10 key reasons why the Obama presidency - UK article

[98valk]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100050412/the-stunning-decline-of-barack-obama-10-key-reasons-why-the-obama-presidency-is-in-meltdown/


10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

Barack Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, and has made apologising for his country into an art form. In a speech to the United Nations last September he stated that “no one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.” It is difficult to see how a US president who holds these views and does not even accept America’s greatness in history can actually lead the world’s only superpower with force and conviction.

There is a distinctly Titanic-like feel to the Obama presidency and it’s not hard to see why. The most left-wing president in modern American history has tried to force a highly interventionist, government-driven agenda that runs counter to the principles of free enterprise, individual freedom, and limited government that have made the United States the greatest power in the world, and the freest nation on earth.

This, combined with weak leadership both at home and abroad against the backdrop of tremendous economic uncertainty in an increasingly dangerous world, has contributed to a spectacular political collapse for a president once thought to be invincible. America at its core remains a deeply conservative nation, which cherishes its traditions and founding principles. President Obama is increasingly out of step with the American people, by advancing policies that undermine the United States as a global power, while undercutting America’s deep-seated love for freedom.

[Skinhead]

Well said.

[Sludge]

Fine Article!

[x]

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

What utter nonsense.

[Chrisj CMA]

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

What utter nonsense.

I agree the Obama presidency is utter nonsense. Thank you SE for those words of wisdom.

[Tropic traveler]

What utter nonsense.
[/quote]

I'm sure the thought process behind this comment is that it is really GWB's fault.  


BTW, how does it feel all you libs out there getting a taste of the media piling on to your guy? 

I love it! 
They can dish it out but they show-nuff can't take it!!!

[Tropic traveler]

Of all the points this fellow made this one is the best IMHO.

5. Obama’s Big Government message is falling flat

The relentless emphasis on bailouts and stimulus spending has done little to spur economic growth or create jobs, but has greatly advanced the power of the federal government in America. This is not an approach that is proving popular with the American public, and even most European governments have long ditched this tax and spend approach to saving their own economies.

Come on November!
November won't get rid of the biggest problem however it dang sure will stop the bleeding!

[foottdude]

CA.  I am so happy that you printed this.  The american people have to know what a mistake Obama is.  How can the leader of the greatest country in the world not believe in his own country.  He is an embarrassment to the rest of the world.  His weakening of the USA will lead to the next world war.  No one takes him seriously.  He is no Ronald Reagan.  He panders to islamic countries while insulting his only middle east allies.  Todays headlines say that Obama supports the Islamic Mosque at ground zero, while 89% of americans oppose it.  Last time the USA was morally weakened, Iran stormed the American Embassy in Tehran and held americans hostage. Now, the Iranian President threatens destruction of Israel.  With Iran achieving nuclear weapons, the threat is real.  If Iran sends nuclear weapons towards Israel, do you feel that Obama will make the right decisions?  The Military despise him, and don't trust him. And, don't get me started on his healthcare plan.  As bad as his foreign policies are, his domestic policies are worse.    

[Robert]

Obama backs Ground Zero mosque, of course, he just turned off most of America

[Bobbo]

Obama backs Ground Zero mosque, of course, he just turned off most of America

Well, only the ones that think the First Amendment should be repealed.

[TearlessTom]

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

What utter nonsense.

Is SE reading the same article the rest of us are?  Guess it doesn't into translate to blind liberal to well...

[Doc Moose]

Perspectives from the foreign press always make for an interesting read as they aren't part of the Beltway babble.
I'm sure there are foreign press opines that herald BHO's success also. 

[Chrisj CMA]

Obama backs Ground Zero mosque, of course, he just turned off most of America

Well, only the ones that think the First Amendment should be repealed.

Bobbo, just because Terrorist Muslims refer to Islam as a religion when it suits them doesnt give a (so called) moderate Immam who is actually pretty radical to use money from unnamed and unknown forgin sources to build an international victory shrine at the foot of their largest modern conquest.  NO, thats not first ammendment, thats common sense.........

