QUESTION FOR THOSE WITH A NEED FOR SPEED

[BIG--T]

Please do your best to give me an honest answer. I know it so easy to exaggerrate-at least for me! Like , "yeah I can do 125 in 2nd gear"yada yada yada....

OK: For those with STOCK bikes with aftermarket pipes., shifting @ 7,000 rpm 1-4th, what is your speed @ 7,000 rpm the very intant you shift out of third ?

Keep it real now- we all have Valks!

Thanks for your input

[BIG--T]

I'm in for the night, so I'll have to get back with you. Topping off my tank tomorrow evening with non-ethanol for saturday's ride. I'll let you know tomorrow night.

Thanks Tundra, There used to be several stations around with no ethanol, but gone now. What octane do you run?

[Hoser]

Most Valks are up against the rev limiter by 6500 rpm.  Horsepower peaks for mine at 6200 rpm.  Hoser

[Slammer]

7250 RPM.  A stock Valk has quit making torque way before that.

[BIG--T]

7250 RPM.  A stock Valk has quit making torque way before that.
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Yes I noticed mine was slow going to 6500 to 7000.-but I haven't felt the rev limiter yet or maybe don't know what to expect. On my VTX 1800 when the rev limiter kicks in she just dies until you  change gears, I actually thought something was wrong when I test rode it! Lol

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I never run mine past redline, at least not intentionally . Power seems to fall off around 6000 RPM anyway so I shift by then. Rain here for the next week but I'll try to remember to check speeds at 6000 RPM when the weather breaks. I've got a stock motor with interstate carb springs and Mark "T" pipes made before the crossover was available.

[Titan]

Hmmmm... Actually I've never ridden my bike that hard so I wouldn't have a clue.
Have run it quite fast a whole bunch of times but don't ever redline it through the gears.

[BIG--T]

I never run mine past redline, at least not intentionally . Power seems to fall off around 6000 RPM anyway so I shift by then. Rain here for the next week but I'll try to remember to check speeds at 6000 RPM when the weather breaks. I've got a stock motor with interstate carb springs and Mark "T" pipes made before the crossover was available.
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Thanks for your answer, I shouldn't have pushed it as hard as I did. The redline starts at 6500 and it might be better to shift @  6-6200. What does the interstate carb springs do? Is The crossover like a 3-1 and crossover to the same on the other side? Yeah I've got a lot of questions with this 6! lol
Thanks

[Dogg]

Mine isnt tock but, at 7000 rpm in 2nd gear, Im running around 75. 3rd over 100, closer to 115. but then my motor redlines at 8400 rpm and floats the valves at 8800. but, thats just my bike. dont like doing it tho. much. unless a v-twinkie or a litre bike is gonna try me...

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

 shifting @ 7,000 rpm 1-4th

Thanks for your input

Please someone remind me of this thread if he ever wants to sell his bike and I show any interest whatsoever

[Gator]

Well, my memory is fading a little with this never ending winter, but I seem to recall a fast black 99 IS pulling about 90 mph indicated in 3rd at redline 6500 rpm on the way into 4th. 

[BIG--T]

 shifting @ 7,000 rpm 1-4th

Thanks for your input

Please someone remind me of this thread if he ever wants to sell his bike and I show any interest whatsoever

Don't worry, I'm gonna sell it locally anyway. It just has 8k, probably not broken in yet! This was the first and last time I'll ever hit it that hard. 6k-500 rpm less than tach says will be it.
When a little V Star 1300 almost out ran me, something is wrong- and I just tuned her up today

[BIG--T]

Well, my memory is fading a little with this never ending winter, but I seem to recall a fast black 99 IS pulling about 90 mph indicated in 3rd at redline 6500 rpm on the way into 4th. 

THANK YOU Gator! You answered my question. The I/S is heavier than my 98 Standard and I turned 95 in 3rd so mine must be ok.

Thanks man!

