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Author Topic: Ask not what your club can do for you. Ask what you can do for your club.  (Read 6936 times)
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« on: December 17, 2010, 11:26:38 AM »

Here’s the good news:  Valkpilot and I worked up the following list of tools, supplies, and resources that will go into the DFW VRCC Tool Kit.  It can be added to over time when someone identifies another need, but it’s a pretty good start.  Some items have been donated, others purchased, and some of the big ones are on order.  Thank you, flyboy, for starting to fill the kit in such a big way!

Here’s the bad news:  All of the proceeds from the sale of shirts, patches, and flags have been exhausted and we need another $125.00 to pay the balance on the ordered tools.

Here’s the opportunity to step up:  Our club will benefit for years to come if you 1) Contribute cold hard cash toward the balance due on the ordered parts (I accept paypal   Wink   ) OR 2) pick a "Pending" item (or items) from the list, commit to it with either a public post or private email/PM, and add it (or them) to the kit.  Heck, you can even do both.

BTW, we would really like to store the kit in a large piece of motorcycle luggage so it can be transported easily by Valkyrie to wrench parties.  Soooo, if you have an extra / no-longer-needed / got a newer one I like better / won-in-a-raffle  2funny   tourpack that’s just taking up space…  

Tool, Status (Donated, Purchased, Ordered, Pending, Other)
Sync Gauges, Donated - Flyboy
Fork Tool, Donated - Flyboy
Fork Slider Tools, Donated - Flyboy
Needle Nose Pliers, Purchased
Hemostats, Purchased (new, unused, no jokes please  Grin)
Steering Head Tool, Received
Swing Arm Tool, Received
Clutch Tools
  Center Holder Pin Set, Received 1 of 4 so far.  (Evidently, the order filler didn't understand the part number is a set of 4.  When asked about the other 3, the Einstein at the Honda special tools 800 number said, "I don't have an answer for you."  Working the system above Einstein now.)(Update: A very conciliatory Einstein called, apologized, and overnighted the remaining three.  All four received.)
  Holder Plate, Received
  Outer Holder, Received
  Lock Nut Wrench, Received
  Driver Attachment, No Longer Available (but if I can borrow one or get some good measurements and a pic or two, I'll make one)
Factory Service Manual, Donated - Flyboy
Clymer Service Manual, Donated - Flyboy
CD/DVD of Factory Service Manual, Donated - Black Dog (Wisconsin!)
3-Ring Binder of special diagrams, Pending, but Sourced (Thanks Valkpilot!)
Miti-Vac, Donated - GreenLantern57
27mm Socket (1/2" drive) for rear axle, Donated - Hoghead
27mm Combination Wrench for rear axle, Donated - Houdini
Torque Wrenches (3/8"), Pending - Hoghead
Torque Wrench (1/2"), Pending
1/2" Breakover, Donated - Hoghead
Bearing Puller (wheel), Received
Bearing Press (wheel), Received
Snap Ring Pliers, Pending
Electrical
  soldering iron & solder, Donated - Six Guns
  mini-torch, Possible/Pending - Hoghead
  connectors, Donated - Six Guns
  stripping/crimping pliers, Donated - Hoghead
  multi-meter, Donated from Six Guns & BeeSharp - whoever gets here first
  heat shrink, Donated - Hoghead
  tape & zip-ties, Pending but Sourced (Thanks Valkpilot (inside joke  2funny ))
Lift Adapter, Donated - Hoghead
Luggage to house / transport kit, Donated - Yoda Master
Pleather Saddlebags to house / transport spillover, Donated - Disco

Please remember that this is your club, this is your tool kit, our beasts are getting older, and wrench parties are FUN!
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 12:44:31 PM »

here are a few things off the top of my head I can donate. 27mm Socket, 1/2" breakover, Lift Adapter, varios elect. stuff, crimpers, tape, heat shrink. I think I have a extra mini torch. I will look around prolly have some other stuff. PM me your email and I will help out. Do wee have a date on the Jan wrench party. I told Chris I would be off the 2nd and 3rd weekend of the month hopefully ya'll can do one of those. Smiley
I got to ride about 200 miles today. Sure was cold. Don't buy battery gloves. they suck! Sad
Hope everyones in the messedupplex is well. Looking forward to seeing ya'll soon. Matt
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 01:49:22 PM »

Simply amazing...  15 minutes after my post I get a PM from Black Dog in WISCONSIN!  How great is that???   cooldude   (And no my Texas friends, that is not up in the panhandle somewhere.  Wish it were - there are some really nice folks and really nice riding up there!) 