[foottdude]

Let us not forget:  watch this:

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[Robert]

I agree with Chris but lets put it in more real terms there is a story about a cop here on the board the one that he was hurt and not able to get out of the car. The bikers just stood there and laughed and taunted him so I guess you could call that freedom of speech too? Both are about the same with one exception the cop didn't die but 3000 did in New York. Compromise and weakness shown to people with a agenda will only serve to make matters worse not further the cause of righteousness. People usually spout ideals when they dont truly understand the deeper meaning of what is happening. Just as application of power done without thought intent and understanding brings tyranny so the opposite side is compromise, ideals, and principles applied without morals and rules is chaos and destruction. If there is no goal in the application of either and they are applied indiscriminately then the only result can be chaos loss of freedom, loss of hope, and the destruction of society. This has been modeled for generations and civilizations rising and falling. People are really pretty simple and need clear guidance, goals and hope to feel accomplished, safe and good about life. If things get to muddy then all will be lost. The application of these laws and principles is not easy and requires great wisdom something that has been lost in our society. Kinda like giving a kid a gun. Some will not understand the application of these principles and fight to distort them in order to achieve a personal goal. Welcome to the world today. Mans greed and selfishness without consideration for his fellow man and the wisdom to understand sometimes you dont always get what you want leads in directions that again lead to destruction. The founders of this country paid high prices to establish this country. Just like so many others they could have gone their own way with their own agenda and said I will work to better myself screw the rest.

[Robert]

The Muslim that wants to build the mosque is not so moderate and believes in suicide bombing and all that goes along with it. Put money, power and a little polish on the face of radical Islam and anyone can fall for it. Ideals, goals,results from actions, NOT whats said to your face these are the real words that some have not a clue about. We have elected presidents on what they said and seen the results in disappointments. When will we wake up and realize to not pull against one another but pull for each other against the powers that would seek to destroy the very society that allows all the freedom to trash the very ideals that led to the ability to do it.   

[Bobbo]

Bobbo, just because Terrorist Muslims refer to Islam as a religion when it suits them doesnt give a (so called) moderate Immam who is actually pretty radical to use money from unnamed and unknown forgin sources to build an international victory shrine at the foot of their largest modern conquest.  NO, thats not first ammendment, thats common sense.........

The phrase ..."or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"... in the First Amendment doesn’t contain provisions for exceptions based on popular opinion.  Please don’t interpret my opinion as in favor of this particular building, but as unmitigated support for our Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

We should never decide to put our Bill of Rights on hold to achieve a particular political goal.  I believe our Constitution and American ideals are strong enough to survive any challenge to it.

[fstsix]

Most of us will agree on separation of Church and State, except for trolls! But Mr President has NO common sense to know when to separate himself from these subjects, he should not stand on a soap box for any religion and just keep himself separated! But all would know the Muslim religion in the middle east is also the government. Obama is a Muslim!! but with all that LOVE shown by Reverend Wright makes you wonder who they really worshiped ? Again Mr presidents father never told HIM to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!! what a fool    

[Bobbo]

Most of us will agree on separation of Church and State, except for trolls! But Mr President has NO common sense to know when to separate himself form these subjects, he should not stand on a soap box for any religion and just keep himself separated! But all would know the Muslim religion in the middle east is also the government. Obama is a Muslim!! but with all that LOVE shown by Reverend Wright makes you wonder who they really worshiped ? Again Mr presidents father never told HIM to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!! what a fool    

The news articles said that President Obama supported the right of freedom of religion, not that he indorsed this particular religion or building.  He basically said that government shouldn’t play a role in deciding if this is the proper place for a mosque, outside of local building codes and ordinances.

[fstsix]

Most of us will agree on separation of Church and State, except for trolls! But Mr President has NO common sense to know when to separate himself form these subjects, he should not stand on a soap box for any religion and just keep himself separated! But all would know the Muslim religion in the middle east is also the government. Obama is a Muslim!! but with all that LOVE shown by Reverend Wright makes you wonder who they really worshiped ? Again Mr presidents father never told HIM to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!! what a fool    

The news articles said that President Obama supported the right of freedom of religion, not that he indorsed this particular religion or building.  He basically said that government shouldn’t play a role in deciding if this is the proper place for a mosque, outside of local building codes and ordinances.

