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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 09:50:44 PM » |
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Amazing discoveries has been exposeing them for years--- some may laugh at this ,but it is for real, the Jesuits are behind a lot of it. check out AD . org and see for yourself. also the book of Revelation is telling it to. we need to be looking to the skys for JESUS is soon to return! GOD BLESS
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 12:19:45 AM » |
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I'm watching an overly dramatized video showing photos of people who aren't identified nor do they speak.
Photos and video of crappy supposed UFO and "demon" encounters - witha ll the video cameras in the world why has there never been a good clear CLOSE UP of a UFO?
Then the prats who made this video insert a film poster for "independence Day". What a bunch of bollocks.
The Illuminati are going to whip our butts in 2012 and they've been warning us by making a crap load of movies. What are these people taking???
Now they've mentioned David Icke who is a nut job. Socer commentator to alien expert overnight.
Now a video clip of Bill and George the elder with no sound. Oooh they must be involved cause they are shown in this video.
I'm not going to be able to sleep.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 03:37:25 AM » |
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Agreed Britman. My thoughts exactly. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 05:07:04 AM » |
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That's cute and entertaining. Well I'm not trading in my Valk for an airship yet. The other thing they talk about is Superior beings called Anunnaki that visits the Earth. You see allot things refer to the letter X, like X factor, X men and planet X so on, which supposed to refer to the numeral 10. This refers to the tenth planet Nibiru which enters our solar system every 3600 years. It is suppose to be in our system in 2012 if you believe that stuff. You would be surprised what you find on YouTube. I think it is good old fashion greed for money and power and possessions. Now if you want to believe that a factions want to create fear, confusion, doubt, paranoia and distrust, I'll go for that.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 06:00:07 AM » |
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Coopers book Behold a Pale Horse is a good book to be acquainted with. He was a military man with top secret clearance it was written in the early 90s late 80s after he became a Christian. What I found interesting beyond the normal conspiracy theories was he gives actual numbers of bills that were looking to be passed and if you do a little research you will find that indeed they did pass, more than 10 years later. It kind of adds a bit of validity to what he is saying. It was one of the books I read that started me into looking a little deeper into what was happening. For those that read the Bible it talks about the 4 horsemen that are unleashed to bring havoc on the earth. With the tsunami in Japan that wiped out most of their rice crops and what happening with corn and world events you really begin to understand that the Bible is true.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 06:04:56 AM » |
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With the tsunami in Japan that wiped out most of their rice crops and what happening with corn and world events you really begin to understand that the Bible is true.
MOST of the Japanese rice crop???? WHAT! Where did you dredge this "fact" from. http://stats-japan.com/t/kiji/10665
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 07:20:37 AM » |
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Spring is here, go for a ride. It'll help.
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Aot of guys with burn marks,gnarly scars and funny twitches ask why I spend so much on safety gear
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2011, 07:24:28 AM » |
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WOW!! After watching the movie 2012 over the last few days, interspersed with the daily news and then seeing this expose, it's no wonder that I have R.E.M.s song 'The End of the World as We Know It and I Feel Fine' buzzing around inside my head. The apocalypse has never been so well researched and entertaining.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 08:03:41 AM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, I will set up a PayPal account. Since you will have no need for Earthly possessions, please liquidate all assets, and send them to this PayPal account. Thank You. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 08:14:47 AM » |
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...and what happening with corn and world events you really begin to understand that the Bible is true.
What is happening with corn? We're growing a LOT more of it? ??? Also, what bills are you talking about? Congressional bills? It's not uncommon for those things to take 10 years to formulate, write, re-write, vote on, re-write, delete, add, etc. etc...
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2011, 09:31:09 AM » |
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As for the 2012 stuff: 
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2011, 11:40:05 AM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, I will set up a PayPal account. Since you will have no need for Earthly possessions, please liquidate all assets, and send them to this PayPal account. Thank You.  sending Bobbo $1000.00, it'll be there any day now 
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2011, 12:03:42 PM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, I will set up a PayPal account. Since you will have no need for Earthly possessions, please liquidate all assets, and send them to this PayPal account. Thank You.  sending Bobbo $1000.00, it'll be there any day now  I think you're holding back on me... Cough it up!! 
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2011, 01:08:09 PM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, I will set up a PayPal account. Since you will have no need for Earthly possessions, please liquidate all assets, and send them to this PayPal account. Thank You. I think it's the least we can do for you, Bob. Obviously some of us won't be needing the stuff. Rather than deal with the effort to liquidate and go through PayPal (where you'll be charged a substantial fee) we'd rather transfer the millions right into your primary bank account. For that process we'll need routing numbers and personal information, all your personal information. We will, incidentally, be sending the funds through Nigeria.

