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BIBLE JUST READ IT.
How many have truthfully read the entire Bible.
Before you comment think about it.
I have read the whole Bible and the New Testament about 20 times.
Never get tired of it.
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SANDMAN5
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 03:43:30 PM » |
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I've read it all the way thru 2 or 3 times. I mainly read in the New Testament
now, but I keep finding good stuff in the Old also.
The Old Testament is within the New Testament revealed
The New Testament is within the Old Testament concealed
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 06:11:26 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 07:32:39 PM » |
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Yep, I have. Some parts are extremely boring. The rest is very confusing to say the least, too many contradictions. Not my favorite book to read.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 07:44:52 PM » |
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Haven't found any contradictions...have found some parts that didn't seem to fit together until after a lot of studying though.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 02:31:38 AM » |
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There are no contradictions-----The BIBLE interprets itself--BUT, you have to study it-
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 04:41:23 AM » |
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Guesstimate about 1/3 - 1/2 including random chapters here and there. It's quite handy to have an OED around when things get confusing. The English language changes and quite a few words had different meanings in the 15th century when King James had the Bible translated to English. The OED documents different usages through the centuries and looking up some words has cleared up a few things for me that made no sense given current usage. The prose is beautiful. There are now quite a few complete and searchable versions available online...free of course  One of the first I found some years back: http://www.bartleby.com/108/Another: http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/ |
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 05:28:01 AM » |
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Yep, I have. Some parts are extremely boring. The rest is very confusing to say the least, too many contradictions. Not my favorite book to read. Name a couple of those contradictions. I'm not aware of any. Maybe somebody here can 'splain them to you. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2010, 06:48:50 AM » |
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Which version(s)?
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2010, 08:54:38 AM » |
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I knew a man once who was all excited about learning greek and hebrew so he could get down to the basics and understand each word as it was written, He studied for years and finally learned it all. When he was done he reliazed that you meet the same Jesus in greek and hebrew as you do in english! |
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2010, 09:04:45 AM » |
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I have tried, but it's very very hard for me to read and focus on.
If the bible interpreted itself... why are there so many interpretations?
I know... everyone else's is WRONG.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2010, 09:19:06 AM » |
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Jabba consider it like a big buffet. If you can believe Wiki, they show 3800 different denomonations. If only Baskin Robins had so many flavors. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2010, 09:23:52 AM » |
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For anyone who is serious about studying the Bible and understanding what they read here is a web site where you can download not only the Bible itself but many good commentaries as well. http://www.e-sword.net/It is free and well worth the time and effort if you really want to know God and His will for your life. Enjoy |
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2010, 09:49:05 AM » |
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I have read both the OT and NT. I have also read the Book of Mormon and associated books/documents as well as the Koran (Qu'ran). Any other scripture I should be reading?
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2010, 12:50:14 PM » |
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Bits and snatches. I havent read it cover to cover but I've read a bit.
Also Mormon and a Gita.
What I get out of all of em is that just be a good person.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2010, 05:36:39 PM » |
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Yeah, I've read it. I decide that since I'm not Jewish it doesn't apply.
I find lots of contradictions for anyone who is not.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2010, 10:00:52 PM » |
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I read it, study it, practice it and teach it on a regualr and ongoing basis. Our church offers a 4 year fully acredited bible school as well as a 3 year non-acredited bible school. Our 4 year bible school is taught in several countries on multiple continents. Our church is a Spirit filled missions oriented non-denominational church where bible doctrine, not church doctrine is preached, taught and lived out.
I have a wonderful pastor, Rev. Edward Weiss, who also has a wonderful pastor, Dr. Mark T Barclay, who also has a wonderful pastor in George Evans and Hilton Sutton among others. My pastor's pastor is Dr. Mark T Barclay. Dr. Barclay, in addition to his church in Midland, MI is also a pastor to many, many pastors accross North America and around the world.
All the best,
Mark
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2010, 02:38:55 AM » |
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Can God make a rock so big that even He/She/It cannot move it?
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2010, 04:43:43 AM » |
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Yeah, I've read it. I decide that since I'm not Jewish it doesn't apply.
I find lots of contradictions for anyone who is not. Alph said he found contradictions, too, but he hasn't named any yet. How about you? Tell us of a couple of contradictions. P.S. Maybe you should try reading the New Testament. That's where God's Word is spread to the "non-Jews". |
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2010, 05:29:30 AM » |
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Yep, I've read it, and keep on reading it-the challenge is to apply it on a daily basis.