Aug. 14) -- President Barack Obama drew criticism from some Republicans and representatives of 9/11 victims' families over his support for the mosque near ground zero in New York City.
"Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America's heart was broken nine years ago, and where her true values were on display for all to see," said Debra Burlingame, a spokeswoman for a group of victims' families, according to The Associated DePressed. Burlingame's brother was a pilot killed in the 9/11 attacks. So far, most Democratic politicians have ducked the issue, unwilling to engage in such a controversial dispute with November's mid-term elections looming.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/obama-slammed-praised-for-backing-ground-zero-mosque/19593700Even Democrats Oppose Ground Zero Mosque

    * 8/11/10 at 4:49 PM
    * Comment 61Comment 61Comments

Even Democrats Oppose Ground Zero Mosque

Photo: Timothy A. Clary/AFP/Getty Images

According to a new CNN poll, 68 percent of Americans nationwide oppose the mosque being built two blocks from ground zero, which is why President Obama will probably not choose to make this his latest "teachable moment." Even a majority of Democrats — the ones who are supposed to be the politically correct terrorist apologists — are opposed (54 percent against it to 43 percent for it). It's worth noting that another poll shows that, among those literally closest to the issue, the mosque has wider support: Manhattanites back the mosque 53 percent to 31 percent. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/even_democrats_oppose_ground_z_1.html

[Romeo]

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

Hey Strong eagle, kiss my skinny white American ass

What utter nonsense.

[98valk]

Obama backs Ground Zero mosque, of course, he just turned off most of America

Well, only the ones that think the First Amendment should be repealed.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/98992344_Synagogue_hearing_is_heading_for_round_three_.html

[x]

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

What utter nonsense.

I agree the Obama presidency is utter nonsense. Thank you SE for those words of wisdom.

Too bad you can't read for meaning.

[x]

10. Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

Hey Strong eagle, kiss my skinny white American ass

What utter nonsense.

Hey!  Did someone delete the CA exhausted and coated dude?  Has his skinny white AMERICAN ass disappeared into nothing?  Is the CAEC boy demonstrating homoerotic tendencies, what with him asking me to kiss his ass and all?

[f6john]

     One thing that can be counted on is that we all get SE's meaning. We probably won't like it but we get it.

[Sludge]

F6 on that I think we can all agree.

SE, I dont think he has any homo-erotic tendencies.  Too bad YOU cant read for meaning.  And, in general, I agree with his remarks.   Oh, and if he did have homo-erotic tendencies, I would think that a card carrying lefty like yourself would run to his beck and call and bend over and take one for the team ... given the touchy feely tolerance of the left.

[Blade]

I could go on and on about our president and his agenda to stomp out America's freedom! I'd best not get on my soapbox, I never thought I would see the day that America would vote a man like this into our highest office. Our freedoms are being stripped away one by one. Hopefully soon Americans can reclaim our country!

[Bobbo]

Most of us will agree on separation of Church and State, except for trolls! But Mr President has NO common sense to know when to separate himself form these subjects, he should not stand on a soap box for any religion and just keep himself separated! But all would know the Muslim religion in the middle east is also the government. Obama is a Muslim!! but with all that LOVE shown by Reverend Wright makes you wonder who they really worshiped ? Again Mr presidents father never told HIM to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!! what a fool    

The news articles said that President Obama supported the right of freedom of religion, not that he indorsed this particular religion or building.  He basically said that government shouldn’t play a role in deciding if this is the proper place for a mosque, outside of local building codes and ordinances.

