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Author Topic: DYNA Beads  (Read 2933 times)
andym
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« on: October 05, 2010, 06:53:56 PM »

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/chart.htm#MotorcycleChart

The tire chart at the above site does not go to 150 MM for the front tire . I read some folks use 2 oz
in front? The folks on the site say to use 3 oz in rear but the chart at the above link says to use 2 oz for 180 MM rear tire ????? Looking for clarification
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 07:08:00 PM »

I put 2 oz in my front tire when I put them in my tire.  Have worked good. 

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 04:29:12 AM »

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/chart.htm#MotorcycleChart

The tire chart at the above site does not go to 150 MM for the front tire . I read some folks use 2 oz
in front? The folks on the site say to use 3 oz in rear but the chart at the above link says to use 2 oz for 180 MM rear tire ????? Looking for clarification

I have 2 oz in front and 3 oz in the rear tire. .... works for me!  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2010, 09:16:29 AM »

I used 2oz in front & rear and it works fine for me...
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2010, 09:21:08 AM »

I use 2 oz in MC tires and 3 oz in a CT.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2010, 12:53:23 PM »


I forgot to balance my rear tire last time I changed it  Embarrassed

I did a three day ride, unbalanced... it wasn't awful.

Highbinder gave me 2oz of dynabeads, and I've run several thousand miles with them
in there... smooth as silk.

I plan on remembering to balance next time, I didn't like blowing all those little ceramic beads
down the valve stem, and the way I mount tires, there probably wouldn't be any beads left in there
if I put them in first...



-Mike
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 03:32:41 PM »


I forgot to balance my rear tire last time I changed it  Embarrassed

I did a three day ride, unbalanced... it wasn't awful.

Highbinder gave me 2oz of dynabeads, and I've run several thousand miles with them
in there... smooth as silk.

I plan on remembering to balance next time, I didn't like blowing all those little ceramic beads
down the valve stem, and the way I mount tires, there probably wouldn't be any beads left in there
if I put them in first...



-Mike

Hey!!! That's a neat tire stand Mike! Do you have more pics?
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 06:54:33 PM »

That room must be air conditioned bc he is not sweating in that picture!
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 08:36:16 PM »

I want to see the pic where everything broke loose at once and he fell on his.........., but then again - I am a sick bashterd crazy2
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2010, 03:58:44 AM »

i've got 2oz in front, and 3oz in MC rear.  some have told me that you only need 2 in rear tire, but i can't tell any difference. 

i've had dyna beads in my cycle for the last year now, over 8k miles, tires both are wearing nice and even.  i want to put these things in my truck tire!!  that'll give it a nice smooth ride!!
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andym
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2010, 06:13:45 AM »

wow ...thanks for all the feedback. I ordered the 5 oz kit from Honda Directline.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2010, 07:29:22 AM »

When they put them in my motorhome tires, they were in a paper packet and they threw them in and they opened themself. Did you put in special valve stems, or are the Dyna Bead bigger?
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2010, 09:23:06 AM »

2-ozs  package of dyna beads will balance motorcycle tire sizes from size 130-240 with no external weights.  if you run darkside 205 then you need to run 3-oz of beads plus you also need to balance with external weights.  this is from karen at innovative products.  she said this is due to the tire width/height ratio.  if i am going to have to put both beads, and external weights on the tire, then i am going to just balance with external weights.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 09:26:33 AM »

oh......the special valve cores for dyna-beads will not work with the stock 90 degree valve stems from honda.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2010, 04:42:17 PM »

I have the Patchboy 90deg. chrome hard stems front and rear. When I recently replaced the front tire, I told them not to balance it. Then when I got home, I used about 18-20" of clear plastic tubing, slipped it over the stem and over the end of the bead bottle. By raising and lowering the bottle I could control how fast the beads flowed into the stem, no need to be blowing them in. Your breath will create moisture and cause them to stick to the side of the tube. That short piece of tube furnished with the kit is worthless, get a comparable size about 18" long and let gravity work for you. Took about a minute to get them all in....2oz. in front.

Obviously you have to remove the valve core first. Don't laugh....I watched one guy try for 15 minutes to get the beads in his rear tire. I kept trying to tell him what's wrong but he was so PO'd he wouldn't listen, so I just walked away. He ended up throwing the whole kit away and having the wheel balanced with weights. As has been stated before: some learn by reading, some by listening, others still have to pee on the electric fence. This dude failed the first two, was amusing to watch though....but my ears kinda hurt for a while following.  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2010, 07:02:11 PM »

There was posted here about a bulk purchase of the ceramic beads (dyna beads) 5#, $60 + $10 for shipping.

