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deadwood
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« on: February 05, 2011, 09:25:35 AM »

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A camping trip I’m thinking of this summer will require me to go about 240-250 miles between gas stations a couple of times.
I usually like to plan for no more than 160-170 miles between stops as this can account for the variables of ethanol, head winds and my right wrist.
So I’d like to carry about 5 gals extra.
I have a cooler rack and have in a pinch in the past put an extra can in the cooler, but the fumes tend to ruin the smell of cooler for a long time. (I don’t like my bacon and eggs smelling like gas in the morning.)
I know about the aux tank mod but don’t want to spend the time/money for a one time trip.
So I’m thinking of getting a set of rails for the top of my saddle bags and strap a can to the top of each of them just for the long distance portions of the trip. (The trunk rack is also an option but I already have an extra bag going on it)
Anybody have a source for I/S specific saddle bag top rails?
Anybody have a more elegant solution?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 10:28:50 AM »

I have the Hondaline racks on the lids of my saddlebags and I would not want to strap anything very heavy to them-I think the lids would crack at the mounting points. Rather than spending money on the racks you might buy a couple 2.5 gallon plastic cans, glue thick foam to the bottom to rest on the saddlebag lids, and fabricate a bracket to connect the cans and attach to the bike.
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deadwood
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 12:14:07 PM »

Hmmm, That tour tank may be an option, if I can just find some place to mount it.

Thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 01:06:05 PM »

If you ride solo you could fabricate a rack over the rear seat for the Tour Tank. I've seen red plastic jerry cans bungied on the rear seat, as well. I keep a gallon of gas in each saddlebag in small jerry cans for long trips, you could put 2 in each bag if you don't need the room for gear.
The trunk and each bag is limited to 20 lbs, and gas weighs around 6 lb per gal, so juggle it for safety.
I've never searched, but see if you can find collapsible fuel bladders so you don't have to use all that space until you need the extra fuel.
Or you could install a Belly Tank:
http://www.rmworksinc.com/
3 gal for normal exhaust, 2.5 for Cobra pipes.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 01:52:38 PM »

If you ride solo you could fabricate a rack over the rear seat for the Tour Tank. I've seen red plastic jerry cans bungied on the rear seat, as well. I keep a gallon of gas in each saddlebag in small jerry cans for long trips, you could put 2 in each bag if you don't need the room for gear.
The trunk and each bag is limited to 20 lbs, and gas weighs around 6 lb per gal, so juggle it for safety.
I've never searched, but see if you can find collapsible fuel bladders so you don't have to use all that space until you need the extra fuel.
Or you could install a Belly Tank:
http://www.rmworksinc.com/
3 gal for normal exhaust, 2.5 for Cobra pipes.
Fred.


+1 for the Belly Tank

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 02:02:59 PM »

This what I did for my Iron Butt a few weeks ago. Depending on your fab skills. Gravity feed all the way with a Pingel fuel valve.


Gives me an extra 6 gallon or 180 miles at 80 mph

This is what it looks like packed for a week.

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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 04:42:53 PM »

Hey 5_19, got any pictures and specs of the tank mounting set-up.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 05:05:56 PM »

5_19, how about some details, price, size, manufacturer, so we can compare it to a Tour Tank?
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 05:14:56 PM »

5_19,

Dude that is awesome!

As my wife does not ride and I love to tour, I have often thought or adding a "flatbed" setup similar to that but for cargo only.  hey the rear seat just ends up holding a gym bag anyway.  But something like that with a tour tank rig centered over the rear axle would be the shizzle!  Maybe a plastic mike crate on the rear with a bungie net and one of those reflective triangles tractors use...

Yeah,,,, I can see it now.... (scratches head as he walks away...)
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2011, 06:32:53 PM »

Hey 5_19, I like that tank!  cooldude

for an occasional use what about a RotopaX 2 gallon "Set" Fuel Packs.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 06:54:58 PM »

5_19, how about some details, price, size, manufacturer, so we can compare it to a Tour Tank?
5_19,

Dude that is awesome!