Aug. 14) -- President Barack Obama drew criticism from some Republicans and representatives of 9/11 victims' families over his support for the mosque near ground zero in New York City.
"Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America's heart was broken nine years ago, and where her true values were on display for all to see," said Debra Burlingame, a spokeswoman for a group of victims' families, according to The Associated DePressed. Burlingame's brother was a pilot killed in the 9/11 attacks. So far, most Democratic politicians have ducked the issue, unwilling to engage in such a controversial dispute with November's mid-term elections looming.
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/obama-slammed-praised-for-backing-ground-zero-mosque/19593700Even Democrats Oppose Ground Zero Mosque

    * 8/11/10 at 4:49 PM
    * Comment 61Comment 61Comments

Even Democrats Oppose Ground Zero Mosque

Photo: Timothy A. Clary/AFP/Getty Images

According to a new CNN poll, 68 percent of Americans nationwide oppose the mosque being built two blocks from ground zero, which is why President Obama will probably not choose to make this his latest "teachable moment." Even a majority of Democrats — the ones who are supposed to be the politically correct terrorist apologists — are opposed (54 percent against it to 43 percent for it). It's worth noting that another poll shows that, among those literally closest to the issue, the mosque has wider support: Manhattanites back the mosque 53 percent to 31 percent. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/even_democrats_oppose_ground_z_1.html

People, me included, can oppose this mosque all they want.  It's just the feds can't stop it if they meet all local laws, zoning, and building codes.

[Sludge]

On this we agree Bobbo.  So long as they follow the law, no one can stop them.. in the government.  Public outcry etc is the only tool at hand.  The construction companies in NYC are all union are they not?  What if they refuse to work?  That may be a way... 

[f6john]

     Here's a BIG what if:
   

     But let's set the stage and make some assumptions. That the USA is overall the most powerful nation on the globe. We have a President that is/was being cheered around the world upon his election. Our President has apologized for our "bad behavior" to the rest of the world. We have men and women dieing around the globe to establish the very freedom we discuss here, a sacrifice they make willingly and freely.

     What if the undisputed leader of the free world who everybody loves and adores were to communicate to those necessary that while they have every right under our laws to build a mosque anywhere that meets established building criteria that it would be in very poor taste, that it would forever be a reminder the religious tenants that the terrorists hid behind was theirs. That as we respect their rights and religious freedom that they should know that building this mosque would be like us pissing on the Koran or depicting a cartoon Mohammad.


     It is my understanding that the President made a decision to take a public position on the mosque and he did it in front of a group made up of muslim and islamic people of importance. He let me down, again, No real leadership. Everyone and anyone can quote from the constitution and our laws, but when you are in the most powerful position in the free world it takes a special brand of leadership and diplomacy to address something like this. He is not the man for the job, I don't know if there is presently a politician that is the man for the job. It would sure be nice to get behind a real leader.

[Sludge]

I agree fully with you too F6.  The president always has the bully pulpit.  He failed to use it.

He is too busy bending over ... um bowing... to find out just exactly what spot on their asses he needs to kiss.

[Scanner]

lmao, you guys must have missed the memo - you are to always refer to it as a "VICTORY MOSQUE".   By the way, are they going to build it next to one of the strip clubs and liquor stores that are even nearer the site?

Do u realize what lunatics you sound like????  Because some slimy politicians know they can easily lead you down your fantasy lane, and the morons on FOX and pin-headed talk radio basket cases want your ratings, they come up with the looniest crap conceivable knowing that there is a certain group of people who will march lockstep off the deep-end for them.  

You want to revoke the first amendment of the Constitution?  Along with the 14th?   Busy little buggers ain't ya?

Guess you guys might as well substitute the constitution with selected passages from Mein Kampf...

Disgusting...

Thank God there are some true Americans out in the reality based world that, when they get over their revulsion, will stand up to you and keep America what it was meant to be - Land of the Free and home of the Brave.  Again you act like terrified little mice that scatter under the lights.  We are Americans, we aren't afraid of any religion or race.  You have seen the enemy and he is you.  They look and see that you are quick to change your "ideals" and get rid of our freedoms when you feel threatened. Grow up kids, or at least stay hid under the bed so the the world doesn't see you and think you represent America, cause you don't.

[fstsix]

lmao, you guys must have missed the memo - you are to always refer to it as a "VICTORY MOSQUE".   By the way, are they going to build it next to one of the strip clubs and liquor stores that are even nearer the site?

