1800 goldwing vs. valk

[flcjr]

anyone ever race one just curios also for those you own a goldwing does it handle and perform as good or better than a valk

[HayHauler]

On the straight away, Valk has no chance.  In the curves, the rider could make the difference.

Learned in High School....  "There is no substitution for cubic inches"...

Hay 
Jimmyt

[f6john]

     I'm faster on a 1800 wing than my Valkyrie. That's not yo say that I would be faster than anyone else on a Valkyrie.

[flcjr]

i was more wanting to know the ability of the bike not the rider i am not surprised to here that the wing is faster what about some of the other big cruisers out there vtx 1800, kawasaki vulcan 2000 and others???

[Sludge]

In the curves my 1800 Wing will flat leave my Valk.  Its a great handling machine.

I think my Valk had it on top end though when it was still stock.

[Sludge]

Having ridden a VTX 1800 and wrung its neck a bit I still think the wing will handle it.  Again, in the twisties its gonna leave it if the rider is up to the task.  I havent ridden a Vulcan 2000 so I cant help ya there.

[fstsix]

Yep! went and visited a Gold wing meeting in Va looking for some group riding mates, parked my Valk at the end of the parking lot nobody seen it while at the meeting, well...when the meeting was over 3 of them got on the freeway on ramp and glanced over at me like Huh... whatever! so they tried to make look at their taillights LOL!!!!!!  i merged to the left with a wheel stand and scared one of them....so after i slowed for them to catch up they tried to do a roll on LOL!!!!!!  the guys had their throttle twisted so hard i remember their elbows under the handle bars pointing forward they tried to out run my Valk 3 times that knight didn't even come close!! The next week at a CMA meeting my Area rep said he got a call about some crazy guy passing them on the freeway was that you.....maybe? sore loser's         

[f6john]

anyone ever race one just curios also for those you own a goldwing does it handle and perform as good or better than a valk

     My advice is to ride an 1800 Wing to see for yourself, then see if you can get a ride on fstsix's blown Valk. I'd like a shot at that myself.

[Sludge]

Yea you noticed I said when my Valk was still stock... they dont stand a ghost of a chance now.  That wasnt fair to em fstsix   

[Tundra]

Racing on straight away, I won once on my Valk. with mods. He one once same straight away. The Wing is supposed to be faster, techically. I think it depends on the rider, I was running my dyna at the time before it crapped out, think that helped. He always slaughters me in the corners, that thing handles great with the right rider. (I still have the C/T)
  I did ride it and was impressed. I believe it handled like a sport bike in comparison to my Valk. It felt light and nimble.

[fstsix]

Yea you noticed I said when my Valk was still stock... they dont stand a ghost of a chance now.  That wasnt fair to em fstsix   

I Noticed, your a honest man Sludge LOL!!!

[fstsix]

Racing on straight away, I won once on my Valk. with mods. He one once same straight away. The Wing is supposed to be faster, techically. I think it depends on the rider, I was running my dyna at the time before it crapped out, think that helped. He always slaughters me in the corners, that thing handles great with the right rider. (I still have the C/T)

Tundra, may go back to a MC tire myself this winter,don't like the parking lot uneven try to throw me off thing, But with the Blower the off the line bite is unreal!!! this girl hooks up! with the MC tire is like it is on ICE, i don't know what is more dangerous, may just be the Pilot   

[BigMac NJ]

Brothers GL1800 "03" vs. my Valks (tourer and Interstate ). I give the edge to the 1800. The wing handles better.

Gl1000 1975 vs Gl1800 "03".. unless you're on top of your game on the 1800 the little or first Wing will beat the 1800 to 75 mph..then it's cc's taking over.. My 1979 Wing....Slow by wing standards..

[flcjr]

so i think everyone agrees stock 1800 wing vs. stock valk wing wins drag race twisties depends on rider. what about valk vs. 1800vtx or vulcan 2000,victory,yamaha,or any one who makes a larger cruiser people say that the valk just doesn't match anymore but i disagree. Love riding mine but not alot of anything but harleys on the road around here. do not want to start a brand war just curios in seat of the pants feel from anyone who as ridden others

[f6john]

     It's really more about what you want than what others are saying about the Valk not matching up well anymore. If you want all out speed you have to get a sportbike or crotch rocket, except for fstsix, jeffk and a handful of others with blowers. If you want a V twin sound that what you have to have.

