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Author Topic: Possible rider death near Sturgis today  (Read 2418 times)
Titan
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« on: August 07, 2010, 07:06:54 PM »

This is hearsay... a friend of mine left SC Tuesday, on a Valk, headed for Sturgis. He called me this afternoon from somewhere just outside of Sturgis and said his group ran upon a traffic wreck where a bike was pinned beneath the wheels of an 18 wheeler. He said traffic was a mess right there at the time and they didn't see the rider but was told right after they passed the wreck that the rider didn't survive.

He said his group had been running around 75 and the big rig trucks were constantly blowing by them at speeds at least 85-90. He said the truck that hit the bike left a really long skid mark leading up to the wreck but it happened just before they reached the scene and they didn't witness it.

Perhaps someone here may be able to find more information about this. I sure hope it wasn't anyone from this group!
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musclehead
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 07:12:52 PM »

damn! my truck won't go that fast, but some of these drivers out here are real morons. I hate to spout off without knowing the details but we have about 10% of people driving trucks that I wouldn't give keys to a moped much less a 70' long 13 1/2 foot tall 80,000 lbs behmoth.

prayers to the family
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 07:19:09 PM »

a motorcycle wiped out today on I-84 west bound in Idaho around the 160 yard stick, don't know any details  
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 08:44:52 PM »




 I sure hope it wasn't anyone from this group!

Was it a Valkyrie or a Harley under dat big ole truck.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 08:51:30 PM »

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/news/state-and-regional/article_71a0460e-2fc6-508d-9fb0-907f0503745e.html

Is this it?

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2010, 02:31:31 AM »

damn! my truck won't go that fast, but some of these drivers out here are real morons. I hate to spout off without knowing the details but we have about 10% of people driving trucks that I wouldn't give keys to a moped much less a 70' long 13 1/2 foot tall 80,000 lbs behmoth.

prayers to the family

man your being kind...........there is a new fad with the truckers, they park in the center turn lanes to get coffee.

there is alot of them out there that need the rebar caps for thier fingertips so they dont damage thier brains when they pick thier noses.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2010, 05:12:37 AM »



OK, so a bike blows a rear tire and crashes.  I would assume putting the two stories together, it was right in front of a truck, the truck locks it up trying to avoid it, and you all are blaming the trucker for the wreck?

Get real.  Ask Smoking Joe.  You cannot stop on a dime. "Left long skid marks'.  He tried.

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2010, 05:28:00 AM »

its always the truckers fault............................. crazy2
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2010, 05:37:29 AM »

as a rider that holds a cdl class a licence  and tanker endorsement and hazmat endorsement i think most drivers use the same skills as we do when we ride our bikes  you must expect the unexpected at all times  no one in there right mind would runn 80 -90 in a big rig if they valve their job,, as the company  safety officer and having seen what  state of mind killing a person with a truck leaves the driver in i know these are sad events.  but the rider of the bike is the one that needed to check out his ride a bit better we as riders must make sure our rides are up to the trip before we turn the key on to go on a trip . i have took every rider i train and teach them to check the tires out each ride . i hate motorcycle tire they fail too often ans it just takes a small sharp point to put you down. bad things will happen but propper training can lesson the chances..  mike b  
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2010, 05:44:57 AM »

i was brought up on the 7 P's of life

Prior

Proper

Planning

Prevents
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Performance

and its a good rule to follow
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 07:29:55 AM »

When my friend called and told me about the wreck he described seeing the bike underneath the truck and a flurry of activity with emergency personnel trying to jack up the wheels of the truck.

He said he did not see the rider.

I haven't talked to him anymore since then. He may have been high on exhaust fumes and imagined the whole thing!

Could be that it hasn't been in the news because nobody died. Let's hope that is the case.
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stude31
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 05:36:25 PM »

to: MikeB

I agree it would be foolish to take a long distance ride with a poor worn out tire.  But, as it just happened to a fellow valk rider.  I just helped them out in west kansas and got home and they called and said that he had a flat at the tire was shot.  I remember putting the wheel back on and the tread looked new...  Needless to say....   It wasn't the rider's fault it was the tire coming apart.  One could argue that it was under or over inflated or too much tongue weight on the trailer....   

