Wow! Good landing!

[Serk]

If only all such instances of this sort could end this way...

biker gets rear ended and lands on feet [helmet cam]	powered by Aeva

[Jess from VA]

Notice the driver was not a man?

[..]

Wow what a lucky guy.

Maybe there's a lesson for us there.

Keep one eye in the mirror and MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN ESCAPE ROUTE. Don't stop behind the center of the vehicle in front of you.

I believe if he had seen the vehicle coming he would not have had enough room in front to move forward and avoid the vehicle in front.

I see riders do this every day. Too near to the vehicle in front and they keep to the centre of the lane.

Try this soon. Park your cage in the street and then work out how far back you to need to be to make an emergency manouver to avoid being rear ended on your bike.

That's a drop the clutch and whack the throttle open manouver.

Not a dawdling oh I think I need to get out of the way manouver.

Try it soon, it may save you from harm.

[alph]

clearly it was the van infront of the cyclists fault.  had ALL of his break lights worked maybe the lady in the truck would have SEEN more break lights.  there was ONLY ONE light working on that van.!!!  

[Disco]

clearly it was the van infront of the cyclists fault.

Nope.  It was the careless / inattentive woman in the yellow blouse.  You don't have to see brake lights to know that you're closing distance.

[DIGGER]

come on........that guy didn't have time to do anything.......ha.    In 1998 I had a major crash in a curve on my BMW k bike. I was all broke up.    All my riding friends were like "Man....why didn't you roll.....why didn't you use your front brake......why didn' you etc etc etc......

I tell them "You don't have time to think.....I was riding.....then I was sliding down the pavement."

[Doc809]

Hey Disco, you speak like the voice of experience in this one.  Sorry, did not have to bring that up did I? Love ya, bro. L

[PAVALKER]

clearly it was the van infront of the cyclists fault.  had ALL of his break lights worked maybe the lady in the truck would have SEEN more break lights.  there was ONLY ONE light working on that van.!!!  

I think the impact of the bike jarred the bulb and it appeared to be lit after the accident.   

[..]

Unless a cow falls on me out of the sky EVERY accident I have is my fault.

If you disagree I hope your angels pay special attention to you. 

I'd like to hear arguments that state otherwise with solid examples.

[Disco]

Hey Disco, you speak like the voice of experience in this one.  Sorry, did not have to bring that up did I? Love ya, bro. L

Yeah, this one is very personal, Doc.  It makes me feel hollow to watch the video.  I haven't heard that sound since a couple of minutes before 2:00pm Saturday 26 September 2009. 

If the rider hadn't been so shaken as to have his hands on his knees, I wouldn't have minded seeing him punch her once in the pie hole.  But that's just me and my appreciation of the reciprocated sucker punch.  At least the offender appeared genuinely concerned and actually approached the victim.  My equivalent was too busy pacing the shoulder talking to his wife on his cell explaining how he just totaled her car to bother checking on me.   

Love ya back, L.  Hi to the family. 

[Spirited-6]

I believe if he had seen the vehicle coming he would not have had enough room in front to move forward and avoid the vehicle in front.


NOR THE TIME ! 

[RainMaker]

clearly it was the van infront of the cyclists fault.

Nope.  It was the careless / inattentive woman in the yellow blouse.  You don't have to see brake lights to know that you're closing distance.

Totally agree with Disco.  Doesn't look like the bike had a lot of space for extra brake lights that might have gotten the yellow bloused woman's attention better, and the bike rider, being in traffic, needed to be more aware of his surroundings with eyes in the back of his head, everyone is trying to kill me attitude.  But the accident was caused by the inattention of the woman driving the Scion. 

Britman also makes a valid point.  A similar accident has helped me to be even more attentive at places I never thought I would need to be with escape routes no matter where I am.  I have escaped potential injury a number of times by keeping an eye on those behind me and dropping the clutch and rocketing out of the way of a car that was simply not going to stop in time.  Twice, they hit the car I was sitting behind. The accident was caused by the inattention of the driver in the car behind me, but I was able to get out of the way of the accident that happened.  Disco's accident has reinforced my "defense" because I know I don't ride as well as he does.

Just because the rider walked away does not mean he won't have some back or neck issues from the impact. Prayers of thanks that the rider was not seriously hurt.

RainMaker

 

[Willow]

Wow what a lucky guy.

Maybe there's a lesson for us there.

Keep one eye in the mirror and MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN ESCAPE ROUTE. Don't stop behind the center of the vehicle in front of you.

I believe if he had seen the vehicle coming he would not have had enough room in front to move forward and avoid the vehicle in front.  

Perhaps we watched two different videos.

In the one I watched the rider stopped off center to the right and had plenty of room to maneuver around the mini van.

