Obama creating more jobs in just 2010 than Bush did in entire presidency!

[Valkahuna]

This is a cool Google link where you can compare unemployment data for the past 20 years.  The link will select St. Charles County, MO, but you can select as many states and counties you wish.

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&idim=county:PS290300&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+st.+charles+mo#met=unemployment_rate&idim=county:PS290300
Bobbo

Great link! Thanks for posting it up. It's interesting to see how even totally different areas still follow roughly the same trends. I keep hearing how the recession is over. I think it is only if your are a politician or a banker. Sad how the two guilty groups are the ones that are actually going to benefit during this awful period of our history.

As for all the jobs being created, I always say that Figures lie, and liars figure! 

Oh well, Remember in November!!!

[Scanner]

lol, "Big Al says"...so now big al speaks of himself in the third person ...wow

I hear a lot of whining from some here, mostly from people who seem to have zero idea how we actually got in this mess.  So now they want to put the same morons and criminals who took us to the brink of global economic collapse back in charge. Genius.

I shouldn't be surprised. These are the same people who think larry the cable guy is a comedic genius; watch "dancing with the stars", listen to a drug addled, four time married, draft dodgin ex-DJ for their political views, and think wavin a flag makes them a great American.  

This country is in a world of hurt, and a big reason is because people just won't take the time, or don't have the skills, to really look at what's going on ("Same ol $hit" mentality). It's so much easier to watch FOX noise or talk radio and let them tell you what to think. Then they reinforce your/their views continually every day- that's why you watch. It makes you feel smarter and builds their ratings.

What that chart shows is that things are turning around - slowly, but getting there.  Yes, we went in debt for the stimulus. The only thing that will really pull us out is more jobs. People with jobs pay taxes, taxes pay down the deficit - if used correctly (big if).  But cut federal spending right now and we tank. End of story. Death spiral.

You have to realize the huge hole this admin inherited - the biggest recession since the depression.  That's not "beatin on GWB", that's just plain facts.  The difference is I don't want to give the shovel back to the republicans.

[Serk]

I hear a lot of whining from some here, mostly from people who seem to have zero idea how we actually got in this mess.

There are many differing hypotheses as to how we got into the fine mess we're currently in, both of individuals and of "experts". Just because some people have researched the issue, and come to a different conclusion as to who or what is responsible for the current situation does not mean those people have "zero idea" how we actually got in this mess. It means we, or at least some of us, have seen the data, we've researched it, we've thought about it, we've read differing opinions and analysis and we've come to a different conclusion than you have.

Arguing at that level is pointless, you're not going to change my mind, and I'm definitely not going to change yours, just wanting to point out that someone who doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they have no idea about the situation...

[fstsix]

Correct! why is it that the X republicans have had it with their party because they Act like Liberals, so we go Independent to revolt against our own party because we see them no different than a Democrat with the exception of having a (R) behind their name ? The TEA movement is the Framers of now in this country, We could give a Ratz A$$ about the Dems or Repubs, we see Greece coming here in Hyper speed and if we don't stand United we will just have to take or rations that Mommy hands us! So You Liberals that are still faithful to your Party line Big spending Politics, and continue to Pull straws to see who spent more money will also have Blood on your hands. Walk down Pico ave Downtown Los Angele's one night and see how far you get? without getting the $hit beat out of you! and then tell me How civilized this world is that you don't think people will Not rise Up and Repeat History Again! Looks like some of us have not learned by our mistakes !! or think the wars this country has fought and the lives that were lost were in the name of Political Correctness  

[stormrider]

Scanner, scanner, scanner, come on now and let's get real. Where I'm from people are out of work looking for jobs. School teacher lost her job and has applied to all the school districts in all the adjoing counties. For every job opening there are 50 to 150 applicants. While I was out riding this past week, everywhere I stopped to get gas or eat (and get gas) I was poliing people on their take of the economy. Everywhere, everyone said it sucked and people where out of jobs. So I guess if it depends on how you want to percieve your buddy. You gotta make up something to give validity to why you support him. Keep on trying, maybe you can justify his existence in you mind.

[musclehead]

And because someone's "best bud" is out of work the national bureau of labor statistics is wrong?

I believe a lot of peoples "best bud" is out of work.

