and raised just enough to loosen the bolts and install the adapter. Don't have to raise it much. Just enough to take the weight off the kickstand. No biggy. Found it to be a easy install in a few minutes. |
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« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2010, 01:23:37 PM » |
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Better put jack stands under engine guard. sort of difficult getting adapter in place and lift stand bolted back on tight. She may get very tired and will feel bad if she lets Valk fall over on you. :'(
That's right, you all haven't met my wife...    thanks for the warnings - I'm nothing, if not safe. I even have an overhead lift, that I might latch onto the bike with. R |
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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2010, 02:37:25 PM » |
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This setup comes in handy for a job like the adapter install if you're by yourself  |
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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 08:57:44 AM » |
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Will the permanent lightweight adapter you are mentioning work with the Rivco centerstand?
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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2010, 09:57:59 AM » |
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This setup comes in handy for a job like the adapter install if you're by yourself I think I have the same chock (HF) ... mine pinched my tire... too narrow for a big old Valkyrie... I don't know what percent of the weight of the Valkyrie is supported by the front wheel, but I didn't want my tire pinched with several hundred pounds of weight for any extended period, so I stretched out my chock with a car jack... my shiny new chock went from "nice new" to "bent up old junk" real quick, but it still works good and doesn't pinch my tire...  -Mike |
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2010, 07:26:16 PM » |
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I've got a screwdriver just like the one stuck in the jack. Have had mine for nearly 30 years. Never seen another one like it. |
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I think I have the same chock (HF) ... mine pinched my tire... too narrow for a big old Valkyrie... I don't know what percent of the weight of the Valkyrie is supported by the front wheel, but I didn't want my tire pinched with several hundred pounds of weight for any extended period, so I stretched out my chock with a car jack... my shiny new chock went from "nice new" to "bent up old junk" real quick, but it still works good and doesn't pinch my tire... -Mike How much of a bend outward did you have to do? I have the Avon Cobra 150/80/R70 |
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2010, 04:34:33 PM » |
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the first trhing i bought after the valk was the on- off adaptor . i ve seen many valks lifted without adaptors with good results.so why the adaptor? |
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« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2010, 07:53:28 AM » |
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I think I have the same chock (HF) ... mine pinched my tire... too narrow for a big old Valkyrie... I don't know what percent of the weight of the Valkyrie is supported by the front wheel, but I didn't want my tire pinched with several hundred pounds of weight for any extended period, so I stretched out my chock with a car jack... my shiny new chock went from "nice new" to "bent up old junk" real quick, but it still works good and doesn't pinch my tire... -Mike How much of a bend outward did you have to do? I have the Avon Cobra 150/80/R70 I bent it some, put the bike in, wasn't satisfied, bent it some more, and it seemed OK so I stopped. I was looking for the bike sitting in the chock without the tire deforming... probably no big deal, and I never leave my bike in the chock very long, but I'd just as soon my tire not be deformed  -Mike |
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« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2010, 12:30:48 PM » |
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Was over to a friends on Saunday. Had (his new to him) 98 Valk up in the air on a sears jack.
Seemed stable enough to me. Why do we need an adapter to lift valk. Just asking
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« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2010, 12:56:24 PM » |
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Was over to a friends on Saunday. Had (his new to him) 98 Valk up in the air on a sears jack.
Seemed stable enough to me. Why do we need an adapter to lift valk. Just asking
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