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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-climate-hollywood-20110227,0,3056165.story""Animate these stories!" Ban pleaded. "Set them to music! Give them life! Together we can have a blockbuster impact on the world." in other words indoctrinate the children! Vladimir Ilyich Lenin "Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_about/communist
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 10:46:31 AM » |
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Kind of what they did for "The Greatest Story Ever Told", and the slew of other religious indoctrination movies? 
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 10:53:30 AM » |
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Kind of what they did for "The Greatest Story Ever Told", and the slew of other religious indoctrination movies?  When all else fails, denigrate believers, eh Bobbo? -Mike "one note"
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 11:06:16 AM » |
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Kind of what they did for "The Greatest Story Ever Told", and the slew of other religious indoctrination movies?  When all else fails, denigrate believers, eh Bobbo? -Mike "one note" Nothing has failed... The OP lamented the use of movies and other media to get an unproven or difficult to prove point out to the masses. This is simply an example of such a case.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 11:59:13 AM » |
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"When all else fails, denigrate believers, eh Bobbo?"
I think he is just pointing out reality. For the sake of argument, believe me, there is considerably more evidence for global warming than there is for the existence of God, which, by the way, does not stop me from believing.
I think Christ had something to say to Thomas about that.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 12:05:13 PM » |
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Kind of what they did for "The Greatest Story Ever Told", and the slew of other religious indoctrination movies?  No, not at all. The Christian movement has been in place for, oh let's see, oh yeah, 2011 years. It was doing just fine all that time. It didn't need media to get it's word out. I believe the reason those types of movies were on TV was it was reflecting the mainstream public at that time. "The decline of society as a whole is in direct relationship to the decline of the church." "The more people turn away from God, the more He gives us over to our depravity."
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.....say to those with fearful hearts, "Be strong, do not fear; your God will come, he will come with vengeance; with divine retribution he will come to save you." Isaiah 35:4
I know who wins in the end.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 12:53:10 PM » |
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there is considerably more evidence for global warming than there is for the existence of God
I guess I have to agree with you there... global warming evidence has been collected using the the scientific method, which is the same thing we used to make our nookular plants turn on and to make our space ships rendezvous in orbit. I don't have any interest in trying to use the scientific method to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and apparently little patience with hateful atheists who jump on every opportunity to spit in the eye of a believer...
-Mike "and who was it that brought religion into this thread?"
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 01:38:21 PM » |
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...and apparently little patience with hateful atheists who jump on every opportunity to spit in the eye of a believer...
-Mike "and who was it that brought religion into this thread?"
If you are referring to me, I made comments on the use of Hollywood movies to spread a philosophy (but mostly to make money!). I said nothing about those who believe the movies.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 01:47:29 PM » |
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there is considerably more evidence for global warming than there is for the existence of God
I guess I have to agree with you there... global warming evidence has been collected using the the scientific method, which is the same thing we used to make our nookular plants turn on and to make our space ships rendezvous in orbit. I don't have any interest in trying to use the scientific method to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, and apparently little patience with hateful atheists who jump on every opportunity to spit in the eye of a believer...
-Mike "and who was it that brought religion into this thread?"
the both of u need to stop riding and read a little. global warming is a lie and always has been. it will and is used to control people and make billions for the elitist. even NASA has proven that temps here on earth are cause by the sun's solar activity, always has and always will. man has nothing to do with it. please do some reading http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=7586http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/greening.shtml this book was written in the early '90s and documents the start of the global warming agenda back to the 1960s. a must read for anyone who really wants to know the truth. out of a 100% of the info out there, there is 20% proving or indicating that there is no God, yet there is 80% to prove that there is a God. The sad part is most people only focus on the 20% so that they can continue on their own agenda and sinful path to destruction. here is two non-believers who were so obsessed with putting down Christians and providing proof that they spent yrs studing it in-depth only to find out that they couldn't and is now true believers. http://www.josh.org/site/c.ddKDIMNtEqG/b.4169767/k.F42D/Joshs_Bio.htm He truly believed that Christianity was worthless. However, when challenged to intellectually examine the claims of Christianity, Josh discovered compelling, overwhelming evidence for the reliability of the Christian faith. http://www.leestrobel.com/Bio.phpAfter a nearly two-year investigation of the evidence for Jesus, Lee became a Christian in 1981. how many will actually try to read as much of the bible as they can for just one day, so as to start to understand the Truth?