Figures don't lie, but liars figure!

I love the "Pie chart" Serk!

yep my 'best bud ' is out of work, he's on his own and could have possibly taken a full time minimum wage job and a minimun wage part time job to make ends meet. a full time minimun wage job would have made him homeless in a month or so. the 10$ an hour jobs are going to people with a college degree, and they become the U6 underemployed. have we talked about the U3 the people not looking anymore? as much as libs warn us about 'going back to the failures of the past' I'd kind of like to look forward to 4.80 % unemployment.

I feel for the libs I really do, I mean they are a minority and they only agree ideologiclly with 1 in 5 people in the USA. they rode a political wave of unrest to power and most people now have voters remorse. the great thing about this country is the ability to correct mistakes in leadership every 2 to 4 years.

we just need to dig and find out as much as we can about prospective candidates BEFORE we start chanting "yes we can" and other platitudes

[Walküre]

Boy, I HATE to cut and paste, but can't find this posted anyplace, to link to it. Sorry in advance...

NO amount of leadership, whether it be Dem or Con, or Libertarian, is going to bring back US glory, or 5% unemployment. Sad but true...

The Middle Class in America Is Radically Shrinking. Here Are the Stats to Prove it

Posted Jul 15, 2010 02:25pm EDT by Michael Snyder

The 22 statistics detailed here prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence in America.

The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer at a staggering rate. Once upon a time, the United States had the largest and most prosperous middle class in the history of the world, but now that is changing at a blinding pace.

So why are we witnessing such fundamental changes? Well, the globalism and "free trade" that our politicians and business leaders insisted would be so good for us have had some rather nasty side effects. It turns out that they didn't tell us that the "global economy" would mean that middle class American workers would eventually have to directly compete for jobs with people on the other side of the world where there is no minimum wage and very few regulations. The big global corporations have greatly benefited by exploiting third world labor pools over the last several decades, but middle class American workers have increasingly found things to be very tough.

My addendum - the Link to 22 statistics: http://www.businessinsider.com/22-statistics-that-prove-the-middle-class-is-being-systematically-wiped-out-of-existence-in-america-2010-7#83-percent-of-all-us-stocks-are-in-the-hands-of-1-percent-of-the-people-1

Here are the statistics to prove it:

•    83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
•    61 percent of Americans "always or usually" live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
•    66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.
•    36 percent of Americans say that they don't contribute anything to retirement savings.
•    A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
•    24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
•    Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
•    Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
•    For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
•    In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
•    As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets.
•    The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
•    Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
•    In the United States, the average federal worker now earns 60% MORE than the average worker in the private sector.
•    The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
•    In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
•    More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
•    or the first time in U.S. history, more than 40 million Americans are on food stamps, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that number will go up to 43 million Americans in 2011.
•    This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
•    Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.
•    Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
•    The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.

Giant Sucking Sound

The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an hour on the other side of the world. After all, what corporation in their right mind is going to pay an American worker 10 times more (plus benefits) to do the same job? The world is fundamentally changing. Wealth and power are rapidly becoming concentrated at the top and the big global corporations are making massive amounts of money. Meanwhile, the American middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence as U.S. workers are slowly being merged into the new "global" labor pool.

What do most Americans have to offer in the marketplace other than their labor? Not much. The truth is that most Americans are absolutely dependent on someone else giving them a job. But today, U.S. workers are "less attractive" than ever. Compared to the rest of the world, American workers are extremely expensive, and the government keeps passing more rules and regulations seemingly on a monthly basis that makes it even more difficult to conduct business in the United States.

So corporations are moving operations out of the U.S. at breathtaking speed. Since the U.S. government does not penalize them for doing so, there really is no incentive for them to stay.

What has developed is a situation where the people at the top are doing quite well, while most Americans are finding it increasingly difficult to make it. There are now about six unemployed Americans for every new job opening in the United States, and the number of "chronically unemployed" is absolutely soaring. There simply are not nearly enough jobs for everyone.

Many of those who are able to get jobs are finding that they are making less money than they used to. In fact, an increasingly large percentage of Americans are working at low wage retail and service jobs.

But you can't raise a family on what you make flipping burgers at McDonald's or on what you bring in from greeting customers down at the local Wal-Mart.

