Dyna-3000-CDI-Ignition-Honda-Valkyrie-GL1500

[HickoryNCInterstate]

Saw this on Ebay  Anybody ever used??? Over $200 ..........

thanks as always for the great help!!!!

[Momz]

 

[YardBoy]

http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/detail.cfm?Category_ID=91&manufacturer_ID=275&product_ID=8050&sblid_name=Dyna_Performance_Dyna___

These folks have the Dyna 3000 on sale for $199.99.  Best money I've spent on the valkyrie.  More power and better fuel economy.

[Willow]

Saw this on Ebay  Anybody ever used??? Over $200 ..........

Hickory, I've ridden with one for over 100K miles and love it.  I ride a 2001 standard.

Your user name indicates you might ride an Interstate?  The last I looked the Dyna was specifically made for the Standard and Tourer.  The Interstate has a physically similar ICM, but with a different stock curve.

Perhaps someone more knowlegeable than I can confirm or deny its useability for the Interstate.

[HickoryNCInterstate]

Willow, thanks for the information........I was wondering about the interstate, didn't realize there is was any different in the engine vs other models? Ad states for standard and tourer..........

[theman8120]

i just got one form my valk std. it runs sweeeeeeeet I love it. totally agree with keeping stock cdi in saddle bag thats were mine is>

[98valk]

the dyna works with all models. The TWs are the same for all engines, only the ICM for the I/S is different. Dyna was orginally going to offer a dyna with different curves for the I/S but decided after testing that there was no need, hence one dyna for all.

formerly 98valk

[f6john]

the dyna works with all models. The TWs are the same for all engines, only the ICM for the I/S is different. Dyna was orginally going to offer a dyna with different curves for the I/S but decided after testing that there was no need, hence one dyna for all.

formerly 98valk

Well not exactly, there were both the 6 degree and 4 degree wheels and the 4 degree wheel was intended for the Interstate since its ICM had more advance built in than the Std/Tourer model ICM's. Either would bolt on all the models just as the Dyna does.

[98valk]

[Well not exactly, there were both the 6 degree and 4 degree wheels and the 4 degree wheel was intended for the Interstate since its ICM had more advance built in than the Std/Tourer model ICM's. Either would bolt on all the models just as the Dyna does.
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Well exactly, The 6 and 4 degree TWs are aftermarket products. The stock OEM TWs are all the same, all models, all yrs. The base initial engine timing is the same all yrs, all models. The "more advance" u are talking about for the I/S is only that the I/S has a quicker advance rise upto 2k rpms to 3k rpms, after approx 4k rpms the curves are exactly the same.
U can compare the charts here. And thanks go to Tim for keeping his site up.
http://www.timskelton.com/valkyrie/tech/trigger_wheel_plus_dyna3000.htm

[YardBoy]

I think a lot of the bad press about the Dyna 3000 was in fact caused by the aftermarket trigger wheels.  The Valkyrie does not start well with a lot of advanced timing.  If you run the advanced wheel and then retard with the Dyna, then what was the point?  Someone with more understanding of ignition timing explain this for us.  I'm fairly sure during R&D a lot of testing time went into the Dyna preset curves using the stock trigger wheel.  I understand the need to retard timing on a boosted engine.  I've used both Nitrous and Turbochargers drag racing the 4 wheelers.  Anyhow, the Dyna 3000 on a stock 98 standard was the most performance gain for the money spent in my fifty years of hot rodding.       

[98valk]

The dyna will only give u more top end power if u use curve 8 to limit the max advance to about 26 degrees.  Read the old posts on tim skeltons site. A couple of the members were beta testers for dyna. i.e.,
"This data is per Hondatek. He has the dyno info if we can get him to post. For best power with the 1520, lots of initial advance with a flat total advance. IE: 10deg initial with a max of 26deg at rpm. According to Hondatek's data the 1520 will actually lose 1 HP per degree over 26 total. This is why you might lose top end with just an advanced TW. It will advance the timing across the entire curve giving you too much at redline."

I run the stock TW modified for 6 degrees and the dyna curve 7, and using the retard feature. This allows extra advance at hwy speeds for better mpg. In retard mode -10 degrees the advance is 1 degree more than the stock I/S ICM curve.

[Six Packer]

Bostonrats----I have to agree with you in that I also have a '97 stock and it runs like a scalded dog.
I have had two other '99 Valks in years past and the '97 runs away from them.  Just my butt meter.  Must be the little bit the '97 has that later years don't.   With the Dyna on the '97 you may pick up a little MPG but let's face it, you're riding a motorcycle.

If it ain't broke - don't fix it.

[nortman]

Thanks for the link to the closeout on the Dyna.  I ordered one from them last night

[98valk]

If I remember correctly the  alternator is not charging when lower than 900 rpms.

[f6john]

[Well not exactly, there were both the 6 degree and 4 degree wheels and the 4 degree wheel was intended for the Interstate since its ICM had more advance built in than the Std/Tourer model ICM's. Either would bolt on all the models just as the Dyna does.

Well exactly, The 6 and 4 degree TWs are aftermarket products. The stock OEM TWs are all the same, all models, all yrs. The base initial engine timing is the same all yrs, all models. The "more advance" u are talking about for the I/S is only that the I/S has a quicker advance rise upto 2k rpms to 3k rpms, after approx 4k rpms the curves are exactly the same.
U can compare the charts here. And thanks go to Tim for keeping his site up.
http://www.timskelton.com/valkyrie/tech/trigger_wheel_plus_dyna3000.htm
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My reason for posting was for clarification of your statement that all TW's are the same for all engines which could be confusing for new owners who are dependent on this forum for their info. Of course you were correct, but without stating OEM in your origional statement it could confuse an otherwise simple issue. I'm sure you are much better acquainted with the Dyna 3000 than I am, but when I read something that makes me say uhhhh, I respond to it. 9 out of 10 readers are probably knowledgeable enough to know exactly what you meant.

[Six Packer]

Hey Bostonrats, I totally agree with passing on the Dyna for now.  I too had thoughts of using the Dyna but the little bit it may give me on top end and a little better gas mileage doesn't really interest me if I lose performance elsewhere.  Like I said I have had a '99 Interstate with a 4 degree wheel and a 99 standard with an Interstate ICM and those bikes didn't run as well a my '97 stock.   I guess I will just keep my $200 for something else if it comes along.

[Master Blaster]

I have a 97 Std with an 01 I/S engine and an I/S ICM, also have A Dyna that I bought a few years ago and never installed.   Been thinking of trying it on the 97 to see if I can get a mileage bump.  Also have a 2K I/S that I have been running a 6 deg Airlake trigger wheel on for probably 8 years now wth no ill effects.  If I had it to do over again, I would just modify the stock trigger rather than buying aftermarket.  If anyone decides to make this change, be advised that all aftermarket wheels are not the same.

[RUDE DOG - Steelers]

Love it...

[woefman]

http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/detail.cfm?Category_ID=91&manufacturer_ID=275&product_ID=8050&sblid_name=Dyna_Performance_Dyna___

These folks have the Dyna 3000 on sale for $199.99.  Best money I've spent on the valkyrie.  More power and better fuel economy.

OMG that is the worst website i ever used I searched every which way from sunday to try buy one for a Valk.  Your poste dlink was a real tease website wont let me locate it by searching to add to cart.

GRRRR 

[nortman]

   On the link page it says that it is no longer available.  Glad that I bought mine from them in the spring when the link was first posted.