Do you agree? (Not Valk Related)(Not a Poll)

[Ice]

I got this from my wife who is German and immigrated to the US (LEGALLY) with me while I was a soldier, she has done the top 7 and stands up for her rights. So read below and if it is too offensive I apologize ahead of time but.........

Great grandfather watched as his friends died in WW I

      
      My father watched as his friends died in WW II.

      
      I WATCHED AS MY FRIENDS DIED IN KOREA .

   
   MY SON watched as HIS friends died in Vietnam .

   AND WE’RE ALL WATCHING OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN DIE IN THE TWO WARS BEING FOUGHT AS THIS MESSAGE MAKES IT’S WAY AROUND THE NET.

   
   None of them died for the Mexican Flag. Everyone died for the American flag.
   
   Texas high school students raised a Mexican flag on a school flag pole, other students took it down. Guess who was expelled...the students who took it down.
   
   California high school students were sent home on Cinco de Mayo, because they wore T-shirts with the American flag printed on them.
   
   Enough is enough.
   
   This message needs to be viewed by every American; and every American needs to stand up for America.
   
   We've bent over to appease the America-haters long enough. I'm taking a stand.
   
   I'm standing up because the hundreds of thousands who died fighting in wars for this country, and for the American flag.
   
   If you agree, stand up with me. If you disagree, please let me know.
   
   And shame on anyone who tries to make this message racist.
   
   AMERICANS, stop giving away Your RIGHTS!
   
   Let me make this clear! THIS IS MY COUNTRY!
   
   This statement DOES NOT mean I'm against immigration!
   
   YOU ARE WELCOME HERE, IN MY COUNTRY, welcome to come legally:
   
   1. Get a sponsor!
   
   2. Learn the LANGUAGE, as immigrants have in the past!
   
   3. Live by OUR rules!
   
   4. Get a job!
   
   5. Pay YOUR Taxes!
   
   6. No Social Security until you have earned it and paid for it !
   
   7. NOW find a place to lay your head!

      If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone, then YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
   
   We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards not to offend anyone.
   
   Only AMERICANS seems to care when American Citizens are being offended!
   
   WAKE UP America !!!
   
   If you agree, do Pass this on. If not, just DELETE, and I'm NOT sorry if I offended you.

[ricoman]

I wholeheartedly agree.
The BS has got to stop.
Sadly, too many have no idea that our rights are disappearing.

[Chrisj CMA]

Hey Ice (what a perfect handle for this thread) I totally agree with you (or this message) but, its not the American people that need convincing.  The overwhelming majority of Americans want the pandering to illegals (sanctuarary practices) to be stopped........free services to those that shouldnt be here to be stopped.......the border secured and people sent home if they are here illegally.  Its simple, enforce current law and there will soon be no problems.

The hold up is (now with the AZ ruling its clear), that ONLY the federal Government can enforce immigration law, BUT they (Feds) will not enforce it and will stop any state government that tries.

Its frustrating.....its not a partisan thing...the last administration was no better, but they are not in charge any more.  This Administration has spent more money on the border, on enforcement, but it stops with the spending of the money, no concern for is that money actually accomplishing anything...the wall is not finished, the border patrol is still under staffed, the law still works in favor of the illegal most of the time, and the only thing the federal government wants to do is provide amnesty, social services and anything they can think of to keep the mexican government happy, they even let the mexican president scold us on the house floor, and American sitting lawmakers applauded when he condemned a bill (AZ BILL) that none of them had even bothered to read.

Its our own government that is shamefully responsible for the mess....I agree with you but its "preaching to the chior"

[doubletee]

Its frustrating.....its not a partisan thing...

Its our own government that is shamefully responsible for the mess....I agree with you but its "preaching to the chior"

+1

[Ice]

Hey Ice (what a perfect handle for this thread) I totally agree with you (or this message) but, its not the American people that need convincing.  The overwhelming majority of Americans want the pandering to illegals (sanctuarary practices) to be stopped........free services to those that shouldnt be here to be stopped.......the border secured and people sent home if they are here illegally.  Its simple, enforce current law and there will soon be no problems.

The hold up is (now with the AZ ruling its clear), that ONLY the federal Government can enforce immigration law, BUT they (Feds) will not enforce it and will stop any state government that tries.

Its frustrating.....its not a partisan thing...the last administration was no better, but they are not in charge any more.  This Administration has spent more money on the border, on enforcement, but it stops with the spending of the money, no concern for is that money actually accomplishing anything...the wall is not finished, the border patrol is still under staffed, the law still works in favor of the illegal most of the time, and the only thing the federal government wants to do is provide amnesty, social services and anything they can think of to keep the mexican government happy, they even let the mexican president scold us on the house floor, and American sitting lawmakers applauded when he condemned a bill (AZ BILL) that none of them had even bothered to read.