The truth is that the middle class in America is dying -- and once it is gone it will be incredibly difficult to rebuild.

[Scanner]

Science lets you fly to the moon...
Religion lets you fly into buildings...

Great tagline Roger!   

[fstsix]

Walkure, The problem is we must run a more efficient Government, We have no idea what is coming as far as additional taxation from the Not health care bill, Not even Polosi knows what is in it? That can't be good! More laws and regulation for small business will strangle any hope of a recovery ever from the private sector, the public Unions (Not to be confused with Private) Have retirement packages that are bankrupting this country, this needs to be addressed, too many sweet deals are not sustainable, I will finish and say don't ever underestimate the will of man when his freedom is compromised. 1.5 million came to DC to show their concern for the sake of this country, We have been silent too long as conservatives, and people from all over this world want Our Lifestyle our freedom....they don't come here for just the weather, We can bring the corp tax down in our state and it will bring business on the local level back, it can be done @ the Federal level also....but i must contend that when something as the Federal Gov gets this large i can certainly see the fighting to protect their Bread basket...when our Bread basket is threatened and we get hungry enough it will be a sad day if the stroke of a pen will not turn this country around. Also it's been 4 years with the stronghold of the Democrats in power ! (Hows that working for US So Far?) Congress controls this country not the pawn they call President  Not Bush Or Obama. BTW page (1) Michael k (AZ) already posted your cut and paste, we have to read the Health care bill before we sign it 

[BigAlOfMD]

It was caused by years of corrupt congress.
I'm sure is goes back to Repulican controlled houses but was most reciently lead by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid
And greatly attribuited to by  Barney Frank.

[big turkey]

Yes Big Al of Maryland those three names will be in history books on how not to run a Government.

Esp. Nancy and Barney, Harry is just a grandios idiot.

Stupid can't be fixed and poor old Harry is i am Afraid in that category.

Big AL

[musclehead]

Gee, I thought a chart that simple could be understood by most everyone...wrong.

You see, it says "number of jobs lost".  You might also notice that since Obama took office those losses get smaller.

It takes a special person to say it's because census workers get fired and rehired a lot...uh....when they get hired again it's a new job????  But then every time they get fired that would be a lost job right?  whew.

And because someone's "best bud" is out of work the national bureau of labor statistics is wrong? By the way, the repubs think your bud is a drug addict or he prefers unemployment to a job.  That's why they fight against extending unemployment benefits.

wow

No, lets go back and let the repubs in power again...yeah good times are a comin!  Who the hell do you think got us in this financial mess? Reagan tripled the national debt and then Bush and the repugs doubled it on top of that!!!!  

Just do a tiny bit of fact checking when the bozos start inventing crap or trying to re-write history.  It's a good thing.

Im sure the national stats on unemployment are right but locally some areas are worse off, last I checked with him the local unemployment was 14% 

[Robert]