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2011, 01:16:55 PM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, I will set up a PayPal account. Since you will have no need for Earthly possessions, please liquidate all assets, and send them to this PayPal account. Thank You.  Sorry,Bobbo. I liquidated and invested it all in tinfoil. I am manufacturing hats with it and I am also seeing an overwhelming demand already! You want to invest as a partner? Think of the tax savings we'll see selling these brainwave protectors after TEOTWAWKI ! 
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2011, 01:24:43 PM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, ... Incidentally, I DO believe the end is near, nearer for some than for others. I'm pretty certain it's less than twenty-five years out for me. For some it may be tomorrow. The "end" is coming for each of us, whether solo or on the group ride.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2011, 01:31:19 PM » |
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For everyone that believes the end is near, I will set up a PayPal account. Since you will have no need for Earthly possessions, please liquidate all assets, and send them to this PayPal account. Thank You. I think it's the least we can do for you, Bob. Obviously some of us won't be needing the stuff. Rather than deal with the effort to liquidate and go through PayPal (where you'll be charged a substantial fee) we'd rather transfer the millions right into your primary bank account. For that process we'll need routing numbers and personal information, all your personal information. We will, incidentally, be sending the funds through Nigeria.

Use PayPal moble... No fees! 
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 02:35:58 PM » |
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Dreamakers post reminds me of what my tattoo artist talks about. He mention the Planet X thing a few months ago. Suppose to happen on the winter solstice. It was quite interesting to hear him talk. When your in the parlor for 5 hours you run out of things to talk about.  Also showed me some videos he made of some secret 'club' all the prezzes/kings/queens belong to. Secret symbols and everyday symbols that mean stuff way back in time before this country was formed. Kinda like the devinci code if you will. Some stuff he talked about really made me thing about stuff I see.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2011, 05:51:00 PM » |
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Dreamakers post reminds me of what my tattoo artist talks about. He mention the Planet X thing a few months ago. Suppose to happen on the winter solstice. It was quite interesting to hear him talk. When your in the parlor for 5 hours you run out of things to talk about.  Also showed me some videos he made of some secret 'club' all the prezzes/kings/queens belong to. Secret symbols and everyday symbols that mean stuff way back in time before this country was formed. Kinda like the devinci code if you will. Some stuff he talked about really made me thing about stuff I see. Fudgie, If you want to get yer paranoid head on research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_GroupThis is some RERAL scary stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 10:47:06 AM » |
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OK,....now how many of you have heard from agents Scully and Mulder lately? Have the Illuminati silencted them,...permanently? 
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2011, 06:16:03 PM » |
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On the other hand, crop production per 100 thousand population is highest in Akita, followed by other prefectures in northern Japan such as Yamagata, Niigata and Iwate. http://www.esri.com/services/disaster-response/japan-earthquake-tsunami-2011-map/nuclear-impact-map.htmlKind of wondering who believes there will be a new world order? As for the end of the world I hope its not soon, I do enjoy riding my Valk and life in general and there have been so many talking about the end and making false predictions that its ridiculous. If Jesus doesn't know when the end is then Im sure thinking that no one else will either. So I take each day enjoy it to its fullest and trust in the Lord. I know where I will go if the next moment is the last thats really all that is important.
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2011, 11:15:23 PM » |
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2011, 12:31:44 PM » |
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truly amazing. it would've taken this country 2 years to repair that damaged road. we have little 2 lane bridges in my neck of the woods that were torn out over a year ago. because according to penndot they needed replaced .road is still closed, bridges arn't even close to being done.
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2011, 01:03:17 PM » |
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truly amazing. it would've taken this country 2 years to repair that damaged road. we have little 2 lane bridges in my neck of the woods that were torn out over a year ago. because according to penndot they needed replaced .road is still closed, bridges arn't even close to being done.
That may be, but you wouldn't like Japanese income taxes. A family earning 7 million yen (about $87,000) pays 2,572,500 yen in taxes. That's $31,826 - almost 37%. That is on top of sales taxes, car taxes, and other taxes. The tax on booze, tobacco, and fuel is also much higher.
