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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 07:54:05 AM » |
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Yeah, a $150 fine for 10 over or less..... like 1 over. But they don't report it to the ins co. What a load.. how about don't write any ticket for mere 10 over or less (unless in a subdivision)? I cruise the world at 10 over and am never unsafe (not subdivisions).
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 08:02:36 AM » |
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What a way to fund the budget..... sheesh. Next thing you know the Ins Co's will be wanting their cut and getting the government to make it happen.
Hell.... just offer the Officer another option.... $75 in his own pocket if he doesn't write the ticket or report it. Same logic just a different recipient.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 08:14:18 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 09:02:11 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 09:08:13 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 12:42:27 PM » |
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Yeah, a $150 fine for 10 over or less..... like 1 over. But they don't report it to the ins co. What a load.. how about don't write any ticket for mere 10 over or less (unless in a subdivision)? I cruise the world at 10 over and am never unsafe (not subdivisions).
Couldn't agree more. 10 over is accepted behavior in most non residential areas and it should be. I'd rather just pay a speeder tax and get a special license plate which allows me to run 30 over anywhere it's safe to do so. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 01:24:54 PM » |
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well this is fixin to cause a stink....
if they want to let you run 10 over then why is the speed limit 10 less than stopping speed?
if they want to let you run 10 over in a 70 then why not make the limit 80? then get a ticket for lets say 82?
if the speed limit is 70 then i agree that the stopping speed should be anything over that...
if 70 is the limit and you are running 71 then guess what? yep you are speeding, period..ok lets have a calibration limint of lets say 3mph. 73 you get a ticket...
when i was driving i remember when Nixon cut the speed back to 55, now you wanna talk about taking forever getting anywhere..that sucked....
now on the other hand if you cant run the speed limit then you should be in the right lane...
now after all that is said,, i normally run 10 over myself....
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 05:38:06 PM » |
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well this is fixin to cause a stink....
if they want to let you run 10 over then why is the speed limit 10 less than stopping speed?
if they want to let you run 10 over in a 70 then why not make the limit 80? then get a ticket for lets say 82?
if the speed limit is 70 then i agree that the stopping speed should be anything over that...
if 70 is the limit and you are running 71 then guess what? yep you are speeding, period..ok lets have a calibration limint of lets say 3mph. 73 you get a ticket...
when i was driving i remember when Nixon cut the speed back to 55, now you wanna talk about taking forever getting anywhere..that sucked....
now on the other hand if you cant run the speed limit then you should be in the right lane...
now after all that is said,, i normally run 10 over myself....
Couldn't agree with you more. If you wanna dance you have to pay the fiddler. I also tip the scales 10 - 15 over. If i get caught I know the price, so beit. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 05:39:31 PM » |
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well this is fixin to cause a stink....
if they want to let you run 10 over then why is the speed limit 10 less than stopping speed?
if they want to let you run 10 over in a 70 then why not make the limit 80? then get a ticket for lets say 82?
if the speed limit is 70 then i agree that the stopping speed should be anything over that...
if 70 is the limit and you are running 71 then guess what? yep you are speeding, period..ok lets have a calibration limint of lets say 3mph. 73 you get a ticket...
when i was driving i remember when Nixon cut the speed back to 55, now you wanna talk about taking forever getting anywhere..that sucked....
now on the other hand if you cant run the speed limit then you should be in the right lane...
now after all that is said,, i normally run 10 over myself....
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 06:05:15 PM » |
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Well since nobodies vehicle speedometer is calibrated and certified by the state, let alone the large inaccurancies of motorcycle speedos, a trip to court with the proper info usually gets the ticket throw out for that low speed over. This they know, and also know that most will just pay the ticket since they can't get off from work.
so what we have now are the local, state and fed govts knowingly breaking the law and betting that the citizen will not take them to court to prove them wrong. this is the basis of a police state or worst.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 06:58:42 PM » |
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Well since nobodies vehicle speedometer is calibrated and certified by the state, let alone the large inaccurancies of motorcycle speedos, a trip to court with the proper info usually gets the ticket throw out for that low speed over. This they know, and also know that most will just pay the ticket since they can't get off from work.
so what we have now are the local, state and fed govts knowingly breaking the law and betting that the citizen will not take them to court to prove them wrong. this is the basis of a police state or worst.
