IS fairing problems

[Fritz]

I just picked up a 99 IS. I wanted to remove the inner fairing panels to change the windshield. The screws were so tigth that a few of the threaded inserts broke lose from the outer fairnig. I have a few ideas on how to fix them, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that this has happen too. Looking for more ideas or fixes.

Thanks in advance for the help

Fritz

[Joe Hummer]

I use super glue to glue them back in before putting the inner panel back on.  If you haven't removed the panel yet, just slide your hand or a non-metallic shim as close to the spinning bolt and apply a little pressure while spinning it.  It will come out. 

Joe

[roboto65]

This is a VERY common thing I think I have done all of mine heck anyone with an IS has done it.  I used Gorilla glue to put mine back in have not had anymore problems from them !!!

[Baloo]

I think Roboto65 is correct. Probably every IS owner had to do it. I use JB Weld with a tad of grease on the screw threads. Put the screw in the insert with JB Weld on it and drive it back in the fairing hole. Let stand and its fixed. The grease keeps the JB Weld from sticking to the screw.

[old grouch]

And... after you have them glued in, put some Anti-Sieze on the screws so it doesn't happen again.  Stan

[BradValk48237]

+1 on the JB weld here....

B

[Six Guns]

I use JB Weld with a tad of grease on the screw threads.

Are there different types of JB Weld? If so, which one (JB Weld) do you use on the inserts to secure them to the fairing?  TIA...     

[Fritz]

Thanks Everyone

[HayHauler]

Go here and read up.

http://www.stolaf.edu/people/marshall/fairing.htm

 I did most of what this guy has done to his and mine is church mouse quiet now.  I ordered a few of the brass threaded inserts and replaced mine with new ones.
I am with the others, JB Weld and anti-sieze on the screws.  I even put small o-rings on the outside of the screw heads to absolutely stop the rattling once and for all.

P.S.  While you're in there, replace those headlights with the Sylvania Silver Stars....
 

Of course, YMMV 

Hay 
Jimmyt

[F6Viking]

I too have experienced the brass insert curse. I have a 99 IS I bought new in 03-99. Earlier this summer I asked for help in getting the part # for some new brass inserts because I have re-glued a few of mine over the years a few too many times. I bought 6 new brass inserts ($2.50 ea) and replaced the 2 that were too damaged to re-use and glued a couple of old ones back in and have a few to spare. Problem was, I had about half dozen loose when I was replacing the windshield

The more I thought about it, I couldn't help but think that was kind of steep for something that was just going to give me trouble again. So, I actually tried a couple of the plastic anchors used for concrete, not the drywall insert types. I got a pack of 25 - 1" #8 plastic anchors for less than a $1 at Menards. Picked up some screws with the small washers already on them at Ace for a few cents apiece. (You can actually get black or chrome). I just put a little super glue on when inserting the anchor, let it set up a while then trimmed off excess with wire side cutter, used the screw and works great. Just did a 2200+ mile, 8 state trip a couple of weeks ago and no problems, everything still tight.

I figured why chance the possibility of breaking one of the insert mounts or cracking the fairing trying to get the stupid inserts out when they spin. Believe me, I have had it happen enough that I know they aren't always as easy to get out as it may sound. With the plastic concrete inserts, as they wear out, they should be soft enough to use a drill to slowly drill/pull the old one out and put another in if needed.
Just my 2 cents worth.

PS I also did several of the suggestions in the link HayHauler just posted. It helped mine also.

[BudMan]

"Are there different types of JB Weld? If so, which one (JB Weld) do you use on the inserts to secure them to the fairing?"

I used "Quick" JB Weld.  I think it is just as strong as the normal one and fits my "I WANT IT NOW" personality.

[Baloo]

As Budman said, there are actually two kinds of JB Weld: The original and JB Quick. Both stuffs work the same way, but JB Quick set a lot faster than the regular. The last time I had to work on mine, I used the regular, just because that is what I happened to have under my hand at that time.

[Ricky-D]

If you look closely at those inserts you will find there is more to them than what you may recognize.

The inserts work more like a plastic drywall anchor if you know what those are!

Inside the brass insert is a wedge that when pushed to it's furthest by the screw, expands the insert in the hole to make it tight and secure.

If you are going to redo the hole I suggest you push the wedge back to the installation position before attempting to glue it back in the hole.

After all had dried or hardened, whichever the case, then gently turn screw back into the insert by itself so the expansion takes place again, thereby locking the insert more securely.

As everyone has said, be sure to use anti-seize to forestall having the screws lock up again.

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