I went out to my local Plastic Shop, bought a bottle with a tappered end, a lenght of plastic hose that would fit over my valve stem, and used this to fill my front MC tire with 2 oz of beads. About $3.

The beads are .8 - 1.0 mm dia. They are a lot smaller than I first thought. I used a kitchen scale that would way in oz, zeroed with a baggie on it, then added beads till I reached the 2 & 3 oz I needed for my bike.

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2010, 04:49:09 AM »


I forgot to balance my rear tire last time I changed it  Embarrassed

I did a three day ride, unbalanced... it wasn't awful.

Highbinder gave me 2oz of dynabeads, and I've run several thousand miles with them
in there... smooth as silk.

I plan on remembering to balance next time, I didn't like blowing all those little ceramic beads
down the valve stem, and the way I mount tires, there probably wouldn't be any beads left in there
if I put them in first...



-Mike

Hey!!! That's a neat tire stand Mike! Do you have more pics?


Sorry, no more pics... I put down four eye-hooks, put a 5 gallon bucket in the middle, throw the
wheel on top, and cinch the whole thing down with tiedowns... I only use it for getting the second
bead off the old tire. That's the hardest part, I think...

-Mike
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2010, 02:18:26 PM »


Sorry, no more pics... I put down four eye-hooks, put a 5 gallon bucket in the middle, throw the
wheel on top, and cinch the whole thing down with tiedowns... I only use it for getting the second
bead off the old tire. That's the hardest part, I think...

-Mike
No problem LOL! I just think that this is pretty darn neat! You are removing the tire in the opposite direction that it is done on our tire stands. Hats off to you!  cooldude
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GreenLantern57
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2010, 04:13:57 PM »


I forgot to balance my rear tire last time I changed it  Embarrassed

I did a three day ride, unbalanced... it wasn't awful.

Highbinder gave me 2oz of dynabeads, and I've run several thousand miles with them
in there... smooth as silk.

I plan on remembering to balance next time, I didn't like blowing all those little ceramic beads
down the valve stem, and the way I mount tires, there probably wouldn't be any beads left in there
if I put them in first...



-Mike

Hey!!! That's a neat tire stand Mike! Do you have more pics?


Sorry, no more pics... I put down four eye-hooks, put a 5 gallon bucket in the middle, throw the
wheel on top, and cinch the whole thing down with tiedowns... I only use it for getting the second
bead off the old tire. That's the hardest part, I think...

-Mike

Pretty neat Idea!
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2010, 07:22:18 PM »

You can get them in five pound jars here. $60 plus shipping.
Got mine! Grin

Thanks to BonS for this find.


"The following is from an email I received from Quackenbush Co. I talked and ordered from Tom Weiss.

The beads they are buying are our QBZ-58A, which is made of zirconium silicate. ZY beads are made of yttrium stabilized zirconia, and they cost a lot more. We can offer our 0.8-1.0 mm QBZ-58A for the price of $60.00 per quart. A quart contains a little over 5 lbs. We have the beads (QZ-58A) in stock.

Quackenbush Co., Inc.
Tom Weiss
6711 Sands Road
Crystal Lake, IL 60014 (USA)
Website: www.quackco.com
Ph: 815-479-8900
Fx: 815-479-8890
----- Original Message -----
From: Bon Shaw
To: quackco@mc.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:28 AM
Subject: 0.8-1.0 ZY beads

I have about three pounds of dynabeads left over.  I ordered a quart from the "real" dynabead inventor.  "innovative balancing" was a client to "Quackenbush Co" who was the original inventor.  I was able to purchase a 2 quarts  (just shy of 10lbs for 130.00 dollars.).  I still have about three pounds left.  The guy at innovative balancing is rude and arrogant, overpriced in my opinion.  And when I called Quakenbush I left a message and Tom called me back and I learned the entire history of how dynabeads were thought up and made.  It was a great conversation and a good ma and pop business is how it started. 

Don't waist your time on spending 13 bucks on 6oz when you can buy a quart (5lbs.) for $60 and will last for a really long time. 
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