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G-Man
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« on: January 22, 2011, 08:57:55 PM »

Not sure if it is real:


Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?
Did you know that his trial is over? Did you know he was sentenced? Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV or radio, or in the newspapers? No, thought not!
 
But everyone should hear, or read, what this judge had to say.
 
Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court.
 
Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say. After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his 'allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,' defiantly saying, 'I think I will not apologize for my actions,' and told the court, 'I am at war with your country.' 
 
Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:
 
Judge Young:  'Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.
On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the  United States Attorney General.  On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutively.  (That is 80 years.)
On count 8 the Court again sentences you to the mandatory 30years, to be served consecutively to the 80 years just imposed.  The Court imposes upon you for each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 that is an aggregate fine of $2million.
The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines.
The Court imposes upon you an $800 special assessment. The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.
This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes.  It is a fair and just sentence.  It is a righteous sentence.

Now, let me explain this to you.
We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.  We are Americans.  We have been through the fire before.  There is too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect.  Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals.  As human beings, we reach out for justice.
You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether the officers of government do it or your attorney does it, or if you think you are a soldier, you are not-----, you are a terrorist.  And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists.  We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.
So war talk is way out of line in this court . You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've known warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders.  In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and the TV crews were, and he said: 'You're no big deal.'
You, are no big deal.
What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how, tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific.  What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?
I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing?  And, I have an answer for you.  It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.
It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.  Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea.
 It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom, so that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely.  It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf, have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.
We Americans are all about freedom.  Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.  Make no mistake though.  It is yet true that we will bear any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms.  Look around this courtroom.  Mark it well.  The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here.  The day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure.
Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done.  The very President of the  United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.
See that flag, Mr. Reid?  That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer.  Stand him down.' 
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So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets, or read in our newspapers?  We need more judges like Judge Young. Everyone needs to hear or read what this fine judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 09:19:28 PM »

For once, this one is true and accurate...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/shoebomb.asp
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 07:02:09 AM »

G-Man, you wouldn't have heard the Federal Judge's comments on tv because cameras are not allowed in federal court rooms.  It should have been in the papers and tv reporters at least should have referenced it though.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 07:29:12 AM »

Convicted 10/02. Sentenced 01/03.
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ricoman
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 11:20:27 AM »

Excellent point on not hearing any of the comments by the judge.
It would not be expected to actually hear the judge, since the courtroom was closed to cameras, but not reporters.
But I, like you, would have expected to see/hear some coverage of the sentencing comments in the mainstream media.
This makes the point that what we are fed by the media is soley at the discretion of the media without regard to what the public needs to know. I would rather have heard or read about this than hours and pages of coverage about northeast snow storms. This is/was a bit more uncommon.
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Michael K (Az.)
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 11:23:06 AM »

Convicted 10/02. Sentenced 01/03.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 11:48:21 AM »

Excellent point on not hearing any of the comments by the judge.
It would not be expected to actually hear the judge, since the courtroom was closed to cameras, but not reporters.
But I, like you, would have expected to see/hear some coverage of the sentencing comments in the mainstream media.
This makes the point that what we are fed by the media is soley at the discretion of the media without regard to what the public needs to know. I would rather have heard or read about this than hours and pages of coverage about northeast snow storms. This is/was a bit more uncommon.


It seems to have been reported shortly after the sentencing by CNN:

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-01-30/justice/shoebomber.sentencing_1_prison-on-three-counts-american-airlines-flight-courtroom?_s=PM:LAW
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Chiefy
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 12:00:27 PM »

The sentencing was reported by the mainstream media when it happened, in 2003.  No, they didn't go on about it, or read word per word what the judge said.  

Oops, didn't see Bobbo's comments.


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Michael K (Az.)
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 12:26:48 PM »

Aahh, my point was taken! coolsmiley
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