Strange motorcycle accident...

[Walküre]

Article here:

http://www.wlfi.com/dpp/news/local/three-car-accident-shuts-down-parkway

Just the biker, with leg injuries...could have been worse!

At the first reports, it sounded like the bike caused the car to flip! Funny how things get tangled.

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[Chrisj CMA]

Sounds like yet another case of a rider that relys on the back brake either soley or at least primarily.  This is what happenes.  Dont listen to anyone that tells you NOT to use the front brake.  And, there are many out there that dont believe in the front brake........when I find them I stay away from them (at lest while we are on the motorcycles)  Be safe out there

[Cliff]

Got to use the front brake or you need alot more distance than you might have to stop.

[bigguy]

I've always used both. Just the way I was taught. Funny thing is though, on the Valkyrie it seems that back tire will start sliding faster than on my Victory, or Magna. I've locked it up a couple of times. From what I can tell, on that bike of I only had a back brake I would almost not have any brakes.

[Moonshot_1]

I must have missed something.

From the end of the report

"Brogan was taken to a local hospital and then flown to an Indianapolis hospital with a severe left leg injury. No one else was treated for injuries.

Police said Brogan was not wearing a helmet. Alcohol and drugs are not believed to be factors in the crash. "


Are they suggesting that wearing a helmet would have prevented a leg injury?

Magic things, those hemets.

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

I must have missed something.

From the end of the report

"Brogan was taken to a local hospital and then flown to an Indianapolis hospital with a severe left leg injury. No one else was treated for injuries.

Police said Brogan was not wearing a helmet. Alcohol and drugs are not believed to be factors in the crash. "

 
Are they suggesting that wearing a helmet would have prevented a leg injury?

Magic things, those hemets.

[vanagon40]

Sounds like yet another case of a rider that relys on the back brake either soley or at least primarily. . . .

Where was this reported?  Is there some basis for that?

[Chrisj CMA]

Sounds like yet another case of a rider that relys on the back brake either soley or at least primarily. . . .

Where was this reported?  Is there some basis for that?

In the article it said traffic slowed but the bike couldnt slow down fast enough.  I cannot imagine a car slowing down in traffic and me not being able to slow enough to avoid unless I was only using back brakes.  Ive seen this before, so I called like I felt it was reported.  If thats not what happened, I still dont mind sending a reminder out.....Front brakes save not back!

[Jim Ross]

Hey!  I grew up in Boswell.  Used to ride (in the 70's) with some guys from Oxford.
We're in Lafayette now, but hope to make it out to Pine Village and Boswell by the weekend to see friends.

[Walküre]

I must have missed something.

Police said Brogan was not wearing a helmet. Alcohol and drugs are not believed to be factors in the crash. "

Are they suggesting that wearing a helmet would have prevented a leg injury?

Magic things, those hemets.

Guess it depends on your perspective of things. If you believe in helmets, you consider him lucky that's ALL he got, seeing as he left the bike, and plowed into a car. If you don't believe in helmets, then you can justify not wearing one, since HE managed to escape serious head injury. Not trying to spark the helmet/no helmet controversy, just sayin'....personally, I prefer "hemets"...

Hey!  I grew up in Boswell.  Used to ride (in the 70's) with some guys from Oxford.
We're in Lafayette now, but hope to make it out to Pine Village and Boswell by the weekend to see friends.

Heya, Jim! Looking forward to seeing you on the road! I ride most days, in to Lafayette to work. I met another Valk owner, from down around Stockwell, I think he said, that works at SIA. Can't remember his name, I'm not good with names.

Was down at Pine Village last Saturday for their Car/Motorcycle show. A string of Hardley's, that pulled out about the time I got there, were the only bikes I saw. Wasn't on the bike, hadn't adjusted the carbs yet. The beast would have showed them all up. Were a few nice cars, though, and I was surprised/impressed.


Roger

[fudgie]

I must have missed something.

From the end of the report

"Brogan was taken to a local hospital and then flown to an Indianapolis hospital with a severe left leg injury. No one else was treated for injuries.

Police said Brogan was not wearing a helmet. Alcohol and drugs are not believed to be factors in the crash. "


Are they suggesting that wearing a helmet would have prevented a leg injury?

Magic things, those hemets.

Yes. The helmet could have been strapped to the side of the bike and prevented his leg from getting injured. Duh! 