Do u realize what lunatics you sound like????  Because some slimy politicians know they can easily lead you down your fantasy lane, and the morons on FOX and pin-headed talk radio basket cases want your ratings, they come up with the looniest crap conceivable knowing that there is a certain group of people who will march lockstep off the deep-end for them.  

You want to revoke the first amendment of the Constitution?  Along with the 14th?   Busy little buggers ain't ya?

Guess you guys might as well substitute the constitution with selected passages from Mein Kampf...

Disgusting...

Thank God there are some true Americans out in the reality based world that, when they get over their revulsion, will stand up to you and keep America what it was meant to be - Land of the Free and home of the Brave.  Again you act like terrified little mice that scatter under the lights.  We are Americans, we aren't afraid of any religion or race.  You have seen the enemy and he is you.  They look and see that you are quick to change your "ideals" and get rid of our freedoms when you feel threatened. Grow up kids, or at least stay hid under the bed so the the world doesn't see you and think you represent America, cause you don't.

Step daddy, you are over your head, You should either open the Bible or Open the Quran, like Obama who sat in a (Quote) Church full of hate and can't decide what faith he is, maybe one should just gets some modern day therapy to find the real problem in their soul, Oh! you say "Thank God" What god is it you seek? and is this the Americans you speek of ? my prayers for you today are first on my list..Thank God there are some true Americans out in the reality based world that, when they get over their revulsion, will stand up to you and keep America what it was meant to be    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-name/

[Robert]

The government can stop any building if you doubt it then you haven't heard how the local governments are restricting/stopping churches being built and enforcing building codes that go way beyond what is normal in an effort to make building them impossible. Or that they can restrict the color you paint your house or that a auto shop cannot go into a main traffic area. If you think it would be any harder than the stroke of a pen you wrong.

Listen to the eman that is building the mosque in what he says and know that this man is for suicide bombing and all the policies of radical islam
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6696845n&tag=related;photovideo

As for sounding like loonies I would never hope that anything bad would happen to anyone's family but if you had someone in your family die at the hands of someone else and that person wanted live next door Id say that there could be a problem. Even when there is a major operation going against the very religon that this is about going in Afghanistan.

How is it that the supposed learned can skip the tenets of the Islamic religion or the fact that this Oman believes everything about radical Islam or that there are plenty of Mosques in New York without limiting the freedom of religion. That you cannot have  compassion on the feelings of most of the population of the US and those that lost families at the hand of Islam. I would say learn what the Quran says then come with a argument based on truth instead of wrong intent.

The US is not a democratic society but a Republic which has a few differences one of which is majority rules.

A republic is a form of government in which the people or some portion thereof retain supreme control over the government and in which the head of government is not a monarch.The word "republic" is derived from the Latin phrase res publica, which can be translated as "a public affair".

Thats why it is government by and for the people not people by and for the government which is whats happening now. Regardless of Your side to have prop 8 overturned by judges is wrong. If one judge can overturn the desires of the people then it can happen both ways. Just a example of how far this country has really come off track.

[f6john]

lmao, you guys must have missed the memo - you are to always refer to it as a "VICTORY MOSQUE".   By the way, are they going to build it next to one of the strip clubs and liquor stores that are even nearer the site?

Do u realize what lunatics you sound like????  Because some slimy politicians know they can easily lead you down your fantasy lane, and the morons on FOX and pin-headed talk radio basket cases want your ratings, they come up with the looniest crap conceivable knowing that there is a certain group of people who will march lockstep off the deep-end for them.  

You want to revoke the first amendment of the Constitution?  Along with the 14th?   Busy little buggers ain't ya?

Guess you guys might as well substitute the constitution with selected passages from Mein Kampf...

Disgusting...

Thank God there are some true Americans out in the reality based world that, when they get over their revulsion, will stand up to you and keep America what it was meant to be - Land of the Free and home of the Brave.  Again you act like terrified little mice that scatter under the lights.  We are Americans, we aren't afraid of any religion or race.  You have seen the enemy and he is you.  They look and see that you are quick to change your "ideals" and get rid of our freedoms when you feel threatened. Grow up kids, or at least stay hid under the bed so the the world doesn't see you and think you represent America, cause you don't.