Scanner I wasn't sure if you were serious in your original post I had to read a few more to see. I think this is what bothers me about most who voted or approved of Obama , that maybe more jobs were created but like everyone else more were lost and still wont even touch where we were. So basically you and others had nothing really of positive news to say so you take one line from Obamas presidency and tout it as a good thing. Instead of having truly encouraging things to say about this presidency. That means you are willing to take one truth and distort it as a sweeping good thing instead of a blip on the radar. You have been exemplifying excatlly what I personally dont like about anyone wishing to say how good Obama is, or that the liberal policies that he endorses are good for our country. I know that this happened with other presidents too but really there hasn't been anything good coming out of this presidency that could be considered to accumulate to a level that we could call good. Before you go saying that I must like Republicans, I dont to me and I think allot of others its like the frying pan or the fire, neither a really positive choice and I always looked at each presidency and how his face changed every time he was in office for a few months. It was pretty telling of the pile that each had to shovel up hill to stop a catastrophe from his presidency. I think that through the years we measure presidencies by who did the least damage to the country or the economy rather than someone who really cared about America and the people they are supposed to serve. The term fine Americans is widely used and really shows what our government thinks of us. This is what the Obama presidency was supposed to be about what he actually ran on. There are alot of conservatives on this board but that dosent mean that we/they aren't open to change. But I really dont think anyone likes the direction that we are heading now so whats so good about being liberal in what we do? What have you and others really been denied that causes so much upsetment about the conservative movement? Generally its back to getting control of the budget and the government, stopping some entitlement programs, no work no pay, stopping sex ed to 3 graders, hold up the family and support them instead of breaking it apart, making the father responsible for his family instead of the state, welfare needs to be fair instead of a give away. Congress taking the authority and responsibility it has to stop runaway judges and maybe even to get back to the US taking the treasury and printing of money back from the very people who charge us interest on our own money. I'm sorry Scanner your post is not worth responding to on its merits and if you hold up job creation of 2 million with the shadow of 4 million job loss then that's pretty sad. I also doubt that it will be permanent with the economy slowing down as it is buisness having a harder time and closing. Plus the governments only response tax tax tax. Let me say that I am kinda surprised at amount of posts that you received that even took the effort to give figures and such. It just isn't worth the effort that went into responding. I liked the read but a lost battle right from the beginning, you are so far off maybe because you dont see anyone in person that you can take a thought from your imagination and put it to this board and think its right to do. You know the slant of most on this board and just made a post to stir the pot just another example of a someone having nothing better to do and whats worse with confidence in a presidency offering a Scenario that nothing of  real substance was done. Wait till you have something of substance to offer to fly in the faces of conservatives then post that. This will truly be sweet revenge.

Lincoln Brewster - The Power Of Your Name (with Darlene Zschech)	powered by Aeva

http://

[Scanner]

Holy Crap, that was a a whole lot of words with absolutely nothing said....

Just about everything I think you were trying to say is factually wrong - not that it matters. You really can't understand a basic bar chart?  I'm not going to try and explain...not worth the time.

lmao...you spent the longest post on here responding to my thread about how it wasn't worth responding to..

Just keep your blinders on and keep on keepin on...

[Robert]

The Reason Why I Sing	powered by Aeva

[Valkahuna]

Holy Crap, that was a a whole lot of words with absolutely nothing said....

Just about everything I think you were trying to say is factually wrong - not that it matters. You really can't understand a basic bar chart?  I'm not going to try and explain...not worth the time.

lmao...you spent the longest post on here responding to my thread about how it wasn't worth responding to..

Just keep your blinders on and keep on keepin on...

You obviously did not read Robert's post with an open mind. But then again, if you really believe the crap that you are trying to get others to buy into, then whether or not you have a mind is the real question. Robert did a real good job of summing up the problems and the mood in this country, but all you read was where he told you that all your post was intended to do was to stir the pot. Nuff said! Great post, Robert!!!

[Snowflake]

Not to worry my friends...the end is near...GREED has taken over even the humblest of us.

[fat6man]

SCANNER...You must have been dropped on your head repeatedly as a child.
       
If    OBUMA   told you he could rid the world of all problems - You and people like you

You know the one that can't Rationalize or think for themselves  WOULD BELIEVE!!!

It's not just democrats or republicans - Corrupt politicians have caused the problems we have.

Although I must say O Lie To Me Buma has done more damage in the short time he's been in office
 
than any before him.

[Scanner]

SCANNER...You must have been dropped on your head repeatedly as a child.
       
If    OBUMA   told you he could rid the world of all problems - You and people like you

You know the one that can't Rationalize or think for themselves  WOULD BELIEVE!!!

It's not just democrats or republicans - Corrupt politicians have caused the problems we have.

Although I must say O Lie To Me Buma has done more damage in the short time he's been in office
 
than any before him.

Really? "more damage in the short time he's been in office than any before him".

Could you list three specific things and the "damage" that resulted?  Just three...

Or are you just talking thru your a$$?

[Daniel Meyer]

Lots of jobs have been lost.

I'm sure there are lots of jobs being created.

But a job is not a job is not a job.

Now, did'ya'all want fries with that?

[stude31]

Scanner,

I found you your answer for you.

Let's start HERE, hope this shines some light for you Scanner 


I call it as I see it!   

[Scanner]

Wow Stude, I underestimated your    by quite a bit.

Did you post that because you expect the crowds to stand up cheering for that profound input? Or are you just trying to be somebody so you had to stand up in the back row of the peanut gallery and shout out something incredibly stupid...again? 