Its our own government that is shamefully responsible for the mess....I agree with you but its "preaching to the chior"

Chris,

this was never intended to be political or anything, I just thought it was interesting how my wife immigrated here many years ago, and every ten years is put through hell to update her green card, is still is willing to take on the challange of illegal immigration and sent me this message. I think it is a great point, I am not the author (wish I were) but I thought I should be the messenger. I just loved the fact that my great wife has the balls (so to speak) to stand up for the rights that she has to fight for as a legal immigrant.
Just a quick note, when her green card was about to expire way back when, and I called INS to get the 411 on how to re-new it , I was told if she failed to do so they would deport her. WTF, she married to an American Vet and they will deport her, but not a bus load of illegals. The bus load was stopped by a fellow officer and he requested ICE and they refussed telling him to just let them go after obtaining their names.
So I was just giving kudos to my wife. Never intended to preach....
I know most agree, as I said I thought it wa avalid point and that from an Alien (legal)

[valkMJ]

Just a quick note, when her green card was about to expire way back when, and I called INS to get the 411 on how to re-new it , I was told if she failed to do so they would deport her. WTF, she married to an American Vet and they will deport her, but not a bus load of illegals. The bus load was stopped by a fellow officer and he requested ICE and they refussed telling him to just let them go after obtaining their names.

Oh, the horror stories I've heard about the immigration process...

You know, maybe if our immigration system wasn't such a CF, we wouldn't have so many illegals out there.   

[JimC]

This has been a sore spot for me for years, watch the following video, it's an eye opener.

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Then join
www.numbersusa.com

They are one of the only reasons we have not had a blanket amnesty jammed down our throats, they are responsible for millions of faxes to our politicians on this subject.

I sure hope this does not fit under the political bashing ban, in my mind it should not because this is not directed at any particular person or party.

ICE, your wife has a reason to be angry!

Jim

[98valk]

agree!!

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/07/21/odd-pick-for-immigration-enforcement-why-harold-hurtt-is-incompatible/


If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.
Thomas Jefferson


I see in the future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few and the Republic is destroyed. - Abraham Lincoln letter to Col. William F. Elkins... Nov. 21, 1864

The people will save their government, if the government itself will allow them.
Abraham Lincoln

We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
Abraham Lincoln

"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough horsepower."
 
- Mark Donohue

[JimL]

Sehr richtig!

[Skinhead]

I agree, my wife immigrated legally and is a naturalized citizen.  The politicians need to stop pandering, the government needs to secure our borders, stop spending, and stay out of our lives. 

[..]

Hey Ice (what a perfect handle for this thread) I totally agree with you (or this message) but, its not the American people that need convincing.  The overwhelming majority of Americans want the pandering to illegals (sanctuarary practices) to be stopped........free services to those that shouldnt be here to be stopped.......the border secured and people sent home if they are here illegally.  Its simple, enforce current law and there will soon be no problems.

The hold up is (now with the AZ ruling its clear), that ONLY the federal Government can enforce immigration law, BUT they (Feds) will not enforce it and will stop any state government that tries.

Its frustrating.....its not a partisan thing...the last administration was no better, but they are not in charge any more.  This Administration has spent more money on the border, on enforcement, but it stops with the spending of the money, no concern for is that money actually accomplishing anything...the wall is not finished, the border patrol is still under staffed, the law still works in favor of the illegal most of the time, and the only thing the federal government wants to do is provide amnesty, social services and anything they can think of to keep the mexican government happy, they even let the mexican president scold us on the house floor, and American sitting lawmakers applauded when he condemned a bill (AZ BILL) that none of them had even bothered to read.

Its our own government that is shamefully responsible for the mess....I agree with you but its "preaching to the chior"

Chris,

this was never intended to be political or anything, I just thought it was interesting how my wife immigrated here many years ago, and every ten years is put through hell to update her green card, is still is willing to take on the challange of illegal immigration and sent me this message. I think it is a great point, I am not the author (wish I were) but I thought I should be the messenger. I just loved the fact that my great wife has the balls (so to speak) to stand up for the rights that she has to fight for as a legal immigrant.
Just a quick note, when her green card was about to expire way back when, and I called INS to get the 411 on how to re-new it , I was told if she failed to do so they would deport her. WTF, she married to an American Vet and they will deport her, but not a bus load of illegals. The bus load was stopped by a fellow officer and he requested ICE and they refussed telling him to just let them go after obtaining their names.
So I was just giving kudos to my wife. Never intended to preach....
I know most agree, as I said I thought it wa avalid point and that from an Alien (legal)

Why Oh why hasn't she applied for citizenship??