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I never run mine past redline, at least not intentionally . Power seems to fall off around 6000 RPM anyway so I shift by then. Rain here for the next week but I'll try to remember to check speeds at 6000 RPM when the weather breaks. I've got a stock motor with interstate carb springs and Mark "T" pipes made before the crossover was available.
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Thanks for your answer, I shouldn't have pushed it as hard as I did. The redline starts at 6500 and it might be better to shift @  6-6200. What does the interstate carb springs do? Is The crossover like a 3-1 and crossover to the same on the other side? Yeah I've got a lot of questions with this 6! lol
Thanks

I've got a 97 standard. The interstate carb springs (made for a Valkyrie interstate) are supposed to give a performance boast over the stock springs. I honestly can't tell the difference. It's generally well accepted (my viewpoint) that after-market valk pipes with a crossover between the right and left banks increases horsepower. It's a mod I hope to make when I find myself with several hundred extra $$$. It may be a while.

Some bikes scream with ever increasing power right to redline, and thus, force the weak willed (like me ) to take frequent excursions there. In my opinion, the Valkyrie isn't one of them and pulls harder by staying shy of the redline. Highly modified Valks are probably the exception but are beyond my experience.

[BIG--T]

I never run mine past redline, at least not intentionally . Power seems to fall off around 6000 RPM anyway so I shift by then. Rain here for the next week but I'll try to remember to check speeds at 6000 RPM when the weather breaks. I've got a stock motor with interstate carb springs and Mark "T" pipes made before the crossover was available.
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Thanks for your answer, I shouldn't have pushed it as hard as I did. The redline starts at 6500 and it might be better to shift @  6-6200. What does the interstate carb springs do? Is The crossover like a 3-1 and crossover to the same on the other side? Yeah I've got a lot of questions with this 6! lol
Thanks

I've got a 97 standard. The interstate carb springs (made for a Valkyrie interstate) are supposed to give a performance boast over the stock springs. I honestly can't tell the difference. It's generally well accepted (my viewpoint) that after-market valk pipes with a crossover between the right and left banks increases horsepower. It's a mod I hope to make when I find myself with several hundred extra $$$. It may be a while.

Some bikes scream with ever increasing power right to redline, and thus, force the weak willed (like me ) to take frequent excursions there. In my opinion, the Valkyrie isn't one of them and pulls harder by staying shy of the redline. Highly modified Valks are probably the exception but are beyond my experience.

Thanks FRYE, you are right staying shy of the redline. I could feel it losing power the closer I got to the redline. This is the first time I really hit her that hard and the last.
How can I find out more  about the crossover?
Thanks

[Garfield]

I go by the way she feels, and some times she likes it

[Jabba]

They should all be, essentially the same.

It's a function of drive line gear ratio and rear tire diameter.

Unless you have different gears, or a different size tire (Darksiders) that number will be the same.

I don't run mine to 7K either.  Not on purpose.  I have simply missed shifts before where it bumped the rev limiter.

Jabba

[solo1]

I can't remember the Valk's HP and torque curves but IMHO, revving past the peak TORQUE curve buys you nothing.

Just my .02

[Hoser]

I can't remember the Valk's HP and torque curves but IMHO, revving past the peak TORQUE curve buys you nothing.

Just my .02

Here is the curve on a stock tourer....

[Ferris Leets]

My Dyno curve looks (and feels) about the same.  Except that I told the operator to take it to the limiter. I'll have to look at 'em but I think right before 7K it fell off the cliff.  
    Mine peaked at about 6200 with 103hp and 98 lbs.  137 mph.
right before mine they did a Victory Kingpin.  I don't remember the exact numbers but he was in the 70's hp and 60's torque.  143mph.  I don't believe that bike had the power to bet to 120 on the road.  But, it made enough noise to scare a way the wolves on a dark and storemy night.  We were talking right next to the Valk during my runs.
    Sorry got off topic.  Next time I go out I'll give her a run in 3rd just to see.  Need to clean out the winter gunk anyway.  I think it is real close to 90.  4th could get me a bigger ticket than I can afford.