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 02:05:57 PM » |
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here is two non-believers who were so obsessed with putting down Christians and providing proof that they spent yrs studing it in-depth only to find out that they couldn't and is now true believers. http://www.josh.org/site/c.ddKDIMNtEqG/b.4169767/k.F42D/Joshs_Bio.htm He truly believed that Christianity was worthless. However, when challenged to intellectually examine the claims of Christianity, Josh discovered compelling, overwhelming evidence for the reliability of the Christian faith. http://www.leestrobel.com/Bio.phpAfter a nearly two-year investigation of the evidence for Jesus, Lee became a Christian in 1981. how many will actually try to read as much of the bible as they can for just one day, so as to start to understand the Truth? Wow! Talk about a perfect example of single source circular logic! Oh, yea, and he selling something...  Maybe this tangent should be in a separate thread, but it's here for now. If this guy had studied the Star Wars movies with the same zeal and scientific scrutiny, he would be a Jedi Knight preaching the good of the Force and claiming unmitigated proof that it is real! 
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 03:38:49 PM » |
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here is two non-believers who were so obsessed with putting down Christians and providing proof that they spent yrs studing it in-depth only to find out that they couldn't and is now true believers. http://www.josh.org/site/c.ddKDIMNtEqG/b.4169767/k.F42D/Joshs_Bio.htm He truly believed that Christianity was worthless. However, when challenged to intellectually examine the claims of Christianity, Josh discovered compelling, overwhelming evidence for the reliability of the Christian faith. http://www.leestrobel.com/Bio.phpAfter a nearly two-year investigation of the evidence for Jesus, Lee became a Christian in 1981. how many will actually try to read as much of the bible as they can for just one day, so as to start to understand the Truth? Wow! Talk about a perfect example of single source circular logic! Oh, yea, and he selling something...  Maybe this tangent should be in a separate thread, but it's here for now. If this guy had studied the Star Wars movies with the same zeal and scientific scrutiny, he would be a Jedi Knight preaching the good of the Force and claiming unmitigated proof that it is real!  WOW! u did a lot of reading and study, esp. of 6000 yrs of biblical history in 15 minutes. Its really really sad u are so lost, and don't even know it. U are just intellectually ignorant of biblical history and past knowledge. The Bible says that many are "willingly ignorant" of the Word of God. He has revealed Himself and His will in and through His Word, but many are simply refuse to accept and receive it. Ephesians 4:17-19 Someone has said that "What you don't know won't hurt you". We all know that is incorrect and yet it seems that many people have adopted that philosophy toward spiritual matters. Nothing could be further from the truth! Hosea 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". Spiritual ignorance is a very serious matter. He said that they were "alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them. Too often we equate ignorance with one who is simple-minded or backward. But some of the most talented people in the world, some of the greatest minds in science, are spiritually ignorant. That is a greater deficiency that someone who may be intellectually slow. The Bible says that many are "willingly ignorant" of the Word of God. He has revealed Himself and His will in and through His Word, but many are simply refuse to accept and receive it. (2 Peter 3:3-5) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: http://www.brandonweb.com/sermons/sermonpages/ephesians29.htm
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 05:06:27 PM » |
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global warming is a lie and always has been. it will and is used to control people and make billions for the elitist. even NASA has proven that temps here on earth are cause by the sun's solar activity, always has and always will. man has nothing to do with it.
Global Warming Science = globe getting warmer...
Global Warming Politics = It's Bush's fault...
An ice core from the right site can be used to reconstruct an uninterrupted and detailed climate record extending over hundreds of thousands of years, providing information on a wide variety of aspects of climate at each point in time. It is the simultaneity of these properties recorded in the ice that makes ice cores such a powerful tool in paleoclimate research
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 05:49:05 PM » |
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global warming is a lie and always has been. it will and is used to control people and make billions for the elitist. even NASA has proven that temps here on earth are cause by the sun's solar activity, always has and always will. man has nothing to do with it.
Global Warming Science = globe getting warmer...
Global Warming Politics = It's Bush's fault...
An ice core from the right site can be used to reconstruct an uninterrupted and detailed climate record extending over hundreds of thousands of years, providing information on a wide variety of aspects of climate at each point in time. It is the simultaneity of these properties recorded in the ice that makes ice cores such a powerful tool in paleoclimate research
-Mike
I think global warming politics blames it on industry more than Bush.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 06:08:53 PM » |
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