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2011, 04:11:40 PM » |
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so explain to me mr. all knowing. what taxes have to do with how fast work gets done. i drive by work sites on our highways everyday..see 2 guy's working and 10 just standing around. you know by goverment standards if we just throw more money at it, it will be better. well we can see the proof of that in our education programs, welfare programs and lots of other programs. the more money thrown at it the worse it gets. so if i get this straight if the goverment confiscated everything i made this country would be better off and everything would get done lickity split. i think the reason Japan is doing so well after the catastrophy is because they have a strong work ethic. they are used to grabbing their shoestrings and pulling themselves back up when things are bad. this country used to be like that. now we have way to many people that could'nt survive 1 day without goverment.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2011, 06:56:24 PM » |
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so explain to me mr. all knowing. what taxes have to do with how fast work gets done. i drive by work sites on our highways everyday..see 2 guy's working and 10 just standing around. you know by goverment standards if we just throw more money at it, it will be better. well we can see the proof of that in our education programs, welfare programs and lots of other programs. the more money thrown at it the worse it gets. so if i get this straight if the goverment confiscated everything i made this country would be better off and everything would get done lickity split. i think the reason Japan is doing so well after the catastrophy is because they have a strong work ethic. they are used to grabbing their shoestrings and pulling themselves back up when things are bad. this country used to be like that. now we have way to many people that could'nt survive 1 day without goverment.
Well, Mr. Know-nothing, high taxes mean you can purchase the equipment and manpower needed to respond quickly to emergencies. Since the Japanese don't have the "grab what you can with minimal effort" attitude prevalent in US society, they are very efficient. Their government controls most large industry, and can direct them do what is needed. I'm not suggesting that we emulate them, since our history and cultures are not compatible with that government model.
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2011, 05:43:45 AM » |
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Bobbo, You stated that a japanese family income of 87K pays 31K in income taxes or about 37 percent of their earnings. Well how does that differ from our income tax strucure?
In 2007 between my income and my wifes income we earned 93K and paid 38 K in icome taxes. All of our cars (3) and motorcyces (10), our house, and everthing we own are paid for (100%).
So where are the Japanese over taxed? We pay more in taxes and can't have the type of Federal response of the Japanese. Remember the post Katrina response debacle? Also this was during the previous presidentail administration.
I don't like when people compare the US to other nations when a disaster happens.
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2011, 07:23:16 AM » |
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Bobbo, You stated that a japanese family income of 87K pays 31K in income taxes or about 37 percent of their earnings. Well how does that differ from our income tax strucure?
In 2007 between my income and my wifes income we earned 93K and paid 38 K in icome taxes. All of our cars (3) and motorcyces (10), our house, and everthing we own are paid for (100%).
So where are the Japanese over taxed? We pay more in taxes and can't have the type of Federal response of the Japanese. Remember the post Katrina response debacle? Also this was during the previous presidentail administration.
I don't like when people compare the US to other nations when a disaster happens.
http://www.libertytax.com/2007-federal-income-tax-rates.htmlAccording to the 2007 tax table above, if your taxable income (minus deductibles) is 93K, your federal tax would be $16,097.50. If your gross income was 93K, your taxes would be even less. Can you explain how you paid substantially more?
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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2011, 08:23:52 AM » |
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Bobbo, You stated that a japanese family income of 87K pays 31K in income taxes or about 37 percent of their earnings. Well how does that differ from our income tax strucure?
In 2007 between my income and my wifes income we earned 93K and paid 38 K in icome taxes. All of our cars (3) and motorcyces (10), our house, and everthing we own are paid for (100%).
So where are the Japanese over taxed? We pay more in taxes and can't have the type of Federal response of the Japanese. Remember the post Katrina response debacle? Also this was during the previous presidentail administration.
I don't like when people compare the US to other nations when a disaster happens.
http://www.libertytax.com/2007-federal-income-tax-rates.htmlAccording to the 2007 tax table above, if your taxable income (minus deductibles) is 93K, your federal tax would be $16,097.50. If your gross income was 93K, your taxes would be even less. Can you explain how you paid substantially more? I take it you are not self employed? Soc. Sec would about make up the difference. Self employed pay BOTH halves of it. MP
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2011, 09:54:57 AM » |
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I take it you are not self employed? Soc. Sec would about make up the difference. Self employed pay BOTH halves of it.
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The figures I posted were for income tax only. The Japanese pay additional taxes on top of that. Even adding FICA and SECA taxes of 15.3% of gross income, that's an additional $14,229. You total is now $30,326.50, and that's based on no tax deductions, which I'm sure you have.
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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2011, 10:11:12 AM » |
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Bobbo, The reason is we have no deductions. And of course we also pay 6% sales tax in MI. We also pay an inordinate amount of property taxes, as we live in Dearborn Hgts. and we also have to pay for Dearborn school taxes. And here in MI, our previous governor had all property owners pay three years taxes for two years to make up for a budget deficit.
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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2011, 10:24:55 AM » |
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Bobbo, The reason is we have no deductions.
You are still nearly $8K short of your stated amount. In your amended reply, you are now adding every tax you can think of to get to the total. Remember, my post dealt with income tax only. My point is that Japan has different cultures and financial systems, and that is how they can respond to disasters effectively. We have a bloated bureaucracy that is underfunded due to the high director to worker ratio, and a general "someone else's responsibility" attitude.
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