[Scanner]

So, to wrap this thread up for me, I originally posted a very simple bar chart showing that the rate of job loss nationally was reversing since Obama took office. Just plain fact.

And, as I expected, the usual suspects twisted themselves in to knots trying to ignore, distort, misrepresent, or lie about the facts.  Hell, you'd think they work for FOX.

They tried to continually insult me because I had the audacity to post a thread that didn't conform to their "views".  Guess what - reality doesn't fit in their framework.

So onto the next threads, where we get another crapload of wingnuttery from the 4 or 5 who pollute the board with bizzaro proclamations and zero content...carry on

[fat6man]

The central point of Barack Obama’s economic plan is to tax the middle and upper class in order to give money to the poor. Of course, this is nothing more than the core philosophy of the welfare state. It is also the core principle of socialism.
How about a health care plan that will break the back of the american working men and women.
Should America expect a Commander In Chief to control our borders and illegal immigration problem?
Vast majority say he should.

[Scanner]

Actually, he cut taxes for the middle class - not that the facts matter.  As for welfare and the winger favorite word, socialism, nope, it's called the progressive income tax and it always has been.

Control the borders?  Real easy.  Have the states enforce their laws against hiring illegal immigrants.  Quadruple the penalties on employers. Put them in prison. Problem fixed.  All the other crap is just political grandstanding.

[Chrisj CMA]

Control the borders?  Real easy.  Have the states enforce their laws against hiring illegal immigrants. 

You and I agree on this.  There wouldnt even be an illegal alien problem if we just enforced laws that already exist. States and Feds.  The problem is the Federal government "president" Obama has a policy of NON enforcement and will sue a state for violating the Federal policy.  They say its the Feds job to decide what laws to enforce, and if they decide to look the other way (which they are choosing to do just that) than no state can go against their policy of NON enforcement.  Thats why sanctuarary cities are not bothered by the Feds.....they are going right along with the federal policy of NON enforcement.  AND THEM ARE THE FACTS........

[Wingman]

Actually, he cut taxes for the middle class - not that the facts matter.  As for welfare and the winger favorite word, socialism, nope, it's called the progressive income tax and it always has been.

Next year (after the November election) employers will have one more item to declare on our W2, the amount spent on health insurance; we won't be taxed on this of course, the government just wants to be able to tally the total benefits received by the people that are still employed. I wonder why they want to know?

Then there is the "Value added" tax that keeps being tossed around. Every time something is improved or changed or refined, it would be taxed and the consumer gets to pick up the final tab for these products that are manufactured in the U.S. and taxed at multiple points. Just one more way to hide tax increases and make it harder to employ U.S. workers.

If you always wanted to be in the service industry, or work for the government, this is the the time for you!

[Robert]

No new taxes huh well let me ask hows your credit card interest since Obama came to office. Mine has increased say 8 to 9 percent how about yours. All packaged that the added fees from overdraft and such taken off and this is all after he had a meeting with all the banks and reported that he saved us those overdraft fees  

Also no help for those that lost their houses the banks take the house the bailout the insurance and throw you out then.

the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin which Soros owns quite a stake in and the oil is already under contract

WASHINGTON (AP) - One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.

The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.

This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich.

President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000.

$338 billion - Bush tax cuts expire
$179 billlion - eliminate itemized deduction
$118 billion - capital gains tax hike

Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) Businesses:

$17 billion - Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion - tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion - codify "economic substance doctrine"
$61 billion - repeal LIFO
$210 billion - international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion - information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion - excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion - repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million - repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
$49 million - repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
$13 billion - repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion - increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million - eliminate advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years

Democrats Have Increased Taxes by $670 Billion and Counting…
List Includes 14 Tax Hikes Totaling Over $316 Billion on Middle Class Families
April 14, 2010
Since January of 2009, President Obama and Congressional Democrats have enacted into law gross tax increases totaling more
than $670 billion, or more than $2,100 for every man, woman and child in the United States. The list of tax increases includes at
least 14 violations of the President’s pledge not to raise taxes on Americans earning less than $200,000 for singles and $250,000
http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/DemTaxIncreases1.pdf

Stealth IRS changes mean millions of new tax forms Bush/Pelosi can be thanked for this
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The massive expansion of requirements  for businesses to file 1099 tax forms that was hidden in the 2,409-page health reform bill took many by surprise when it came to light last month. But it's just one piece of a years-long legislative stealth campaign to create ways for the federal government to track down unreported income.
The 1099 is a catch-all series of IRS documents used to report non-wage income from a variety of sources like contract work, dividends, earned interest and pension distributions. The new 1099-K aims to shine a light on a currently hard-to-track payment stream: credit cards. Starting in 2011, financial firms that process credit or debit card payments will be required to send their clients, and the IRS, an annual form documenting the year's transactions.