[Ice]

Hey Ice (what a perfect handle for this thread) I totally agree with you (or this message) but, its not the American people that need convincing.  The overwhelming majority of Americans want the pandering to illegals (sanctuarary practices) to be stopped........free services to those that shouldnt be here to be stopped.......the border secured and people sent home if they are here illegally.  Its simple, enforce current law and there will soon be no problems.

The hold up is (now with the AZ ruling its clear), that ONLY the federal Government can enforce immigration law, BUT they (Feds) will not enforce it and will stop any state government that tries.

Its frustrating.....its not a partisan thing...the last administration was no better, but they are not in charge any more.  This Administration has spent more money on the border, on enforcement, but it stops with the spending of the money, no concern for is that money actually accomplishing anything...the wall is not finished, the border patrol is still under staffed, the law still works in favor of the illegal most of the time, and the only thing the federal government wants to do is provide amnesty, social services and anything they can think of to keep the mexican government happy, they even let the mexican president scold us on the house floor, and American sitting lawmakers applauded when he condemned a bill (AZ BILL) that none of them had even bothered to read.

Its our own government that is shamefully responsible for the mess....I agree with you but its "preaching to the chior"

Chris,

this was never intended to be political or anything, I just thought it was interesting how my wife immigrated here many years ago, and every ten years is put through hell to update her green card, is still is willing to take on the challange of illegal immigration and sent me this message. I think it is a great point, I am not the author (wish I were) but I thought I should be the messenger. I just loved the fact that my great wife has the balls (so to speak) to stand up for the rights that she has to fight for as a legal immigrant.
Just a quick note, when her green card was about to expire way back when, and I called INS to get the 411 on how to re-new it , I was told if she failed to do so they would deport her. WTF, she married to an American Vet and they will deport her, but not a bus load of illegals. The bus load was stopped by a fellow officer and he requested ICE and they refussed telling him to just let them go after obtaining their names.
So I was just giving kudos to my wife. Never intended to preach....
I know most agree, as I said I thought it wa avalid point and that from an Alien (legal)

Why Oh why hasn't she applied for citizenship??

To answer that question, she like being a German citizen, but because of me she lives here, she enjoys all the things that make the USA what it is, but still like the right to have a choice. The question I ask is why should she apply to be a citizen if she is here legally and with all the rights afforded to her by being my wife? She has done nothing wrong in being here as a immigrant, she just gets treated that way.

[Jabba]

I don't know that she NEEDS to be an American citizen. 

I like the thought that people that intend to stay here indefinitely should take a path to citizenship.  But I am not committed enough to that thought to negate a permanent resident alien status considering she's married to a Citizen.

I'd like to see citizenship as a requirement for immigration though, with perhaps a loophole for situations like yours.

Jabba

[doubletee]

Just a quick note, when her green card was about to expire way back when, and I called INS to get the 411 on how to re-new it , I was told if she failed to do so they would deport her. WTF, she married to an American Vet and they will deport her, but not a bus load of illegals. The bus load was stopped by a fellow officer and he requested ICE and they refussed telling him to just let them go after obtaining their names.

Oh, the horror stories I've heard about the immigration process...

You know, maybe if our immigration system wasn't such a CF, we wouldn't have so many illegals out there.   

My stupid opinion:
1) Somehow, I doubt that a CF immigration system is the reason for the majority of illegals entering the country
2) Even if it is a CF (I have no idea if it is or isn't), it doesn't excuse one from breaking the laws of this country.

[Robert]

Its not political and hit the cord of real importance and just like you all are saying. I know of at least 4 people educated and going through the system but much to our dismay cant seem to get in. Or at least the government is running them around the hoops to not work while they are going through the process and they have been here 3 years good jobs good family already paid taxes on what they have earned and want to just be a good citizen. They even have companies that are willing to sponsor them to become citizens but it seems all we can do is get illegals. There was story done recently about this and found that most well trained where heading to other countries even Canada because they are welcoming them with open arms.

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[..]

Hey Ice (what a perfect handle for this thread) I totally agree with you (or this message) but, its not the American people that need convincing.  The overwhelming majority of Americans want the pandering to illegals (sanctuarary practices) to be stopped........free services to those that shouldnt be here to be stopped.......the border secured and people sent home if they are here illegally.  Its simple, enforce current law and there will soon be no problems.

The hold up is (now with the AZ ruling its clear), that ONLY the federal Government can enforce immigration law, BUT they (Feds) will not enforce it and will stop any state government that tries.