But, sometimes things just happen.... and in this case a man lost his life and another has to deal with running over a guy and him dying.  It's not easy on the victims family or the man that has to live with it.  My prayers are to the driver of the 18 wheeler and the victims family and friends...
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musclehead
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 07:57:47 PM »

damn! my truck won't go that fast, but some of these drivers out here are real morons. I hate to spout off without knowing the details but we have about 10% of people driving trucks that I wouldn't give keys to a moped much less a 70' long 13 1/2 foot tall 80,000 lbs behmoth.

prayers to the family

man your being kind...........there is a new fad with the truckers, they park in the center turn lanes to get coffee.

there is alot of them out there that need the rebar caps for thier fingertips so they dont damage thier brains when they pick thier noses.

I was feeling generous   Embarrassed  some of these people make me hang my head in shame to be in the same proffesion with them
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2010, 08:04:33 PM »

i work with a guy that rides 30 miles each day to work.  the other day i looked at his bold tire and asked him if he needed some money to buy a new tire, he didn't even know he had no tread left!!  some people believe that if it ain't broke don't fix it, that doesn't mean don't worry about it either!! 
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MP
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 04:51:37 AM »

Ah yes, car tires are bad, mc tires good.  Right!

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2010, 05:51:13 AM »

Hey Alph:  maybe that guy was running a racing slick on the back!  2funny

J\k.  I couldn't resist!  Have a good day man  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2010, 08:54:01 AM »

OK, so a bike blows a rear tire and crashes.  I would assume putting the two stories together, it was right in front of a truck, the truck locks it up trying to avoid it, and you all are blaming the trucker for the wreck?

Get real.  Ask Smoking Joe.  You cannot stop on a dime. "Left long skid marks'.  He tried.

MP

Which is exactly why you're supposed to leave a sufficient gap between you and the vehicle in front of you.
It's bad enough that almost no 4-wheelers seem to have ever heard of the 3 second rule, but a professional driver has no excuse. He had to take a test where that point was belabored repeatedly. Physics will not negotiate with you on this subject and no excuse about heavy traffic will bring that rider back to life.

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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2010, 10:10:18 AM »

I am not passing judgement on any situation that I have not personally witnessed.  I do know that lots of bikes and 4-wheelers pull way too close in front of trucks every day (personally witnessed).  I personally don't even "whip" in front of trucks in my Big ole Dodge 1-ton diesel and certainly not on the Valk!

Again, I wasn't there and can't tell what happened, just another angle.

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2010, 10:20:48 AM »

I am not passing judgement on any situation that I have not personally witnessed.  I do know that lots of bikes and 4-wheelers pull way too close in front of trucks every day (personally witnessed).  I personally don't even "whip" in front of trucks in my Big ole Dodge 1-ton diesel and certainly not on the Valk!

Again, I wasn't there and can't tell what happened, just another angle.

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Jimmyt

I wasn't there either, but a day doesn't go by, that at least one, usually more, cars and bikes pass me (I ALWAYS go the speed limit!), and cut back in front of me with a car length or so between us. This is at 60 mph.

Now, not to bash HD riders, or bikers in general, but I have seen MANY, MANY HD riders, and HD wannabe riders, be RIGHT on my bumper before they pass, then pass as close to me as possilbe, as if intimidating me, then pull back in a few feet from my front bumper. Seem to think it's cool, and I have had a whole string of bikes do it, when they are on a ride. And I always think that if something happened, I WOULD NOT be able to stop in time! Don't know if it happened here, but it IS a distinct possibility. And it seems exacerbated, when in a group. Peer pressure and all...

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2010, 10:36:08 AM »

OK, so a bike blows a rear tire and crashes.  I would assume putting the two stories together, it was right in front of a truck, the truck locks it up trying to avoid it, and you all are blaming the trucker for the wreck?

Get real.  Ask Smoking Joe.  You cannot stop on a dime. "Left long skid marks'.  He tried.

MP

Which is exactly why you're supposed to leave a sufficient gap between you and the vehicle in front of you.
It's bad enough that almost no 4-wheelers seem to have ever heard of the 3 second rule, but a professional driver has no excuse. He had to take a test where that point was belabored repeatedly. Physics will not negotiate with you on this subject and no excuse about heavy traffic will bring that rider back to life.



Do you have ANY idea how many drivers/riders have cut so close to the front of my Peterbilt that I actually lost sight of the rear of their car by my front bumper?  I bet you do not.

I have had cars pull right in front of me in 60 mph traffic in LA, then slam on the brakes, as the traffic is stopping.  They gained one car length.

I always love this game:  " Let's pull right in front of a semi, then slam on the brakes, and see if he can stop BEFORE he runs over the top of us!"

Always good for a few laughs, right?

I do not know what happened in this situation.  Just do not automatically jump all over the semi driver, OK?

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