[big turkey]

A famous man once said right before the Ride.

It's not a race Mate.

Big Al

[Tropic traveler]

Well.... while the 'Wing is a totally awesome machine that will 9 out of 10 times whup a Valk in a straight line, I know of one stock cruiser that no other stock cruiser will touch.  


This thing has BRUTAL acceleration!
There is a term called "the Rocket Grin" that any R3 owner can tell you about. Alas, even though I reminisce fondly about my Rocket, it is IMHO nowhere near the "total package" bike that my Valk is.

It has been my experience over the years that the Valk will take most any big cruiser, all stock, with the exception of the 'Wing, M109R, & the Rocket 3. The VTX1800 is too close to call.
Bear in mind here that all the big cruisers I have listed have a larger engine, F.I., & a newer design.
Before the "what abouts" start, this is my experience only & I said BIG cruisers, not dinky little V-Rods & customs.  

Long live the out-dated Valk!!!!!

P.S..... Imagine what a poked & stroked, 2+ liter flat six, EFI updated "new Valk" might do performance wise. Can you say "Rocket killer"??

[Stanley Steamer]

The Frog begs to differ Al......

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[PAVALKER]

so i think everyone agrees stock 1800 wing vs. stock valk wing wins drag race twisties depends on rider. what about valk vs. 1800vtx or vulcan 2000,victory,yamaha,or any one who makes a larger cruiser people say that the valk just doesn't match anymore but i disagree. Love riding mine but not alot of anything but harleys on the road around here. do not want to start a brand war just curios in seat of the pants feel from anyone who as ridden others

The power band on my VTX is different than my Valk IS.  The VTX is snappier and quicker at the git go than my Valk I think (at least it feels it).  When riding the Valk IS with my VTX buddies.... I can keep up no problem, or even get ahead depending on who has the edge (throttles first).  We never really raced em.  Although when I first got it they tried to pull away and leave the fat lady.... but that didn't happen and they have not tried that again.... 

[big turkey]

In a roll on throttle contest, already doing say 40 or 50 mph, he who is in the lower gear wins.

Big AL

[wlgrice]

I have owned both, 2003 goldwing and 6 differant valks. The wing is faster but not much, but it handles way better in the twisties. But, I still own a valk, and not the wing. The valk has style, that the wing cant compair with. Long live the valkyrie.......

[BradValk48237]

As of yesterday...... 3 races, 3 different spots, 2 different days.....

2010 Star Venture Touring vs. 2009 Hardley Ultra Classic Electra Glide vs 2006 Wing vs 2000 Valk interstate(Red/Black);

Results:

Race 1- 1. Wing, 2. Valk, 3. Star, 4. Hardley..... Wing had holeshot, Wing and Valk together up to 80 ish.... then Wing

Race 2-1. Wing, 2. Valk, 3. Star, 4. Hardley..... Valk had the hole shot and  was passed at 75, 80
              ish, but ended before Wing got past front tire of Valk


Race 3- 1. Wing, 2. Valk, 3. Star, 4. Hardley..... Wing and Valk together again up to 80 ish....
               Valk did again have Hole shot, and again held its own until 75 'ish.


Not measured distance, good old fashioned go on the green street race....  Over all from the hole to 75-80 'ish can go either way, after that Wing walks away and better Top end. The Star wasn't far behind but never could keep up.

Dad, myself, and a couple of friends just went to Copper Harbor MI and had lots of quiet roads in the UP..... My Valk, Dad's Wing, friends Star and Hardley (But what do you know.... not a single part fell off in 4 Days and 1500 miles +!)

Good time was had by all !...

B

[KW]

There’s really not much to add to this thread, but I think I will anyway 

I’ve ridden most the bikes mentioned here and have ridden with all of them. I agree with the general consensus so far.  The Valk will win out of the hole – against almost every bike I’ve seen - but the Wing is ‘faster’ (subjectively speaking) overall. Unless, of course,  you’re including the Triumph Rocket III in the conversation. I’m still not happy Triumph used the old BSA moniker, but I guess they owned the rights, so whatever. I have to say the Rocket is easily the fastest bike mentioned here . . . The ‘thing’ is an arm ripping MONSTER. Anyone who’s ridden one will agree too. There’s some things I don’t care for about the bike and IMO the Valk is a FAR better machine, but in pure ‘scary’ speed, it’s the Rocket.   