[Scanner]

Credit card interest? That's the banks trying to recoup what they lost in other fees. Why didn't you opt out of the higher rates? That's what I did, and then paid them off at the old rate.  The government can't fix stupid.

Tobacco taxes? yeah, that caused a lot of "damage" didn't it.

Housing foreclosures...again, the government can't fix stupid (or greed). 

As for the rest of your "damage", crap like letting the Bush millionaire tax breaks expire is just good policy. Look how much good the repub policies did the country - doubling the national debt and bringing on the deepest recession in history.

No thanks

[musclehead]

Actually, he cut taxes for the middle class - not that the facts matter.  As for welfare and the winger favorite word, socialism, nope, it's called the progressive income tax and it always has been.

Control the borders?  Real easy.  Have the states enforce their laws against hiring illegal immigrants.  Quadruple the penalties on employers. Put them in prison. Problem fixed.  All the other crap is just political grandstanding.

sorry scanner, taxing the top IS a tax on the middle and poor working class. what do you think the top tier  of tax payers do with a heavier tax burden? they might have 4 options 1 eat it (not likely they are in business to make money aka PROFIT) 2 cut dividends to share holders (assuming publicly held company, not popular if you want to stay at the helm) 3 roll it up as a cost of doing business and pass it along to the customer (consumer) 4 try to cut cost to compensate.  or maybe a combination but I for one have seen higher prices at the store for the food I eat on my truck. not every thing has gone up, but half of the items I buy have gone up

option number 3 is the one I'd take if I were in charge

[KerryNolan]

I gotta qoute Judge Judy 'don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining'  

millions on unemployment, millions more U6 under employed are going to disagree with those numbers.

my best bud out in Oregon has been unemployed for 2 years, locally 14% unemployed.

democrats are largely anti business, a president as radical as this one is UBER anti business.

don't worry though the jobs being created are in government/public sector.  the IRS in particular comes to mind.

No offense, but if I was unemployed for 2 years...I'd move. Last time I lost my job, I decided to be my own boss. I've thought about letting me go a few times, but I keep managing to just make the cut.
Kerry

[Charlie]

No new taxes huh well let me ask hows your credit card interest since Obama came to office. Mine has increased say 8 to 9 percent how about yours. All packaged that the added fees from overdraft and such taken off and this is all after he had a meeting with all the banks and reported that he saved us those overdraft fees  

Also no help for those that lost their houses the banks take the house the bailout the insurance and throw you out then.

the Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.

The U.S. is going to lend billions of dollars to Brazil's state-owned oil company, Petrobras, to finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin which Soros owns quite a stake in and the oil is already under contract

WASHINGTON (AP) - One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.

The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.

This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich.

President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000.

$338 billion - Bush tax cuts expire
$179 billlion - eliminate itemized deduction
$118 billion - capital gains tax hike

Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) Businesses:

$17 billion - Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion - tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion - codify "economic substance doctrine"
$61 billion - repeal LIFO
$210 billion - international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion - information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion - excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion - repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million - repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
$49 million - repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
$13 billion - repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion - increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million - eliminate advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years

Democrats Have Increased Taxes by $670 Billion and Counting…
List Includes 14 Tax Hikes Totaling Over $316 Billion on Middle Class Families
April 14, 2010
Since January of 2009, President Obama and Congressional Democrats have enacted into law gross tax increases totaling more
than $670 billion, or more than $2,100 for every man, woman and child in the United States. The list of tax increases includes at
least 14 violations of the President’s pledge not to raise taxes on Americans earning less than $200,000 for singles and $250,000
http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/DemTaxIncreases1.pdf

