Grease the Splines

[Marcel]

Does anyone here use Moly Grease sold under the Honda Brand Name at 60% Molybdenum?

If yes,,,,,,,, how are your results from said grease?

If Not,,,,,,,,,, what do you prefer from experience?

AL

[sandy]

AL : Most folks don't use Honda's paste. It's not waterproof and will not usually last between rear tire changes. If you R&R the tire and regrease, it'll be OK. Most of us have changed to Bel Ray waterproof grease. I regrease mine at rear tire changes (14-17K miles) and still have perfect splines at 117K miles. An online product is Guard Dog moly grease. I have also used Valvoline Durablend wheel bearing grease. It has 3% moly in it. This is what I put on the drive shaft at both ends. Again: perfect at 117K. Here's a shot taken at 112K.

[eric in md]

little guy i use it with marine waterproof grease together 90 thousand still look new .. some of both coat it good clean up grease is better then rusty splines .. ps how you been little guy

[fudgie]

I use it if it strikes me to. Been using Valvoline moly grease for the last 8 yrs. Holds up well unless I put to much on it. Slings off on the rim, but keeps the rims clean till next year when i clean them. 

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I used Green Grease for the first time on my last tire change. When tire time comes again I'll know if it's as good as they claim........

Waterproof Green Grease™ is a professional-grade high performance synthetic polymer grease developed for mining, manufacturing, marine and off-road. Recommended for cars, trucks, boats, trailers, ATV's, motorcycles, mowers, farm equipment and implements - any application up to 500° F.
 

[NITRO]

I also started using the Green Grease this last time and will see how it held up in the spring.

The guy at advanced auto said it was overkill on the cycle. Sounds like just what I wanted!

[R J]

I have found if it is water-proof you is good to go.

We buy front wheel bearing grease (water-proof) from O'Reilly's for the shop and that is what MGM gets when we pull the rear wheel.   It is pulled around 20K and redone, then when the tire is replaced at 38 to 40K, it gets the 2nd going over.     DARK SIDE for close to 8 years now.   242K + change so it has been apart 24+ times.   Splines were in good shape last time apart.

[eric in md]

+1    what joe uses.. thats the stuff

[bigdog99]

i use the Honda stuff, no issues here other than it stains my fingers.

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

I used Green Grease for the first time on my last tire change. When tire time comes again I'll know if it's as good as they claim........

Waterproof Green Grease™ is a professional-grade high performance synthetic polymer grease developed for mining, manufacturing, marine and off-road. Recommended for cars, trucks, boats, trailers, ATV's, motorcycles, mowers, farm equipment and implements - any application up to 500° F.
 

Like Joe my last change I tried the Green Grease and will tell results when seen. 

[alph]

now the tricky question!!!

do you use grease, or paste??

[fudgie]

now the tricky question!!!

do you use grease, or paste??

Grease

[Marcel]

Alph I used the Honda Stuff that comes in a small size Grease Gun Tube.

Shot it out of a gun and I would say Grease is the state of affairs on my end.

Paste would just have more stabilizer in it such as soap in the old kinds of grease.

Guard Dog I believe is considered a paste not a form of grease.

So grease is what most people are using. Paste is out there as a close second.

But I have seen both and either could pass as Grease.

The term grease is used to describe semisolid lubricants. Although the word grease is also used to describe rendered fat of animals, in the context of lubrication, grease typically applies to a material consisting of a soap emulsified with mineral or vegetable oil.[1] The characteristic feature of greases is that they possess a high initial viscosity, which upon the application of shear, drops to give the effect of an oil-lubricated bearing of approximately the same viscosity as the base oil used in the grease. This change in viscosity is called thixotropy. Grease is sometimes used to describe lubricating materials that are simply soft solids or high viscosity liquids, but these materials do not exhibit the shear-thinning (thixotropic) properties characteristic of the classical grease. For example, petroleum jellies such as Vaseline are not generally classified as greases

Molly is usually in a paste form.

But not always, this means you may have to apply them differently. Paste goes a long way.

