My best rear tire ...EVER

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Fuzion ZRi ....This tire has 11,931 miles on ( I thought it was more until I checked this morning ) at any rate it's still the best tire I've had on my Valkyrie for mileage and handling since 1998.I was trashin' Dunflops at 4,500 to 5,000 and only getting around 8,000 to 8,500 on Avon...I could have pressed a couple more thousand out of it ( maybe    ) however I had a left bearing causin' a vibe I did'nt like so I pulled it off and I'm not going through all that work to just have to pull it all apart again soon.When my bike's hit the 10,000 mile mark on a rear tire all I think about is " I need to service the final drive " . Splines was still lubed at 11,931 miles however it was time to pull it to clean and re-lube if I had pushed a couple more thousand out of the tire I'm not so sure the splines would have still been well lubed 

[solo1]

Hey Joe. I've really looked into Ultra High Performance tires since I drive a Miata. There is a good source for that info at Tire Rack.  No affiliation, blah, blah.  It's amazing how even UHP tires are different.  Almost all of them gain that fantastic traction by sacrificing cold temp performance.

That is something to keep in mind. You've probably thought of it. The Fusion ZR1 just like most of the UHP tires is a summer tire. The specs specifically mention that it is not be used in winter or near freezing conditions because its great traction will go away when it gets that cold.  It's a well known fact for sports car drivers and I thought i'd mention it here.  Not many sports car drivers drive in winter but when they do they switch to winter tires.

It probably isn't a big deal in Tennessee but here in the northern states it is.  That was one of the reasons that I installed a Goodyear Triple Tread on my sidecar rig.  The Goodyear doesn't have super traction but it is an all weather tire good in freezing conditions.

It would be a big problem if someone would be riding his Valk here in Indiana in close to freezing conditions with a UHP tire on and finds out the hard way the temp limitations.

I'm not knocking the Dark Side, CT's work fine, just know the temp conditions under which UHP tires operate.

Wayne

[Cliff]

..................It would be a big problem if someone would be riding his Valk here in Indiana in close to freezing conditions with a UHP tire on and finds out the hard way the temp limitations.

I'm not knocking the Dark Side, CT's work fine, just know the temp conditions under which UHP tires operate.

Wayne

Actually, some of us ride in below freezing temps, in late fall early winter I often ride when it is 20 degrees, yes it's cold but I love to ride!

[Spirited-6]

Joe, I understand where you are coming from. At this time I have 10,818 miles on a rear Metz 880 that has miles left on it, maybe 5 to 6,000. But I keep thinking about "RE-LUB" Drives me nuts.  I will pull rear at a later date to re-lub and again for tire replacement. Maybe I need to burn a rear tire every 10,000 miles.     

[..]

Joe, I understand where you are coming from. At this time I have 10,818 miles on a rear Metz 880 that has miles left on it, maybe 5 to 6,000. But I keep thinking about "RE-LUB" Drives me nuts.  I will pull rear at a later date to re-lub and again for tire replacement. Maybe I need to burn a rear tire every 10,000 miles.    

Nope, just lube every 10,000 miles. Go longer at your peril

[Willow]

Nope, just lube every 10,000 miles. Go longer at your peril

Honestly. I think this is one of those rumors that gain acceptance and then seem to take on lives of their own.

I get caught in the rain often.  I generally get over twenty thousand miles from a rear tire and I do not open it up to re-lube between tire changes.  I've never found the splines dry.

I have 154,000 miles on my original splines.  I have replaced the dampers and the pinion gear (with driveshaft).  The pinion gear was an issue of neglect on my part and not the result of elongated intervals between servicing the rear end.

[six2go #152]

"Honestly. I think this is one of those rumors that gain acceptance and then seem to take on lives of their own."

I agree Willow. A few weeks ago we posted a pic of my splines with 92,000 miles on them that looked almost new. A lot of discussion followed talking about type of lube, frequency of lubing, and assembly procedure. I have never serviced the splines between tire changes. I had 3 consecutive rear tires last 20,000 miles or more and each time the splines were in great condition and well lubricated.

[fudgie]

Agree with willow and six. I use to relube every tire change when I had Metzlers. They usually wore out at 15k. Everything looked good. Now I do it every spring since I have a NMS tire. Still looked good.

Joe, you should give the Hankook K-106 a shot. I'm on it in my second season, 12,000 miles or so, and cannot even see a wear.

