Raverez
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« on: July 25, 2010, 06:24:42 PM » |
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So, I had just started to go to the the store when the rear tire blew out. I had thought of changing to car tire anyway, but haven't done any real research on it. I know there's tons of discussion on the subject. So I just need to know a couple of things.
I know size 205\60-R16 is probably the size most use.
Are there any other sizes that will fit without any modifications?
To do the nut cage mod, do I need to remove the fender?
Do I need to modify the wheel bearings? I think I read something on this board about it.
And which tire?
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 06:56:31 PM » |
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A 205-60-16 is gonna be more expensive than a 205-55-16. Reason: more made in the smaller size, less in the larger.
You will be able to fit a 205- (55) (60) (65) - 16 without much to do except maybe the cage removal.
You don't need to remove the fender but taking the back half off is easy and makes the job easy too!
You do not need to do anything else to run a car tire.
You pick the tire!
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 07:13:19 AM » |
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This is from my research, I am no car tire expert. As you probably know, the 60 series is almost the same as the stock tire diamerter. The 65 will lower your RPM slightly for any given speed. Look for a rounder profile and sticker rubber.
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Raverez
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 08:53:23 AM » |
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I think going with the larger sidewall size, 205/65 r16 will raise the rpm.???
When I do the comparison on DML tire and wheel comparison it shows speedo error
for example :60 mph (96.54 kph) 56.34 mph (90.66 kph) -3.66 mph (-5.88 kph).
so if my rpms are 2800 for 60mph then to do 60mph with the larger tire I think I would have to increase my rpm. Just seems logical.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 09:43:59 AM » |
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Tire brand, is your choice.
I run the Good Year....
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 01:14:44 PM » |
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I think going with the larger sidewall size, 205/65 r16 will raise the rpm.???
Ya got that backwards, taller the tire, lower the RPM to maintain the same speed. Will also effect performance. Redline  |
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 02:18:11 PM » |
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+1 Redline. A larger tire will turn less times in a mile, thus lower rpms.
Think of a truck tire vs a small boat trailer tire. Which will turn more in a mile? The small one. Thus, the engine would be turning faster with the same gears.
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Raverez
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 02:53:16 PM » |
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Which Goodyear tire? I have a quote for a Goodyear Comfort tread 205\60 -16 for $125+tax.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2010, 03:05:55 PM » |
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Goodyear triple tread. General Altimax is good too. These are the two most popular tires, IMHO.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2010, 03:27:23 PM » |
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I've been running a 205/60/16 Good Year TT for the last 2K and love it. I lost no low speed handling and think the bike's more stable.  |
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2010, 05:55:27 PM » |
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Ok Thanks for the input all, still have lots to learn.
Probably can start by learning how to input the info in that comparison chart properly.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2010, 09:52:03 PM » |
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I just sorted out some last week and Had been running 205-55-16 good year Eagle F1 could of got a couple more mo. out of it but Due to a bearing failure I did it now that same tire is just abount nonexistant now and tire improvements are always being made. That was my 3rd car tire. I have not considered the tripple tred, Cutter from Texas told me he started running a yokohama AVID ENVigor 205-60-16 & is Likin it, it has better round edges, I did not get a chance to see it on his bike but I did the home work. My top 3 picks were a Michilin Pirelli yokohama. Michilin was thrown out because they woul not give a thread width (not listed or over the phone). I then pitched the Pirelli over Looks & thread width. Here is things to consider and Tirerack .com is a good sorse of info. QTOG rating dont buy a tire without it, a tire rating of 300 or less is worthless because it will wear off to fast and a rating of 700 my not hold the road, That rating tells you how sticky that tire is and how fast it will wear. You want a goodlooking tire. You want also to have a tire with a narrow thread width, and the reason is that When you get in the road section where it may be worn some your bike will have a tendincy to pitch a little side to side and this is where you will benifit by a narrower tire as it will will have less tendency to pitch. It will also mean a big difference on gravel. 1/4" difference in width means a lot. I put the Yokohama V rated on only 300m. ago But I can tell you it is one sweet tire. Another thing to know is that the milage advertised say for example 60,m. you will never get that on tyhe bike. Also get a tire rated for over 130m.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2010, 06:39:13 AM » |
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25,000 on a Good Year TT and I am very happy with it. CT on the valk is a personal choice, my valk will never see another motorcycle tire but each bike and each person is different.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2010, 07:41:49 PM » |
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Yokahama AVID Envigor. 205\60-16.
Now if I can only put it back together properly...
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2010, 07:50:02 PM » |
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That's what I'm running and very happy with it. I did do the nut cage and I have an I/S. Have plenty of clearance on the drive shaft. running 45 psi. Enjoy GregK..... how did ya not see my tire? Must of been all that rain we rode in!  Last sunday was better weather. Enjoyed the ride |
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2010, 09:48:41 PM » |
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Although I'm not totally finished, the clearance with the drive shaft looks VERY close. This is my first time changing tires so I'm hoping I do it right.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2010, 05:56:51 AM » |
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Check your other thread. I posted in that one about tire/swingarm clearances.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2010, 12:27:37 PM » |
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Look up the procedure for changing tires in ShopTalk. Print it off and follow the procedure to the letter. Especially the torque figures and tightenen the 4 nuts on the drive shaft cover last...JTL
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2010, 05:34:53 PM » |
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Cutter, sorry dude did't see your tire not even Sun when we rode cause mine was the same then.Cant say I've ever gone around and looked to see what anyone else had for tires( I'll leave out the funny). I listened to what you said and took it into consideration. It was the tire spec's and looking at tire profiles that did the real selling. Raverez, Be sure to balance that tire, there is a post here some where. clearence on drive shaft will be fine. I dont think you'll have any problen but you must check to see if you'll have an nuts chafing the tire towards the top of the fender one each side. I believe their is a maint art. on that also. I have an I/s & done the mod. the 1st. time around. Enjoy that tire.
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2010, 05:09:44 AM » |
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Cutter, it sounds like you like the darkside. I've been DS for years now and you may see the center patch on your tire wear prematurely with that much air. I've found for me 36-38 psi works best overall. JMHO catch you later.
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Raverez
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2010, 04:50:19 PM » |
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Did the nut cage thing. I've ridden about 150 miles and do not see any scuff marks from anything rubbing on the tires. So, I guess it good to go. Had a local shop mount it on the wheel and balance it for me. Again thanks for all the input.
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2010, 07:05:43 PM » |
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Gotta watch them guys balanceing the tire, I caught em when they balanced my 2nd tire sticking a screwdriver in the axle an balanceing it that way. I dont know how the boys do it on the race track but I didn't like it one bit and never been back to even have a tire put on. Their is a Tech article on how to do it but rather than build a stand I just use the axle bolt and set it on jack stands. Its a fun project and my life on the line so I'd rather trust my self. Along with this do not through your old weights away If you dont need them you might in the future.
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