The collision appeared to have taken place almost immediately after he came to a stop which would indicate it was a vehicle following closely, probably such that it would have been difficult for him to discern in that moment that the following vehicle wasn't stopping soon enough.

I fully support developing habits that will, as much is reasonable, reduce the likelihood of an unfortunate incident, but quite honestly we just don't have the option of controlling all the other vehicles on the road.

YMMV.  I hope you never discover the truth.  

[Serk]

Sorry to bring up bad memories fer ya' Disco...

And, IMHO, if he'd seen the car coming, he woulda tensed up and probably been hurt instead of being able to (It looks like) walk away...

And even if the car in front of him had no brake lights, assuming the brake lights on the BIKE were functional, the (legal) blame would be 100% on the rear driver that hit him.

Now, being a rider, I agree that the vast majority of accidents are avoidable with some forethought and planning, I too try to always leave myself an out. Doesn't mean I always DO that, but I try to stay conscious of it...

[Garland]

Do any of you routinely keep a helmet cam on when you ride? I have thought about getting one myself. Assuming one survives an encounter with a cage it would be nice to have video documentation, especially if the other guy runs.

[Disco]

Unless a cow falls on me out of the sky EVERY accident I have is my fault.  If you disagree I hope your angels pay special attention to you.  I'd like to hear arguments that state otherwise with solid examples.

I agree with you 99.96%, Britman.  Almost every accident can be avoided.  The only way to avoid 100% would be not to ride, and that ain't happening.  I didn't cause my accident.  I failed to avoid it.  If I had been watching my 6, I could have escaped unscathed.  I had room and a paved shoulder to work with.  Something else might get me, but that won't happen again.  My angels were with me that day and kept me off the Valkyrie.  I was on the 'wing and credit most of post-impact success to that fact. 

Britman also makes a valid point.  A similar accident has helped me to be even more attentive at places I never thought I would need to be with escape routes no matter where I am.

+1

Disco's accident has reinforced my "defense" because I know I don't ride as well as he does.

I could say you're too kind, but I'll stick with, "You're delusional!"  Maybe you don't remember how badly you dusted my ace on 4 south of Palo Pinto...  I do...

...we just don't have the option of controlling all the other vehicles on the road.

+1

Sorry to bring up bad memories fer ya' Disco...

No problem, Serk.  My goal is to limit any more "ten seconds of terror" episodes to once every 49 years.  And, like HG says, "So far, so good!".  Hi to the girls.

 

[Jess from VA]

Unless a cow falls on me out of the sky EVERY accident I have is my fault.

If you disagree I hope your angels pay special attention to you.  

I'd like to hear arguments that state otherwise with solid examples.

That is exactly my personal riding philosophy.  I choose to ride a motorcycle which is inherently more dangerous than cages, and it is up to me to avoid everything that happens on the road (cause 'sh!t happens' all the time).  Over the years, I could have had a number of accidents which likely would have been found by the officer on scene to be the cager's fault, and I rode out of them.  

"I am a fighter pilot in enemy territory, and I will pay close attention and be prepared for the unexpected at all times, cause they will kill you if they get the chance "  However I don't ride with an 'attitude,' and am courteous to other drivers (just like in my car), though I am sometimes discourteous to numbnuts who deserve correction.  

Of course the woman driver here was EXCLUSIVELY at fault by law..... and all of us have had many quick stops just like this where we were damn lucky the cage behind us was watching, and stopped short too.  In reviewing the video, this guy had time to sweep around either side of the van before he was hit (right more than left).

This is a perfect example of perhaps the number one danger to riders, along with people turning in front of the rider.

I am always watching for someone following too close in light-to-light traffic, and won't stay in front of a tailgater, and every quick stop in traffic must be reacted to with a quick look behind, while you are also getting on your brakes.  I also don't like staying behind any vehicle tall enough to block my view ahead so I can better see whole lines of cars braking, and not just the one in front of me. Again, based on the video, I would have already been in one of the two other lanes not stopping, and not riding behind the van

[PharmBoy]

You guys don't be too hard on the women.  I, along with Disco, will attest to the fact that men will run over you just the same as the women will.  However, I was not at all surprised to see a woman emerge from the offending vehicle...JTL 

[Jess from VA]

You guys don't be too hard on the women.  I, along with Disco, will attest to the fact that men will run over you just the same as the women will.  However, I was not at all surprised to see a woman emerge from the offending vehicle...JTL 

I realize it happens, especially drunks, but I swear the fairer sex has run me off the road every time, stone sober (so far as was apparent).  My statistical analysis may be just for me, but.....

My motto is "treat minivans like the plague..... give them wide berth and hold your breath going by."