The most skilled RIDER will win ANY road race though. Period.  I rode with a retired MC Officer a few years ago. The guy had spent something like 30 years, 40-60 hours a week, chasing down bad guys from the saddle of a two wheel machine.  He was simply the best motorcycle jockey I’ve ever seen. The old guy was on a new Wing and ATE the corners like a Pro. He pulled away from another Wing and 3 Valks like we were on Honda Mini-trail 50’s.  . . . and disappeared down the road. We found him waiting for us at the next store, drinking a pop.

So, street light to street light, have at it . . .  but if you’re going to sell smack tickets before racing across the county, make sure you’re the best rider.

[highcountry]

Probably not relevant to this discussion but my other bike is a FJR1300.  It has 45 hp more than the Valk and about the same torque and weighs about 100 lb less.  Obviously no contest in acceleration or speed but I am impressed how well the Valk handles the curves, can't stay with the FJR, but still is a blast to ride.  The phat lady is a nimble wench.

[franco6]

.02 c. the wing 1800 reminded me alot of my st 11oo it certainly feels lighter than the valk and has great handling. the ST is faster than the valk, but 2-up the valk is a better machine. 

[Tundra]

Franco6, question regarding your post...
   02 c . the wing 1800 reminded me alot of my st 11oo it certainly feels lighter than the valk and has great handling. the ST is faster than the valk, but 2-up the valk is a better machine.  Kind of getting away from the original post, I've been looking at sport tourers and the ST-1300 is a strong contender. I thought with the grabrails and backrest added it would make my wife feel more secure. All I read states real comfortable, great long haul, or carving canyons. You say the Valk is more comfortable two up, can you elaborate? Thanks, appreciate any first hand tips, knowledge 

[Highbinder]

I've run against two 1800's beat both of them....thru the gears the 1800 had me but the Valk can top end him in a 4-5 mile run....the speed record at Bonneville stands on a 97 stock valk at 137.+ stock 1800 Wing 127.+ this is over a 4 mile track, would seem the wing has a governer set lower then the valk....my 2 wins could have just been the others riders quitting on the run, once you get over 125 its takes alot of heart to keep pulling.. ...in reality they are two different kinds of bikes...the valk being a cruisier and the new wings are more of a sport tourer now, rather then a touring bike...by the way the guy who has the record at Bonnieville has a standing challege to any stock wing who thinks its BS....

[Wizzard]

My buddies Rocket 3 will flat out smoke my valk standard. No contest.

[franco6]

Tundra, Personaly I love them both but the valk has more cruiser apeal
has more equipement available to make it as confy for your wife as she wants to be. the ST is more of a sport bike and very comfortable but 2-up it lacks the torque of the f6 and frankly the siting position does not lend to long rides. though i m well aware that lots of ST owners travel long and far, it is a younger crowd (mostly)
My wife doesn t realy like riding on the ST because -its too fast-but its realy a question of perception ,it is quicker and more agile than the valk  but on the valk going fast does not seem so! .the ST solo riding  is very remarkable. its also extremly dependable.
before i got the valk i looked hard at the ST1300 but since i already had one ---

[Sludge]

My buddies Rocket 3 will flat out smoke my valk standard. No contest.

Thats pretty much a no brainer

[Tundra]

Franco6...
  Thanks for your input
Tundra, Personaly I love them both but the valk has more cruiser apeal
has more equipement available to make it as confy for your wife as she wants to be. the ST is more of a sport bike and very comfortable but 2-up it lacks the torque of the f6 and frankly the siting position does not lend to long rides. though i m well aware that lots of ST owners travel long and far, it is a younger crowd (mostly)
My wife doesn t realy like riding on the ST because -its too fast-but its realy a question of perception ,it is quicker and more agile than the valk  but on the valk going fast does not seem so! .the ST solo riding  is very remarkable. its also extremly dependable.
before i got the valk i looked hard at the ST1300 but since i already had one ---