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2010, 05:55:54 AM » |
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Whats the diff between the OT & NT?
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2010, 06:07:47 AM » |
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It really depends on what the term "Read" you are implying. I read a lot in school many books, etc. But, I must confess I didn't comprehend or retain very much of it. I would read books cause I was "suppose" to and to pass the class. Once the class was over then I moved on.
The Bible on the other hand. I don't read it. I chew on it, study it, question it and learn from it. My mission isn't to read it from cover to cover rather I want to apply what I read and understand more....
With all do respect my comment is not met to offend anyone rather I just wanted to point out that their is two ways of reading.
Oh.... and good job Al. I will watch your future posts maybe I can learn something that I hadn't known or read before.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2010, 06:31:31 AM » |
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love to read it it has everything history,drama love stories war stories hints and tips --for the daily world and every word of this book is true!!!!
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2010, 06:42:41 AM » |
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Whats the diff between the OT & NT? One word----JESUS!! |
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2010, 12:22:38 PM » |
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Whats the diff between the OT & NT? One word----JESUS!! He's in the OT too...just not in the form he is in the NT. |
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2010, 02:53:11 PM » |
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He's in the OT too...just not in the form he is in the NT. Yeah, as far back as Genesis. But He wasn't actually 'here' to fulfill the promise yet in the Old. |
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2010, 04:07:30 PM » |
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Whats the diff between the OT & NT? One word----JESUS!! Covenant, forgiveness once and for all. Grace
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2010, 08:25:02 PM » |
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All things were made by, for and through Jesus, in the OT and the NT. The 6 days of creation...Jesus. Creation of man in their (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) image...Jesus. The voice in the burning bush for Moses...Jesus. The ark building instructions for Noah...Jesus. And so on, and so on. Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end. He wasn't only their at the beginning and will be at the end. He IS the beginning and the end. Contradiction claims by those who don't know or understand the Bible...who cares, why consider it for an instant. All the best, Mark PS - God believes in recycling, He made Adam out of dust. |
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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2010, 02:30:29 AM » |
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Whats the diff between the OT & NT?
One has a pissed off cranky God (Whom I think may have been married too long, no flames please - it's a joke) The other has a happy go lucky forgiving god who is more than happy to pass the family buissiness on to his kid and finally free him up from his obligations after the Divorce and truly enjoy His retirement. (Again, it's a joke people. Take a DEEP breath and chuckle or move on. Don't care) |
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2010, 03:37:54 AM » |
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PS - God believes in recycling, He made Adam out of dust. Thats pretty good. |
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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2010, 05:55:02 PM » |
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Robert, I don't know many people on this forum but from reading your posts you're one of those I hope to meet at some point. Nothing better at a motorcycle rally than sharing what God has done and is doing at your local church. Now if there's a shooting range nearby, even better.  Mark |
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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2010, 01:39:51 PM » |
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Can God make a rock so big that even He/She/It cannot move it?
Nice try. Classic, puerile attempt. Any beginning student of philosophy knows that the rebuttal of such a question is that the two conditions cannot exist -- at least not according to our mortal understanding. Even a beginning student of philosophy would reject the question out of hand as impossible and irrelevant. Still waiting for you to earn that respect from me... waiting.... |
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2010, 04:06:57 PM » |
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Robert, I don't know many people on this forum but from reading your posts you're one of those I hope to meet at some point. Nothing better at a motorcycle rally than sharing what God has done and is doing at your local church. Now if there's a shooting range nearby, even better. Mark Not to steal anyone's handle but OH YEA that sounds good. I hope I can share the wind and word with you if not here then in heaven. |
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Still waiting for you to earn that respect from me... waiting.... Why would I care what you think? You seem to be a little full of yourself. |
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2010, 04:32:28 PM » |
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You mean you are not.
Last communication I got from you was and I quote."I pisseth upon you sir" end quote.
That is a guy who thinks he is above it all.
God used some very simple people to get his message across to do one thing.
Confound the so called wise people, so they would have to humble themselves before him to
get right with him , just like the rest of us, before it is too late.
No disrespect intended and have a nice day.
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2010, 04:58:56 PM » |
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Still waiting for you to earn that respect from me... waiting.... Why would I care what you think? You seem to be a little full of yourself. Well, I, for one, do not think you are full of yourself.  |
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Can God make a rock so big that even He/She/It cannot move it?
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2Ti 2:24 The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 2Ti 2:25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 2Ti 2:26 and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. Isn't that last line so good.  |
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all I know is The Jesus of the Bible radically changed my life!
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