Stealth IRS changes mean millions of new tax forms Bush/Pelosi can be thanked for this
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The massive expansion of requirements  for businesses to file 1099 tax forms that was hidden in the 2,409-page health reform bill took many by surprise when it came to light last month. But it's just one piece of a years-long legislative stealth campaign to create ways for the federal government to track down unreported income.
The 1099 is a catch-all series of IRS documents used to report non-wage income from a variety of sources like contract work, dividends, earned interest and pension distributions. The new 1099-K aims to shine a light on a currently hard-to-track payment stream: credit cards. Starting in 2011, financial firms that process credit or debit card payments will be required to send their clients, and the IRS, an annual form documenting the year's transactions.

Are you seriously trying to blame the present administration for this?  The credit card interest rates are the result of the changes made to the bankruptcy laws passed during the last administration.

[RoadKill]

...

Control the borders?  Real easy.  Have the states enforce their laws against hiring illegal immigrants.  Quadruple the penalties on employers. Put them in prison. Problem fixed.  All the other crap is just political grandstanding.

WOW ! You really are a FREAKIN GENIUS! If we had billions of unemployed illegal immigrants we would be SO much better off ! That sure would stop all the drug smugglers and send them running south for the border too! And just the thought of all the overcrowded jails full of EX-business owners,That should really jump start the economy. Just think... with no more legitimate jobs they will all just pack it up and leave the Home Depot parking lots so American workers can become the dumbasses  looking for "under the table" "day laborer" pay. We can get rid of all the Mexican prostitutes too if we threaten not to mail out their W-2 forms before the filing deadline ! Why can't these Conservatives get their heads out and work with the simple solutions?

And we should all show our patriotism by OVER spending our way out of debt just like The Lib's have taught us!  

[Jeff K]

I gotta qoute Judge Judy 'don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining'  

millions on unemployment, millions more U6 under employed are going to disagree with those numbers.

my best bud out in Oregon has been unemployed for 2 years, locally 14% unemployed.

democrats are largely anti business, a president as radical as this one is UBER anti business.

don't worry though the jobs being created are in government/public sector.  the IRS in particular comes to mind.

No offense, but if I was unemployed for 2 years...I'd move. Last time I lost my job, I decided to be my own boss. I've thought about letting me go a few times, but I keep managing to just make the cut.
Kerry

+1  

 That is the ONLY reason I live in Florida, MONEY. No other reason to be here. Lots of places I'd rather be.

[Jeff K]

Control the borders?  Real easy.  Have the states enforce their laws against hiring illegal immigrants.  Quadruple the penalties on employers. Put them in prison. Problem fixed.  All the other crap is just political grandstanding.

With all the bitching about companies moving out of the country... Maybe some more regulation will help bring them back? Lets make business enforce our immigration laws and leave the government out of it, until it's time to collect the fines.
So it's OK to jail employers for hiring illegals, but it's not OK to jail the illegals? Hmm? 

[Scanner]

You want to jail illegals??????

Let's just use your taxes to do that ok?  You can house and feed them....

[RoadKill]

You want to jail illegals??????

Let's just use your taxes to do that ok?  You can house and feed them....

Nope! I want to bus our entire prison population to Mexico and shoot 'em if they try to return with out authorization. Cant just deport the Latin looking people..that would be RACIST ! Deport ALL criminals! 

[Scanner]

Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration.  More facts that won't matter to the wingers cause it doesn't fit their views.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790_pf.html

[Chrisj CMA]

Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration.  More facts that won't matter to the wingers cause it doesn't fit their views.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790_pf.html

only after he gives millions amnesty (future voters)  then he can start enforcing the law like he should already be doing........but that would upset Mexico more......cant have that

[RoadKill]

Deportation of illegal immigrants increases under Obama administration.  More facts that won't matter to the wingers cause it doesn't fit their views.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790_pf.html

Now THAT is a true WASTE of tax money! Drive them to the border and let them walk right back like a revolving door. Like trying to bail water on the Titanic...So that DUMBASS in washington bails water a little faster and you think he walks on it too!  That is  NOT "change we can believe in,it's just more of the same stupidity!"  Just proof he is dumber than Bush!