As soon as we finished corresponding, I check the thread and Hoghead has jumped in with both feet!  How great is that???   cooldude

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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 03:35:41 PM »

Dateline: Frisco
17:30, 17 December 2010

I've received commitments for $75.00 of the $125.00 needed!  $25.00 already hit the PP acct, and $50.00 are on the way.

Thank you. 

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 04:03:59 PM »

Dateline: Frisco
17:30, 17 December 2010

I've received commitments for $75.00 of the $125.00 needed!  $25.00 already hit the PP acct, and $50.00 are on the way.

Thank you. 



I will commit to the last $75.00 needed. Merry Christmas DFW VRCC ~TJ 
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 04:32:36 PM »

I've received commitments for $75.00 of the $125.00 needed!  $25.00 already hit the PP acct, and $50.00 are on the way.

I will commit to the last $75.00 needed. Merry Christmas DFW VRCC ~TJ 

Just send him 50.  Save the remaining 25 for math tutoring.
Sorry, TJ.  Had to say it.

(:

Wow, a guy tries to do something nice, and the only comment he gets is criticizing him.  What kind of people are we, anyway?
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 08:06:45 PM »

I'll toss a 27mm wrench into the mix, I prefer a wrench over a socket when removing the axle.
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2010, 12:29:15 AM »

I've received commitments for $75.00 of the $125.00 needed!  $25.00 already hit the PP acct, and $50.00 are on the way.

I will commit to the last $75.00 needed. Merry Christmas DFW VRCC ~TJ 

Just send him 50.  Save the remaining 25 for math tutoring.
Sorry, TJ.  Had to say it.

(:

Wow, a guy tries to do something nice, and the only comment he gets is criticizing him.  What kind of people are we, anyway?
No more Dublins for Rocketman
27mm? Is that the spark plug wrench. I prefer to use  a 1 1/16th.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 04:36:52 AM »

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27mm? Is that the spark plug wrench? I prefer to use  a 1 1/16th.

That's for the rear axle nut.

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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 08:23:35 AM »

Dave,

 I believe I have an extra soldering iron, solder, and some electrical connectors if you need them. I might have an extra multimeter for the tool kit as well. I'll have to check when I get home from work. I would like to donate those items if you need them.      coolsmiley
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 09:59:27 AM »

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27mm? Is that the spark plug wrench? I prefer to use  a 1 1/16th.

That's for the rear axle nut.


Rear axles have nuts? Next thing you know you will try to convince me there's a pet rooster under the tank. TJ swears up and down there's fluid in them there blinkers. I think he's doped up on the Dublins. :laugh:FYI 27mm is equivalent to 1 1/16th"  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2010, 12:12:35 PM »

  I will put in 25.00 dollars towards whatever tools are needed.  volvobob.  ps, Disco i am out riding today so call me or see me i will have the money on me.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 01:32:43 PM »


Lift Adapter, Donated - Hoghead


 Saaaay,  you didn't happen to commandeer the lift adaptor that Matt was sending me .. did you?

AND - -  what happened to the "homey" made one that you and I put together that was left at ValkPilot's house?  Hmmmm.

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 02:51:44 PM »

Tom.... Valkpilot has your other adapter. When I get the other one back from you I will modofy it and donate it to the club.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2010, 02:54:48 PM »

I've received commitments for $75.00 of the $125.00 needed!  $25.00 already hit the PP acct, and $50.00 are on the way.

I will commit to the last $75.00 needed. Merry Christmas DFW VRCC ~TJ 

Just send him 50.  Save the remaining 25 for math tutoring.
Sorry, TJ.  Had to say it.


(:

Wow, a guy tries to do something nice, and the only comment he gets is criticizing him.  What kind of people are we, anyway?

