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« on: March 28, 2011, 08:12:59 PM » |
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as they show in Ride Like a pro cause problems with the Valkyrie clutch? They talk about having the clutch in the grey area, your foot on the rear brake a bit and a steady throttle in order to do the slow riding. I've always got off the clutch as soon as possible. I'd hate to damage mine by using this technique. Any comments?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 09:09:04 PM » |
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riding the clutch will eventually ruin any clutch.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 11:25:23 PM » |
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riding the clutch will eventually ruin any clutch.
Just RIDING will eventually do the same. Use it up,wear it out,then make it do or do without.  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 03:01:24 AM » |
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Yes, riding the clutch is using the clutch and additional wear. I don't think it's really a factor, unless you do it all the time (parades). I have used this method ever since I used and practiced with that video. You don't use it all the time, you only use that method when needed. Turning around in a parking lot, or turning around on a narrow road. It sure feels great to have that much control of a big bike, then watch those behind you attempt the same turn around doing a three point turn with their feet (rolling back and forth to jockey the bike around).  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 04:51:38 AM » |
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Your clutch is a wet clutch and is made to be used in the "friction zone" unlike the dry clutches found on cages. Using the clutch like the video shows for short periods of time will not harm it. It might shorten its life a little, but it will still be very long lived. Using the friction zone is a technique for slow tight maneauvers that may be necessary occasionally; not on a regular basis. We show the technique to students using 250cc bikes. Those same bikes have been used for years on parking lots with the clutches being ridden in that fashion with no harmful effects.
Again, it is a technique that is used for those times when you are in heavy traffic and slow tight maneauvering is needed.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 06:19:13 AM » |
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If you don't use the friction zone at very slow speeds you aren't in full control of a motorcycle.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 06:52:30 AM » |
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If you don't use the friction zone at very slow speeds you aren't in full control of a motorcycle.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 07:11:37 AM » |
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If you don't use the friction zone at very slow speeds you aren't in full control of a motorcycle.
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Well said... + 2 Marty |
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 07:21:31 AM » |
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+3 Very well said!
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 07:30:09 AM » |
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Like others have said, riding the clutch for short periods won't reduce it's life significantly. Clutch life is affected mostly by heat, and a wet clutch runs much cooler than a dry clutch when using this technique.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2011, 07:33:24 AM » |
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If you don't use the friction zone at very slow speeds you aren't in full control of a motorcycle.
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Clutch, rear brakes and throttle, all at the same time... if you can balance (I didn't say I could balance  ) you can go .00001 miles an hour that way... -Mike |
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2011, 11:00:06 AM » |
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I do a lot of dirt bike riding... hence the broken collar bone...  When trail riding, I can ride for HOURS using that same clutch technique... in 2nd gear (with short bursts of 3rd). I haven't had to rebuild a clutch yet.... ... ... ... YET!!!! |
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2011, 11:52:41 AM » |
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I have 125,000 miles on mine and I do that RLaP type stuff VERY often. Original clutch.
I teach the MSF classes in Amarillo. We have six 1990 model Honda 125s. They only have about 8-9,000 miles on them, but think: How many laps around a parking lot is that?? They have all survived over 700 classes of beginners whom we TEACH to use the friction zone (A LOT!) and we've never had to replace a clutch.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2011, 01:01:41 PM » |
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If you don't use the friction zone at very slow speeds you aren't in full control of a motorcycle.
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Well said... + 2 Marty Yep! |
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2011, 03:08:45 PM » |
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Thanks for the comments, I'll be using it the moment I can get out onto the roads. Almost warm enough today, 3 degrees above ice by 2 in the afternoon. Just got the video and hope to put it into practice shortly.
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