Its frustrating.....its not a partisan thing...the last administration was no better, but they are not in charge any more.  This Administration has spent more money on the border, on enforcement, but it stops with the spending of the money, no concern for is that money actually accomplishing anything...the wall is not finished, the border patrol is still under staffed, the law still works in favor of the illegal most of the time, and the only thing the federal government wants to do is provide amnesty, social services and anything they can think of to keep the mexican government happy, they even let the mexican president scold us on the house floor, and American sitting lawmakers applauded when he condemned a bill (AZ BILL) that none of them had even bothered to read.

Its our own government that is shamefully responsible for the mess....I agree with you but its "preaching to the chior"

Chris,

this was never intended to be political or anything, I just thought it was interesting how my wife immigrated here many years ago, and every ten years is put through hell to update her green card, is still is willing to take on the challange of illegal immigration and sent me this message. I think it is a great point, I am not the author (wish I were) but I thought I should be the messenger. I just loved the fact that my great wife has the balls (so to speak) to stand up for the rights that she has to fight for as a legal immigrant.
Just a quick note, when her green card was about to expire way back when, and I called INS to get the 411 on how to re-new it , I was told if she failed to do so they would deport her. WTF, she married to an American Vet and they will deport her, but not a bus load of illegals. The bus load was stopped by a fellow officer and he requested ICE and they refussed telling him to just let them go after obtaining their names.
So I was just giving kudos to my wife. Never intended to preach....
I know most agree, as I said I thought it wa avalid point and that from an Alien (legal)

Why Oh why hasn't she applied for citizenship??

To answer that question, she like being a German citizen, but because of me she lives here, she enjoys all the things that make the USA what it is, but still like the right to have a choice. The question I ask is why should she apply to be a citizen if she is here legally and with all the rights afforded to her by being my wife? She has done nothing wrong in being here as a immigrant, she just gets treated that way.

The US Government can not take away her German passport.

[98valk]

Why Arizona 's Made It's Decision on Immigration

                        
                        
                        
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
                        
                        
Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.
                        
                        
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
                        
                        
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
                              
Verify at:http://tinyurl.com/zob77
                        
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
   
Verify at:http://www.cis...org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

                           
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
                           
                           
Verify at:http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
                              
                           
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
                           
                           
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
                           
                           
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
                           
Verify athttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
                           
                           
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
                           
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
                           

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
                           
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
                           
                           
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
                           
Verify at:http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
                     
                     
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .
                     
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
                     
                     
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
                     
Verify at: Homeland Security Report:h <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht> ttp://tinyurl.com/t9sht <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht>  < " href="http://tinyurl.com/t9sht%3E" rel=nofollow target=_blank>" target=_blankhttp://tinyurl.com/t9sht> <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht> 
                  
                  
12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
                  
Verify at:http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

                  
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.
                  
Verify at:http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm >

                  
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes are Committed by Illegal Immigrants In TheUnited States .'
                  
Verify at: http: //www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
                  
                  
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
                  
Note: about 3 times what Iraq costs.
                  
Are we THAT stupid?
                  
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message.
                  
                  
If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every elected representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

[G-Man]

By negating and disallowing the measures of the Arizona illegal immigration law, the federal judge broadcasted to the world that anyone can come hear illegally, committ crimes (or not), and you will not be questioned as to whether you are hear illegally (or not).  You can be asked for a driver's license when pulled over for speeding, and if you can't produce one, you can't be questioned.  You can get drunk and beat up your girlfriend, and when asked by the police for ID, and you can't produce anything, you can't be questioned.  You can produce a phoney social security number when applying for jobs, and if shown to be fraudulant, you can't be questioned.

And.....there are people in places of authority who have no problem with any of this.  These are the people who are the root cause of all of this.  They are the politicians and employers who are in it for greed.  They are the true exploiters of these people and this country.

C'MON NOVEMBER !

[Bobbo]

By negating and disallowing the measures of the Arizona illegal immigration law, the federal judge broadcasted to the world that anyone can come hear illegally, committ crimes (or not), and you will not be questioned as to whether you are hear illegally (or not).  You can be asked for a driver's license when pulled over for speeding, and if you can't produce one, you can't be questioned.  You can get drunk and beat up your girlfriend, and when asked by the police for ID, and you can't produce anything, you can't be questioned.  You can produce a phoney social security number when applying for jobs, and if shown to be fraudulant, you can't be questioned.

And.....there are people in places of authority who have no problem with any of this.  These are the people who are the root cause of all of this.  They are the politicians and employers who are in it for greed.  They are the true exploiters of these people and this country.

C'MON NOVEMBER !