 :2funny:Rocketman I knew you were just waiting for the right moment (paybacks are a you know what) Grin Grin.
Right after I posted my wife called me and I logged off. I kept running the numbers in my head. Somebody will have fun with this mistake.  cooldude
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2010, 03:17:00 PM »

Hahahaha, yea, someone.  Cheesy

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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2010, 06:33:49 PM »

 " there's a pet rooster under the tank  "       coolsmiley 2funny
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2010, 07:04:06 PM »

Once apon a time there was a giant 6 foot tall rooster in front of the lawn ornament dealer, I always wanted to buy it and put it in my yard, so I could tell everyone that I had the largest pet rooster in Lincoln County!! 2funny
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2010, 08:08:03 PM »

Looks like everything is covered but I will put in $25 for things we may have missed.
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2010, 05:26:27 AM »

Looks like everything is covered but I will put in $25 for things we may have missed.


  Can't imagine what they might do with an untagged contribution  Evil


                                                     

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2010, 10:26:21 AM »

Looks like everything is covered but I will put in $25 for things we may have missed.


  Can't imagine what they might do with an untagged contribution  Evil


                                                     


thats one idea !

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2010, 08:30:03 AM »

 :-XDisco slamming a member of this Board!!!!! "BTW, we would really like to store the kit in a large piece of motorcycle luggage so it can be transported easily by Valkyrie to wrench parties.  Soooo, if you have an extra / no-longer-needed / got a newer one I like better / won-in-a-raffle tourpack that’s just taking up space…  "

Damn it Disco, I clealy resemble that remark. I gleefully, gladfully, willingly donate the dang thing to the local VRCC just to get that specific curse off me. There are many other curses I'll just have to live with, like my friendship with you. I'll lug it over to your fire base in the next couple of days. Let me know when your 'calendar' is open to receive guest.

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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2010, 09:15:59 AM »

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Soooo, if you have an extra / no-longer-needed / got a newer one I like better / won-in-a-raffle tourpack that’s just taking up space…  

Refers directly to you only one of those conditions does, Yoda Master.   Wink   Could apply to anyone who read the thread do the other three...  (quote myself did I just?)  

Thank you very much, JC!  You solved one of the last big needs.   cooldude   If, as it's beginning to look, we have "spillover" tools and supplies, I've accumulated two pairs of Willie & Max pleather saddlebags and will donate the pair that came with my Valkyrie to the club took kit.

Update on Cash:  Hoghead, john, chauffeur, BeeSharp, and one good guy who wishes to remain anonymous have combine for a total of $145 sent to my PP acct.  I've pulled the equivalent out of my pocket and put it in the club bank bag.  With volvobob & Baron chipping in, we'll be at $195.00  Depending on how TJ splits his generous offer between tools and math tutors, we'll be somewhere between $245.00 and $270.00.  I propose that the overage be applied first toward a 1/2" drive Torque Wrench and second toward a 3/8" Torque Wrench.  

Thanks again!  
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2010, 10:13:03 AM »

Yoda-speak very good, Dave. See you soon I will.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2010, 08:58:16 PM »

I do have 2 jack adaptors and 2 jacks. I will donate one of each to the club. The other ones will go to who ever buys my bike.
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2010, 05:08:44 AM »

 I propose that the overage be applied first toward a 1/2" drive Torque Wrench and second toward a 3/8" Torque Wrench.  

Thanks again!  

 Why not just buy ONE 3/8" Torque Wrench and ONE 1/2" adaptor (or vice versa) ??!!  Use the extra $$ for something else.

  Okay Okay..  an adaptor on a Torque Wrench may cause a variance of +/- .0035 critical pounds.

So. Nevermind.

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« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2010, 05:26:56 AM »

 I propose that the overage be applied first toward a 1/2" drive Torque Wrench and second toward a 3/8" Torque Wrench.  

Thanks again!  

 Why not just buy ONE 3/8" Torque Wrench and ONE 1/2" adaptor (or vice versa) ??!!  Use the extra $$ for something else.

  Okay Okay..  an adaptor on a Torque Wrench may cause a variance of +/- .0035 critical pounds.

So. Nevermind.



To say nothing of the delicacy required for something like, say, header bolts.  Hard to control to 7 ft lbs with a 1/2 lug at the end of a 24" lever. Grin
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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2010, 06:49:41 AM »

I have an old Craftsman 3/4 torque wrench that is out of calibration. I think Sears will calibrate and refurbish for a fee. I'll check into it.
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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2010, 07:00:22 AM »

 I propose that the overage be applied first toward a 1/2" drive Torque Wrench and second toward a 3/8" Torque Wrench.  

Thanks again!  