As my wife does not ride and I love to tour, I have often thought or adding a "flatbed" setup similar to that but for cargo only.  hey the rear seat just ends up holding a gym bag anyway.  But something like that with a tour tank rig centered over the rear axle would be the shizzle!  Maybe a plastic mike crate on the rear with a bungie net and one of those reflective triangles tractors use...

Yeah,,,, I can see it now.... (scratches head as he walks away...)

Everything is build by me out of 304L stainless steel. I used it because we use it all the time for work, building sanitary stuff for dairies and it doesn't rust under normal bike use. Tomorrow I will take some pictures of the rack on the back of my bike if y'all like. The fuel tank simply bolts to the rack (which I also build) with 4 bolts.
NOT counting my labor I have about $250 in material in the tank. Pingel with adapter plate at $90. Stainless and sheet metal work $110. Fuel cap $60. Tank is 5.5"H x13"W x 21"L 
When doing the Iron Butt a few weeks ago I would go about 275-280 miles between fuel stops (Maximum allowed is 300) and I wasn't even on reserve yet. Now how cool is that. One fill up in LA I got bad gas, bike ran terrible and used 6 gallon in 120 miles, that was quite a wake-up call. No problem I still had 5 gallon left and went looking for a Chevron with Techron, filled up and everything was ok again!~TJ
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deadwood
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 07:41:12 PM »

Thanks for all the ideas guys.

The last trip I took was 31 days on the road camping out almost every night.

My back seat usually has a duffel bag full of my tent/sleeping bag/ground cover/chair etc.
Trunk has camp stove and cooking gas, cooking gear, fire starters and of course, a cork screw.
Trunk top bag has cloths (could probably do without alot of those) bear spray, medical kit etc.
Right bag has waterproof insulated overshoes, extra gloves, extra visor.
In the left bag I carry too many parts and tools just so I won't need them

So I'm pretty maxed out as far as space.

Will probably go with a couple of these rolled up until I need them and then just bungee them on.
http://www.justgastanks.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=365&products_id=1155
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Ken Tarver
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 07:57:57 PM »

don't put something that heavy on your trunk rack....the lid will crack easily with that much weight. You mentioned a cooler rack, is that on a trailer tongue? If so, put the cooler in the trailer and put the gas on the cooler rack.

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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2011, 08:14:29 PM »

This is how I roll. Not alot of room left.








don't put something that heavy on your trunk rack....the lid will crack easily with that much weight. You mentioned a cooler rack, is that on a trailer tongue? If so, put the cooler in the trailer and put the gas on the cooler rack.

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5_19
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2011, 09:11:27 AM »

This is how I roll. Not alot of room left.

Not really. Since you do not ride two up, you can mount extra fuel tanks to you passenger foot peg brackets. There are manufactures that make foot peg mounted containers. Look on the adventure riders forums. These tanks are not tied into the fuel system you just stop and add fuel to your tank. besides fuel you can carry water or whatever.~TJ
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2011, 09:30:48 AM »

This is how I roll. Not alot of room left.



Deadwood, wheelies are easy also, right.  Evil Kidding. Looks like a plan.  cooldude




don't put something that heavy on your trunk rack....the lid will crack easily with that much weight. You mentioned a cooler rack, is that on a trailer tongue? If so, put the cooler in the trailer and put the gas on the cooler rack.

Ken

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2011, 12:24:46 PM »

Here's a pic of my bike showing how loaded the back is!

I fabricated the rack out of material from Lowes.

Could not feel any difference in handling but I could feel the extra weight.

Round trip from home to the ROT rally in Austin Texas.



Note the vertical supports under the rack.

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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2011, 02:28:25 PM »

Seen folks haul the 2-5 gal cans on their bikes out west. Usually hanging off one side of their luggage. Function over form, unless you care how you look going down the road. 

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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2011, 04:27:20 PM »

One of the Tour Tanks mounted on a solo rack would be ideal if one could figure out a way to attach it securely.  
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 06:05:16 PM »

Just run across this, may be a option.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/bikeads/messages/?start=Start+Reading+%3E%3E
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