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« on: November 23, 2010, 06:05:01 AM » |
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Does anyone know where I can get the socket like the front turn signals have. I would like to modify the rear to running lights and signals Thanks Chuckie
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SCain
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 06:14:10 AM » |
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Look for another set of front turn signals and put them on the rear. Try Pinwall or ebay.
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vanagon40
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 06:52:26 AM » |
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Brand new, a set of front turn signals from HDL runs $67 to $70 (the Interstate is a little cheaper). You cold probably get part of that back from selling the chrome housings and lenses.
I was able to find used Interstate front turn signals from Pinwall on eBay a year ago for $31.00 plus $11.33 shipping.
Good luck.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 08:32:52 AM » |
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Without trying to sound too picky,,, the rear lights are already turn signals.
So, what you are actually thinking about are to make them running lights also.
Problems with state laws and colors of running lights will apply here. Colors of turn signals are also included.
So be sure your bike will be in compliance to avoid any tickets, instate or out of state.
There has just recently been a thread on this exact subject (color of rear running lights) and how some have solved this problem since there are any number of solutions.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 09:06:39 AM » |
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I agree that more attention needs to be paid to the color of the running lights these days, as police seem to be cracking down on violations they ignored in the past. Most state DOT laws specify that only the color red can be displayed on the rear of any vehicle, with the exception of a blinking amber turn signal, and white backup lights.
Ironically, amber is much more visible, especially in foggy or dark conditions, than red.
Last year we were doing a ride to the East coast. It was dusk, and somewhat foggy as we made our way to our evening destination. A highway patrol car came up on us with his emergency lights on. We pulled over, and he proceeded to issue a ticket to the rider in the lead position. He had converted the stock amber turn signals to running lights by using an 1157 socket, much like what is described here. The officer stated that it is illegal to have amber running lights. He said that he pulled onto the highway almost a mile back from us and could see the amber running lights, and thought it was only one bike. Their policy is to not attempt a traffic stop of four or more motorcycles without backup, but we were already pulling over when he noticed our five bikes. I thought it was ironic that if it weren’t for the better visibility of the amber lights, he would have never known we were there!
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 11:07:29 AM » |
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No big deal. Run red 1157 bulbs with clear lens. I have been running them for years, and all red running lights. Turnsignals do not have to be amber, thy can be red also. YES I checked ! And I have been riding in 46 of the lower 48 states with no problem.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 11:19:24 AM » |
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Go to your local parts store and just buy the socket that has it with the offset tits on the bulbs, then replace it in the light housing..
Then get clear lenses and spray them or paint them with Model red paint.
Works great.
Or like Wizard said, clear lenses and red bulbs.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 05:40:42 PM » |
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I agree that more attention needs to be paid to the color of the running lights these days, as police seem to be cracking down on violations they ignored in the past. Most state DOT laws specify that only the color red can be displayed on the rear of any vehicle, with the exception of a blinking amber turn signal, and white backup lights.
Ironically, amber is much more visible, especially in foggy or dark conditions, than red.
Last year we were doing a ride to the East coast. It was dusk, and somewhat foggy as we made our way to our evening destination. A highway patrol car came up on us with his emergency lights on. We pulled over, and he proceeded to issue a ticket to the rider in the lead position. He had converted the stock amber turn signals to running lights by using an 1157 socket, much like what is described here. The officer stated that it is illegal to have amber running lights. He said that he pulled onto the highway almost a mile back from us and could see the amber running lights, and thought it was only one bike. Their policy is to not attempt a traffic stop of four or more motorcycles without backup, but we were already pulling over when he noticed our five bikes. I thought it was ironic that if it weren’t for the better visibility of the amber lights, he would have never known we were there!
I agree. I have been behind a few friends that converted their bikes to red lenses and running lights, and the signals are difficult to see day or night. And they also had the back off modulator or brakes connected as well and that really was difficult. Sometimes "style" isn't the best for function... so consider your options wisely.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 07:40:56 PM » |
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I have the front type signals mounted on the rear, with clear lenses and amber bulb. I like the look and the ambers are indeed highly visible. It's legal in cali. If I got a ticket for it elsewhere, I think i'd get arrested for telling that cop what a p.o.s. he is. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 08:20:16 PM » |
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I have been behind a few friends that converted their bikes to red lenses and running lights, and the signals are difficult to see day or night.
Of course I have not followed myself, but I believe that with the correct setup, a conversion to running lights, turn signals, and brake lights has to provide more visibility. I could be wrong.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2010, 11:37:06 PM » |
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I recently installed a turn signal conversion kit from Electrical Connectionsn ( www.electricalconnections.com). and am very happry with the result. This is a universal kit, will work on any bike. It makes your turn signals work as running lights, brake lights, and turn signals; really slick! You install a circle of LEDs around your regular turn signal lights. When they act as running lights they are still a yellowish red, blink yellow as turn signals, and glow bright red with brake lights. Take a look at these if you want to at least double your rear visability.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 04:09:41 AM » |
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LED's!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 06:39:01 PM » |
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I have been behind a few friends that converted their bikes to red lenses and running lights, and the signals are difficult to see day or night.
Of course I have not followed myself, but I believe that with the correct setup, a conversion to running lights, turn signals, and brake lights has to provide more visibility. I could be wrong. Quite possibly with the right setup.... but I am not sure what my friend did. But I do know he has the Kury Deep Dish Bezels, and could have poor quality red bulbs or used Testors paint on a clear (or even amber lens).... but they are hard to see. And with him adding the "Back Off" modulator to his brake lights.... at times it might look like he has a turn signal on (but doesn't). I think it could be the sun might wash one light out and give the signal indication on the other. I'm just going by what I see when I ride behind him... and I don't like to all that often.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2010, 07:42:45 PM » |
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I have just replaced my front lights on my standard valk the old ones are in good shape i will let them go for 30 plus shipping.
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