 Why not just buy ONE 3/8" Torque Wrench and ONE 1/2" adaptor (or vice versa) ??!!  Use the extra $$ for something else.
  Okay Okay..  an adaptor on a Torque Wrench may cause a variance of +/- .0035 critical pounds.
So. Nevermind.

If I may interject here:
The more important difference is the usable ranges of the 1/2" vs. the 3/8".  The torque ranges are larger for the larger wrenches, of course.  As such, a 1/4" torque wrench might be more useful than a 3/8", but a more in-depth look at ranges and requirements would be in order.

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« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2010, 07:26:37 AM »

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Why not just buy ONE 3/8" Torque Wrench and ONE 1/2" adaptor (or vice versa) ??!!  Use the extra $$ for something else.

We can do that.  My thought was that it's more realistic to hope one person would donate a Miti-Vac or snap-ring pliers than a Torque Wrench.  But there goes Hoghead again!  If we wind up with enough extra cash from multiple donations, I suggest we aggregate and purchase a bigger-ticket item.  I would go for the 1/2" first for the range and leverage. 

If we opt not to get a 3/8", I'll go for the factory wheel bearing puller.  Getting them out is always harder then putting them in...

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Hard to control to 7 ft lbs with a 1/2 lug at the end of a 24" lever.

You beat me to it, Mark!  Easy fix:  We'll just get a 1/4" Torque Wrench, too!    Cheesy

Re header stud nuts, I've never been able to use just one wrench to install, tighten, and continue to snug over time all the header nuts.  Maybe I haven't figured out the right technique, but for me it's always taken a combo and a socket on an extension with a wobble...  Anyone do it differently???
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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2010, 07:41:26 AM »

No Dave, no other/different ideas, I even have to use an open end wrench on the rear right hand side nut, AND flip the wrench around at that to get those buggers tight.  I was really wondering how the Honda Techs torque those little nuts that have the pipes real close to them.

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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2010, 09:07:01 AM »

No Dave, no other/different ideas, I even have to use an open end wrench on the rear right hand side nut, AND flip the wrench around at that to get those buggers tight.  I was really wondering how the Honda Techs torque those little nuts that have the pipes real close to them.

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I understand that Honda has developed a bio-wrench for this.  You apply a special organic material to the area of the header nut and activate it by softly singing Nat King Cole classics.  It blooms in response, encapsulating the header nut.  As you continue to sing, it twists in ecstasy, turning the nuts in the process.  The life-form squeals as it approaches 7 ft-lbs of torque signaling you to stop singing.  The instructions say to ignore it thereafter.  Heartbroken, it dies of loneliness, shrivels and falls off the header nuts, leaving only small amounts of dust on your shop floor.

I also hear that a similar compound is being developed for the axle nut,  It involves blasting Metallica at high volumes, but they haven't developed a satisfactory technique for deactivating it yet.
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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2010, 09:53:59 AM »

My bad. I didn't mean 3/4. I have a 3/8's drive with 5lb to 75lb range. i will check on getting it calibrated. I agree with the 1/4 also. the smaller things are more critical to torgue correctly. You know we don't know our own strength sometime.  laugh As far as a mighty vac they are pretty cheap at HB. My experience with snap ring pliers is that some are not so good. I have one of the best Craftman makes and still don't really like it, but it has held up really well. If we are going to purchase one we might get some suggestions from some of you. I think we need to check whats in those cigars Valk has been smokin'  2funny
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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2010, 02:42:52 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2010, 03:03:32 PM »

226 results found for 1/4 torque wrench .... ebay           coolsmiley
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« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2010, 03:18:34 PM »

We've made a huge dent in the list cooldude, but the following remain Pending in status.  So, this is a blatant call to redouble our efforts to complete the DFW VRCC Tool Kit by the end of the week.  Can we do it?  I believe we can.

Factory Service Manual, Donated - Flyboy
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2010, 06:42:47 AM »

I have the Clymer and the OEM Shop manual that I will give to the club.
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2010, 07:30:46 AM »

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Flyboy got the redoubled efforts started...   coolsmiley   Who's next?

Thanks, Flyboy!

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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2010, 03:20:45 PM »

699 results found for snap ring pliers           2funny
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« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2010, 07:37:46 AM »

Gratuitous, Last-Minute Christmas Shopping Bump...   Wink
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