Your statements are misleading.  If a suspected illegal is stopped by police, they can still refer them to INS just as before.  They can question them about immigration status, just as before under the Miranda Law.  They just can’t take action to arrest them only on a suspected immigration violation.

I didn’t agree with the part of the law that allows police to arrest someone without a warrant or any evidence of a crime being committed.  See the proposed amendment to Sec. 2. Title 11, chapter 7, article 8, paragraph E of the Arizona Revised Statutes.

Someone once said “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”.  That might apply to the failed Arizona law.

[doubletee]

By negating and disallowing the measures of the Arizona illegal immigration law, the federal judge broadcasted to the world that anyone can come hear illegally, committ crimes (or not), and you will not be questioned as to whether you are hear illegally (or not).  You can be asked for a driver's license when pulled over for speeding, and if you can't produce one, you can't be questioned.  You can get drunk and beat up your girlfriend, and when asked by the police for ID, and you can't produce anything, you can't be questioned.  You can produce a phoney social security number when applying for jobs, and if shown to be fraudulant, you can't be questioned.

And.....there are people in places of authority who have no problem with any of this.  These are the people who are the root cause of all of this.  They are the politicians and employers who are in it for greed.  They are the true exploiters of these people and this country.

C'MON NOVEMBER !

Your statements are misleading.  If a suspected illegal is stopped by police, they can still refer them to INS just as before.  They can question them about immigration status, just as before under the Miranda Law.  They just can’t take action to arrest them only on a suspected immigration violation.

I didn’t agree with the part of the law that allows police to arrest someone without a warrant or any evidence of a crime being committed.  See the proposed amendment to Sec. 2. Title 11, chapter 7, article 8, paragraph E of the Arizona Revised Statutes.

Someone once said “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”.  That might apply to the failed Arizona law.

E. A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WITHOUT A WARRANT, MAY ARREST A PERSON IF THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAS COMMITTED ANY PUBLIC OFFENSE THAT MAKES THE PERSON REMOVABLE FROM THE UNITED STATES.

Okay, I read it. Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't people arrested every day because of "suspicion" of them committing a crime? (that seems to be the wording newspapers and other news reporters use) I'm sure there's legal precedent that differentiates "probable cause" from "suspicion," but my lay mind views them as synonymous.

[Chrisj CMA]

I didn’t agree with the part of the law that allows police to arrest someone without a warrant or any evidence of a crime being committed.

I guess that was one of the basic points.  If you are here illegally you already have broken the law, there should not be a need for a second/subsequent law to be broken.  What part of ILLEGAL in illegal alien does people against doing anything about it not understand is my question?

[3fan4life]

I guess that was one of the basic points.  If you are here illegally you already have broken the law, there should not be a need for a second/subsequent law to be broken.  What part of ILLEGAL in illegal alien does people against doing anything about it not understand is my question?

+1 

I have been saying for years now to REBUBS and DEMS.............

WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ??      

[JimC]

Gman,
the local cops can still do their jobs, arresting for drunk driving, domestic situations, robbery etc. what they are saying is that they can not lock them up only for the illegal status. ICE will not come and pick them up. They are TOO busy to do their jobs!

Believe it or not, this has been going on for 25 years or more. I dealt with illegals as a cop in Wisconsin in the 80's, and ICE would refuse to come the 30 miles outside of Milwaukee to get them, they told us to get their names and let them go.

You will notice that the people that want to pass blanket amnesty have dropped the word illegal from their quest. They now refer to the bill as "the immigration bill" hoping that it will sneak past the main stream.

Jim

[Ice]

You know when I started this thread, my intentions were not to start a Sh.t storm  of controversy, I thought it was cool that my wife (the alien, or is that offensive nowadays?) feels like many (most) Americans about illegals in our country, and the fact that they are afforded more rights than the LEGAL immigrants. Nothing more. Sorry if you guys got carried away 

[RainMaker]

You know when I started this thread, my intentions were not to start a Sh.t storm  of controversy, I thought it was cool that my wife (the alien, or is that offensive nowadays?) feels like many (most) Americans about illegals in our country, and the fact that they are afforded more rights than the LEGAL immigrants. Nothing more. Sorry if you guys got carried away 

I feel your pain. 

Anything you post has the potential to become a sh.t storm. of controversy on this board.  Anything.

Even this post will probably become one.

[czuch]

My Dad was a teacher. High school during the day, night school in the evening.
One of his classes was Citizenship. From 1963 to 1988 he had over 5000 naturalized citizens to his,and their, credit. DONT tell me theres no other way. The water stations are a ruse. I dont believe they will ever stop as long as the carrot is out there. We still have a chance.