[BIG--T]

I can't remember the Valk's HP and torque curves but IMHO, revving past the peak TORQUE curve buys you nothing.

Just my .02

Here is the curve on a stock tourer....

Thanks Hoser, That says it all!

[Willow]

Just my experience, for what it's worth.

My Standard continues to pull almost to 7500 in third gear which is where my rev limiter is set.  My bike isn't completely stock (whose is?) and it could be the difference of the Dyna 3000.

For those of you overly concerned with the red mark on the tach, have you actually heard of anyone without a supercharger damaging a Valkyrie engine from over-revving?

I really don't want to damage my 158,000 mile bike, but sometimes I look away from the tach and she just gets there sooner than I expected.  

[BIG--T]

My Dyno curve looks (and feels) about the same.  Except that I told the operator to take it to the limiter. I'll have to look at 'em but I think right before 7K it fell off the cliff.  
    Mine peaked at about 6200 with 103hp and 98 lbs.  137 mph.
right before mine they did a Victory Kingpin.  I don't remember the exact numbers but he was in the 70's hp and 60's torque.  143mph.  I don't believe that bike had the power to bet to 120 on the road.  But, it made enough noise to scare a way the wolves on a dark and storemy night.  We were talking right next to the Valk during my runs.
    Sorry got off topic.  Next time I go out I'll give her a run in 3rd just to see.  Need to clean out the winter gunk anyway.  I think it is real close to 90.  4th could get me a bigger ticket than I can afford.

The HP and torque =143mph? Doesn't make sense! I have a twin that I would love to run title for title, I'd like to add a Victory to the stable! BTW, don't get a ticket!!
 
Thanks

[BIG--T]

Just my experience, for what it's worth.

My Standard continues to pull almost to 7500 in third gear which is where my rev limiter is set.  My bike isn't completely stock (whose is?) and it could be the difference of the Dyna 3000.

For those of you overly concerned with the red mark on the tach, have you actually heard of anyone without a supercharger damaging a Valkyrie engine from over-revving?

I really don't want to damage my 158,000 mile bike, but sometimes I look away from the tach and she just gets there sooner than I expected.  

Wow 7500 in 3rd? Can I set my rev limiter? BTW you got one tough bike turning 7500 rpm and 158,000 miles!!

[Jeff K]

Isn't this a math question? With a stock bike with a stock sized tire they all would be going the same speed at a given RPM.

http://jkozloski.com/Links/Honda%20Valkyrie%20-%20Speed%20and%20RPMs%20Table.htm

[BIG--T]

Isn't this a math question? With a stock bike with a stock sized tire they all would be going the same speed at a given RPM.

http://jkozloski.com/Links/Honda%20Valkyrie%20-%20Speed%20and%20RPMs%20Table.htm

Thanks Jeff, I'm about right then

[Big Rig]

Yes but what does that do to your fuel mileage?

[BIG--T]

Yes but what does that do to your fuel mileage?

What fuel mileage?

[Willow]

Can I set my rev limiter?

Probably not.  It's a function of the Dyna 3000.

BTW you got one tough bike turning 7500 rpm and 158,000 miles!!

Not so much.  It's just what Valkyries do.

[musclehead]

I have to shift at 1700 rpms and I'm doing all of 10 MPH in second......... oh you mean my valk! I dunno I never get to ride it 

[Ferris Leets]

My Dyno curve looks (and feels) about the same.  Except that I told the operator to take it to the limiter. I'll have to look at 'em but I think right before 7K it fell off the cliff.  
    Mine peaked at about 6200 with 103hp and 98 lbs.  137 mph.
right before mine they did a Victory Kingpin.  I don't remember the exact numbers but he was in the 70's hp and 60's torque.  143mph.  I don't believe that bike had the power to bet to 120 on the road.  But, it made enough noise to scare a way the wolves on a dark and storemy night.  We were talking right next to the Valk during my runs.
    Sorry got off topic.  Next time I go out I'll give her a run in 3rd just to see.  Need to clean out the winter gunk anyway.  I think it is real close to 90.  4th could get me a bigger ticket than I can afford.