We dont wear ours cause we want to go out fast. While I believe pain is pleasure, no use to survive and be in pain. Esp if I was never to ride again. I'd rather be dead on my scoot then alive sitting at home wishing I was riding.   

[JetDriver]

We dont wear ours cause we want to go out fast. While I believe pain is pleasure, no use to survive and be in pain. Esp if I was never to ride again. I'd rather be dead on my scoot then alive sitting at home wishing I was riding.   

That's a tuff one, but I think I agree.  Funny, though- I have a full face helmet and don't ride without it, I have a "crash jacket," I have "sliding jeans."  I've been riding since I was twelve and have had enough scrapes to appreciate all of the protective gear, but if I'm going to have a "big one," I think I'd just as soon go out quickly and completely.

[Walküre]

Yes. The helmet could have been strapped to the side of the bike and prevented his leg from getting injured. Duh! 

We dont wear ours cause we want to go out fast. While I believe pain is pleasure, no use to survive and be in pain. Esp if I was never to ride again. I'd rather be dead on my scoot then alive sitting at home wishing I was riding.   

Hate to say, but hope you get your wish...

When I was in the Navy, 35 years ago, I had an auto accident, resulting in a couple months in the hospital. When I was there, there was a young man there, who was in a bike accident, no helmet. His skull was basically shattered. Yet, he refused to die. He had been on life support, they took him off, and although he was vegged, he STILL refused to die. They rolled him over several times a day, to keep him from getting bed sores. When they did, the side of his head, that had been laying flat on the pillow, was still flat, while the rest was rounded. Over the course of the next hour or so, the flatness would become rounded, while the rounded would become flat.

Yeah, THAT'S the way I want to live!!! (sarcasm, for those that can't see it...) And of course, there's NEVER any proof what COULD have been, with helmet/without helmet (with seatbelt/without seatbelt, etc, etc), the doctors were pretty darn sure, he would NOT have had the same outcome, wearing a helmet.

I've seen people live, without arms and legs. I've NEVER seen one, without a head...

A 57-year-old male who suffered a motorcycle accident. He was not wearing a helmet. He suffered a severe abrasion with tissue loss through skin, temporalis muscle, temporal bone, and dura. Note brain tissue exposed through his wound. He was taken urgently to surgery for debridement and reconstruction using a rotational flap.

But, your chances of dying, ARE getting better, according to USAToday:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-26-bikehelmets_N.htm

R

[Walküre]

That's a tuff one, but I think I agree.  Funny, though- I have a full face helmet and don't ride without it, I have a "crash jacket," I have "sliding jeans."  I've been riding since I was twelve and have had enough scrapes to appreciate all of the protective gear, but if I'm going to have a "big one," I think I'd just as soon go out quickly and completely.

I PERSONALLY think that's true, until you've HAD a big one...and been saved by safety gear, with minimal damage, that very well COULD have meant serious handicap, or death, had you NOT been wearing the gear. Been there, done that!! With well over a half-million miles on two wheels, it happens...what was left of the bike could have fit in a 30 gallon trash can, and I basically walked away. Had to replace ALL the gear, even though the pants could have been salvaged, except the seat. 

I don't ride the crotch rockets anymore, and don't wear the clothing, but still have the helmet. I AM looking for clothing, though, none of the old stuff fits the "middle age spread", that mysteriously appeared, especially when I got off the cigarettes...

I don't ride much with others, partly because I don't trust too many other riders, and partly because I'd hate to have to scrape brains off the roadway, if it came to that.

R

[fudgie]

All the mc wrecks I have been on my 13 yrs of EMS, the ones that have died had helmets on. Helmet is useless when a 3/4 Dodge runs a stops sign and t-bones a sport bike. Same as seat belts. People die with them on in minor crashes. Kids aren't even safe in a car seat in the backseat, esp if you put them on the outside of the seat    One little sideswipe peels that back door open like a can opener and rips the 10 month old out.
I guess what i'm saying is when its your time to go, its your time. There is no way you can out run death. You can only prolong it.

Ive seen people live without a face and half a head missing. Not very long but they do. Its not a pretty site!

[fudgie]

I'd hate to have to scrape brains off the roadway, if it came to that.

Ugh, me too. Brains have the worse smell that sticks with ya for a day or to.