Grease will require more as far as amount to achieve the same effect.

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Moly Paste Lubricants are most useful in situations where there is a ferrous metal sliding against ferrous metal. The keyword is "sliding", and I might add, sliding at relatively slow speed. Moly (Molybdenum Disulfide)MoSo2 has the molybdenum molecule which has a great affinity for iron & likes to stick to it as a microscopic flake. The Disulfide consists of sulfur & it likes to form a flake on both sides of the Moly flake, thus the two elements form a "sandwich" - a very slippery sandwich because the sulfur will not "stick" to the molybdenum.
Synthetic Bearing grease is designed to work best with ball & roller bearings where the oil in the "grease" forms a wave type of wedge at the leading edge of contact of the ball or roller and the race. The moving wedge is moving like a hamster in a wheel and can't get away. This is a far different situation than trigger & sear rubbing (wiping) contact.
I hope this doesn't sound too much like building a watch when you only asked the time.
By the way, Loctite#51048, a brush-top can, 65% Moly Paste is available thru Enco as catalog model# 505-1197 $23.26 ea. and Loctite #51049 1lb.can, Enco catalog model #505-1198 $37.58 ea. + S&H.
Another source that I use is TS Lubricants, located in Texas: TS-70 a 70% Moly Paste in 8oz. jar $24.70 & 16oz. (1lb.) Jar $38.56 + about $6.80 S&H to my shop in Indiana. Oh, almost forgot, TS Lubricants also sells a 4oz. Moly Paste for $17.65 +S&H. Also be aware that TS sells by weight, not volume, so 8oz. of Moly (a metal) will not equal the volume of the kitchen measuring "cup". 8oz. of Moly Paste will equal, in volume, to about 1/2 "cup", but just a little bit goes a long way when it is only applied in a thin smear.

[highcountry]

I got a can of this which looks like it should answer the mail.  I haven't used it yet but should easily last between tire changes.

http://www.jetlubecanada.com/pages/Marine_Moly.html

It comes in spray cans as well:

http://www.reddenmarine.com/marine-supplies.cfm/lubricants-aerosol/jet-lube-65041/marine-moly-aerosol-12-oz-.html

[alph]

I would strongly advise everyone to make sure that they not only lube their wheel drive spline, but also make sure that their drive shaft, and universal joint receive a lubing once in a while!!  I’ve just replaced my drive shaft, not knowing that it was not receive lubrication from the pumpkin, my two holes were plugged (get your mind out of the gutter you sick-o’s!!)   

[Marcel]

Good point, as I molyed them with a thick layer in and outside the spline and on each end of the drive shaft.

Put a bit of waterproof grease on the small sealed end of the hub where the small bearing is just

inside the sealed area and in the lip of the seal.

Lubed the axle with Belray Waterproof grease.

antiseize is what harley rec. for the axle, may give that a try one day.,

Chap Stick on my lips and a little vaseline on my nose around the nostril area becasue it was cold

out side.

[Momz]

I have been using GD525 for several years on the slpines and the driveshaft at 10K intervals without excessive wear or washout. But Belray waterproof grease should work just as well in all applications.

[czuch]

When they closed the garage here at work they threw away a 5 gallon tub of Mobil 1 synthetic with a pump handle. I put a fitting on it and a 4' whip hose from a grease gun and have a lifetime supply of slickker. Thats what I've been using and its just fine so it seems.
Gotta do the driveshaft soon though.

[Jess from VA]

I don't know you guys... all that stuff looks pretty good to me.  Probably any synthetic is better than any dino, and waterproof is better than non.

However, this gal seems like an expert, and she says her lube is like really, really good.  So now I don't know what to use.

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Actually, I had a tube of Honda moly paste and a tube of synthetic Valvoline waterpoof grease, and I used both together.

[3fan4life]

This is what I've been using for the last couple of years:


http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/grg.aspx





I have no complaints.

[Valker]

This is what I've been using for the last couple of years:


http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/grg.aspx





I have no complaints.

Me too...but for 10 years.