The HP and torque =143mph? Doesn't make sense! I have a twin that I would love to run title for title, I'd like to add a Victory to the stable! BTW, don't get a ticket!!
 
Thanks

Not sure what you mean by it "doen't make sense"  If you mean that that little of each would not get 143 then I agree.  On the Dyno it isn't pushing any wind so speed is just a matter of gearing and rpms.

[lakehunter]

As we all know, Valk speedo's are off, even more off the faster you go.
That said, as to your question, 98 standard with 82k miles, bike has Honda windshield that has a lot of resistance at speed.
Test run, quickly to 105 on the gps @ 6000 rpm in 4th, she pulls very slowly after that ... 125 on the gps in 5th @ 6000 rpm, still pulling. Speedo read 128 in 4th and 140 in 5th.

Have never ran her to limiter to find absolute top speed, this test was enough for me, 

Lakehunter ( Mike )

[czuch]

135 maxxed in 5th. wouldnt get all the way to redline pushin the windshield.
I figured if a javalina ran ouit in front we're were both gonna die.
I also figured the gas wasnt touching the sides of the float bowl.
It was as smoothe at 135 as it is at 35,btw.
As far as the other gears, I'm busy with the road comin up fast so I cant worry about tach stuff.
HAHAHAH

[BIG--T]

Ferris What i meant was the numbers don't add up. HP in the 70s, torque in the 60s= 143 mph? Torque sounds low too. All I can figure it must be geared high and is super light?

[Willow]

As we all know, Valk speedo's are off, even more off the faster you go.
That said, as to your question, 98 standard with 82k miles, bike has Honda windshield that has a lot of resistance at speed.
Test run, quickly to 105 on the gps @ 6000 rpm in 4th, she pulls very slowly after that ... 125 on the gps in 5th @ 6000 rpm, still pulling. Speedo read 128 in 4th and 140 in 5th.

Have never ran her to limiter to find absolute top speed, this test was enough for me, 

You're right, speedos are off.  Yours seems to be a lot closer than most.

Unfortunately so are GPS's when you accelerate.  A GPS will average your speed over several seconds so it lags during acceleration and deceleration.

I'd be surprised if you could reach the rev limiter in top gear.  If you did you'd be be somewhere close to 157 mph and on a steep downhill.

[Ferris Leets]

Ferris What i meant was the numbers don't add up. HP in the 70s, torque in the 60s= 143 mph? Torque sounds low too. All I can figure it must be geared high and is super light?

This is on the dyno.  Just theoretical speed read off the computer.  Not pushing any air or even the weight of the bike.  Just how fast the tire is spinning against the dyno.  Pure Math no real world inconveniences, like wind, passenger, woodchucks in the road.
  That bike probably would have had a hard time getting to 115 on the road.  But it really was loud, so I guess he was happy.  He also probably believed the 143 and went around bragging it up.  Would have a perfect target for a title race.

[BIG--T]

Ferris What i meant was the numbers don't add up. HP in the 70s, torque in the 60s= 143 mph? Torque sounds low too. All I can figure it must be geared high and is super light?

This is on the dyno.  Just theoretical speed read off the computer.  Not pushing any air or even the weight of the bike.  Just how fast the tire is spinning against the dyno.  Pure Math no real world inconveniences, like wind, passenger, woodchucks in the road.
  That bike probably would have had a hard time getting to 115 on the road.  But it really was loud, so I guess he was happy.  He also probably believed the 143 and went around bragging it up.  Would have a perfect target for a title race.

  on the race!