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Maybe in CA, but here in PA, its your problem of the speedo is off. You take that to court here and the odds are that you will walk out paying the fine and getting a fix-it ticket and you can go get your speedometer calibrated and come back with the receipt and a verification of repair. I gotta tell you guys that all the tales of running 15 over all that time is interesting. Here, you will be popped and their gear is good to 2mi, so they give you 3. If you are not driving like a jerk they might give you 7 over maybe 10 on the highway as long as its with traffic, but you are betting on it. My FIL told my BIL that they will let you go at 10 over, hasn't worked out real well for him so far and he has finally slowed down. If the speed limit is 65, and you are going 70, then you are speeding. It is your choice so live with it if you get pulled over. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 07:32:59 PM » |
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Well since nobodies vehicle speedometer is calibrated and certified by the state, let alone the large inaccurancies of motorcycle speedos, a trip to court with the proper info usually gets the ticket throw out for that low speed over. This they know, and also know that most will just pay the ticket since they can't get off from work.
so what we have now are the local, state and fed govts knowingly breaking the law and betting that the citizen will not take them to court to prove them wrong. this is the basis of a police state or worst.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 07:54:53 PM » |
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Every jurisdiction is different...some times it depends on the prosecutor and sometimes it's the judge or judges. If you travel at any speed,any where you are taking your chances. When pushing the limit (or exceeding) odds get worse. Manhattan Ks adds 78 to 150 dollars of "court costs" to EVERY fine. Red lights and stop signs are 138$. 78court fee and 60$ fine. Outside city limits court cost go up to 93.50 + the fine and those are paid to the county. The county prosecutor will often offer a diversion (pay the money and dont do it again type agreement ) for anything from jay walking to RAPE !
Court staff throughout the area are on mandatory furloughs due to $$$ issues and a diversion is alot cheaper than going to court for everyone!
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 08:02:23 PM » |
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What a way to fund the budget..... sheesh. Next thing you know the Ins Co's will be wanting their cut and getting the government to make it happen.
Hell.... just offer the Officer another option.... $75 in his own pocket if he doesn't write the ticket or report it. Same logic just a different recipient.
Hope he's a motorcycle cop and at least puts it towards chrome.  ...it'll get worse as budgets get tighter ... in MI they're talking about raising the gas tax ... as if the oil companies aren't shafting us enough! |
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2011, 06:00:05 AM » |
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The problem with these "zero tolerance maroons" is that they can't tell the difference between speeding and SPEEDING. For example, running 10 over in a 40 mph zone may be perfectly fine at certain times, not at others. And in Texas, fer sure, people run 80 to 85 on Sunday afternoons from San Antonio to Houston with no issue... except for the d@mn DPS who hand out tickets like shooting fish in a barrel.
Most reasonable people recognize that leeway is required because situations differ. The zero tolerance doofii, IMHO, are a bunch of tight ass, blue nosed, corncob up the arse, tin pot dictators that probably aint getting enough sex. Apologies in advance for the name calling.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 12:48:41 PM » |
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The problem with these "zero tolerance maroons" is that they can't tell the difference between speeding and SPEEDING. For example, running 10 over in a 40 mph zone may be perfectly fine at certain times, not at others. And in Texas, fer sure, people run 80 to 85 on Sunday afternoons from San Antonio to Houston with no issue... except for the d@mn DPS who hand out tickets like shooting fish in a barrel.
Most reasonable people recognize that leeway is required because situations differ. The zero tolerance doofii, IMHO, are a bunch of tight ass, blue nosed, corncob up the arse, tin pot dictators that probably aint getting enough sex. Apologies in advance for the name calling.
Couldn't agree more. Heading to work at 4AM I usually run 20 - 25 over the 40mph country road speed limit. It's just me and the deer and the risk is my own. Headin' home on the same road in the afternoon it's only 5-8 over, same as the school buses run. Too many dogs, kids and traffic to run faster safely. We've had the same program for speeding tickets here for years, we call it "deferment". You can be more than 10 over but you're not supposed to defer more than one ticket in the same year. That program has saved my sons quite a bit of money on insurance payments over the years. The cost to defer here is about double the normal fine and well worth it. A win/win for everyone concerned.  After all, it's all about money. No need to share it with the insurance companies, they don't repair the roads and rough roads are harder to speed on.  |
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