     Feel better now? Glad you got that off your chest I'm sure. How about you run all that by the the extended families of the the thousands of people who died on 9-11 and then get back with us about the true Americans and their revulsion.

[Jess from VA]

Thank God there are some true Americans out in the reality based world that, when they get over their revulsion, will stand up to you and keep America what it was meant to be - Land of the Free and home of the Brave.

This forum is full of true Americans..... and about the only revulsion I get here is from reading your posts.

[Charlie]

On this we agree Bobbo.  So long as they follow the law, no one can stop them.. in the government.  Public outcry etc is the only tool at hand.  The construction companies in NYC are all union are they not?  What if they refuse to work?  That may be a way... 

Don't hold your breathe waiting for this to happen.  Building that Mosque is big business, and big business only cares about us when they can make a buck doing it.

[Charlie]

The US is not a democratic society but a Republic which has a few differences one of which is majority rules.

Well put.  Now show us the statistics you have which show the majority feel the same way you do.  If you can, you have a good point.  If you can't you are just rambling.  Frankly, I believe the moderate view and, obviously, the liberal view, are not with you.  That suggests the majority is not with you, but I can not prove that, so, maybe I am rambling   

[Robert]

Overwhelming majority oppose mosque near Ground Zero
Posted: August 11th, 2010 01:02 PM ET

(CNN) - A proposed mosque to be built two blocks from the World Trade Center has little support nationwide, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll suggests.

According to the new survey out Wednesday, nearly 70 percent of all Americans oppose the controversial plan to build the mosque just blocks away from the solemn site in lower Manhattan while just 29 percent favor the construction.

Broken down by party affiliation, 54 percent of Democrats oppose the plans while 82 percent of Republicans disapprove. Meanwhile, 70 percent of independents said they are against the proposal.

The poll also showed opposition did not vary widely by age.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/11/overwhelming-majority-oppose-mosque-near-ground-zero/

http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2010/08/10/marist-majority-opposes-ground-zero-mosque-blooomberg-approval-at-5-year-low/

If the proponents of the Mosque really wanted to build bridges, they would fund a trust that would provide for the college education and health care of the loved ones of those who were killed on 9/11 by the 19 Jihadists (mis)representing themselves as Muslims.

“But when it comes to a yes or no vote, more than a quarter of those that agree with the supporters, nearly half of those that see both sides and virtually all of those that question the appropriateness of the mosque currently vote ‘No’ on the project,” Levy stated.

The SRI survey was conducted July 27 to 29 and Aug. 2 to 3, 2010 by telephone with 622 New York state residents.

Last month, the Rasmussen Reports conducted a national poll on 1,000 likely U.S. voters and found that only 20 percent of Americans support an Islamic cultural center near the Ground Zero site. Fifty-four percent of Americans, meanwhile, said they oppose such a building.
http://au.christiantoday.com/article/only-one-quarter-of-new-yorkers-support-ground-zero-mosque-majority-oppose/8820.htm

[Jeff K]

The US is not a democratic society but a Republic which has a few differences one of which is majority rules.

Well put.  Now show us the statistics you have which show the majority feel the same way you do.  If you can, you have a good point.  If you can't you are just rambling.  Frankly, I believe the moderate view and, obviously, the liberal view, are not with you.  That suggests the majority is not with you, but I can not prove that, so, maybe I am rambling   

  41.
As you may know, a group of Muslims in the U.S. plan to build a mosque two blocks from the site
in New York City where the World Trade Center used to stand. Do you favor or oppose this plan?
Aug. 6-10
2010
Favor 29%
Oppose 68%
No opinion 3%

Cnn Mosque Poll

Fifty-two percent of the respondents said they did not want the mosque to be built at all, 31 percent are in favor of it, and 17 percent are undecided

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/New-Yorkers-Oppose-Ground-Zero-Mosque-Poll-97602569.html