[solo1]

I think that Daniel Meyer was right.  The proper sequence of assembly and the right torque of the bolts
makes the difference.  Mark always uses the Honda service manual recommendations for sequence and torque.  No problems.

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Nope, just lube every 10,000 miles. Go longer at your peril

Honestly. I think this is one of those rumors that gain acceptance and then seem to take on lives of their own.

I get caught in the rain often.  I generally get over twenty thousand miles from a rear tire and I do not open it up to re-lube between tire changes.  I've never found the splines dry.

I have 154,000 miles on my original splines.  I have replaced the dampers and the pinion gear (with driveshaft).  The pinion gear was an issue of neglect on my part and not the result of elongated intervals between servicing the rear end.

Excellent. Live long and prosper 

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Nope, just lube every 10,000 miles. Go longer at your peril

Honestly. I think this is one of those rumors that gain acceptance and then seem to take on lives of their own.

I get caught in the rain often.  I generally get over twenty thousand miles from a rear tire and I do not open it up to re-lube between tire changes.  I've never found the splines dry.

I have 154,000 miles on my original splines.  I have replaced the dampers and the pinion gear (with driveshaft).  The pinion gear was an issue of neglect on my part and not the result of elongated intervals between servicing the rear end.

Excellent. Live long and prosper 

I can tell you at 11,931 miles it was'nt as coated with moly as when I installed it last time...I'm just going to keep usein' these soft compound tires and do mine " around " 10,000 to 11,000 miles.Peace of mind is a wonderful thing 

[Willow]

I can tell you at 11,931 miles it was'nt as coated with moly as when I installed it last time...I'm just going to keep usein' these soft compound tires and do mine " around " 10,000 to 11,000 miles.Peace of mind is a wonderful thing 

Peace of mind is worth a lot.  I've no problem with folks that service their final drives at 10K intervals.  I think it's probably a fine policy.

I do think the the commonly held notion that it's required at 10K intervals is misleading.

Incidentally, I'm not sure I would stay with moly paste.  It seems to have a tendency to harden, but that's another discussion.    

[Super Santa]

I just replaced my Goodyear TT this past Thursday.  I got 35,988 miles out of it.  Truthfully, I only pulled it down and serviced the splines one time somewhere in the middle of tire life.  Still showing no wear and lots of grease still covering everything.

I did put on a Fuzion Ziex 512 this time.  So far I really like this tire better even than the Goodyear TT.  We shall see what a few more miles feels like.  Only ridden about 70 miles so far.

Labor Day weekend heading for the Rune rally in Erwin, Tennessee.  That should give it a good workout.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I can tell you at 11,931 miles it was'nt as coated with moly as when I installed it last time...I'm just going to keep usein' these soft compound tires and do mine " around " 10,000 to 11,000 miles.Peace of mind is a wonderful thing 

Peace of mind is worth a lot.  I've no problem with folks that service their final drives at 10K intervals.  I think it's probably a fine policy.

I do think the the commonly held notion that it's required at 10K intervals is misleading.

Incidentally, I'm not sure I would stay with moly paste.  It seems to have a tendency to harden, but that's another discussion.    

Glad this came up I've been useing the Guard Dog Moly for years ....Yesterday I was buying some parts to do some maintence on my wifes work car and saw this at the local Napa store. Read the label and talked to the owner who has been selling parts since I was a kid...He said " Joe this stuff is the s**t "    ...I'm goin' to give it a try it has a drop point of 500 same as the GD moly.Click the link

http://www.greengrease.net/

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

I can tell you at 11,931 miles it was'nt as coated with moly as when I installed it last time...I'm just going to keep usein' these soft compound tires and do mine " around " 10,000 to 11,000 miles.Peace of mind is a wonderful thing 

Peace of mind is worth a lot.  I've no problem with folks that service their final drives at 10K intervals.  I think it's probably a fine policy.

I do think the the commonly held notion that it's required at 10K intervals is misleading.

Incidentally, I'm not sure I would stay with moly paste.  It seems to have a tendency to harden, but that's another discussion.    

Glad this came up I've been useing the Guard Dog Moly for years ....Yesterday I was buying some parts to do some maintence on my wifes work car and saw this at the local Napa store. Read the label and talked to the owner who has been selling parts since I was a kid...He said " Joe this stuff is the s**t "    ...I'm goin' to give it a try it has a drop point of 500 same as the GD moly.Click the link

http://www.greengrease.net/

That's what I used last time I had the wheel off to replace my tire with the darkside goodyear.