Viking Exhaust.

[shortleg]

  I donot think that this is going to happen.
I am wondering how to remove myself from this mystery
list.
           Shortleg[Dave]

[dago mooserider]

Yeah, i did the 50.00 deposit. I really wanted the larger header diameter, But it's been awhile and I don't think I can wait any longer. My bike is running a tad lean, I was hoping to get the pipes on and then rejet. Looks like I'll be hitting up markT.

[Jeff K]

Kinda tough to get people on the list. They can't post it here, and there really isn't another place to drum up sales. I had thought about just buying up the remaining sets to get them into production and then sell them off one at a time. But that is quite an outlay of cash.

[Redline +]

Kinda tough to get people on the list. They can't post it here, and there really isn't another place to drum up sales. I had thought about just buying up the remaining sets to get them into production and then sell them off one at a time. But that is quite an outlay of cash.

How many more do we need?

Redline 

[Jeff K]

Kinda tough to get people on the list. They can't post it here, and there really isn't another place to drum up sales. I had thought about just buying up the remaining sets to get them into production and then sell them off one at a time. But that is quite an outlay of cash.

How many more do we need?

Redline 

Not sure, I don't know where the list is

[shortleg]

  Looks like there are a few of us that have given a donation of 50 bucks.
              Shortleg[Dave]

[dago mooserider]

I have not attempted to get the deposit back because I was still holding out hope. I would be shocked if we're unable to get It back. Dude seemed like a good guy and he loves valkyries.

[BIG COUNTRY 23321]

That was actually one of the reasons I decieded not to go on " The List " He was looking for 20 sets to make a production run. At $1500 a set and other Exhaust Options out there for our Valks, I didnt think they would actually get that many people on the list. The $50 Non-refundable deposit x 10 People on the list = $500 for Putting up a few post about a list and still no pipes. I do hope that he is honorable and will refund the people thier money if no production run is made BUT he did put on the Page " Non- Refundable ".

[f6rider]

I gotta believe you find a exhaust shop or fab shop to bend you up a set headers for a valk. For far less than 1500.. You can have custom made headers for a car and the valk would be easier. Bend them into a colllector that would except a glass or ??.
Or just go buy a set of Mark T's with the cross ove, like I did. I love em and they add power as well.

[Jeff K]

I don't think it is panic time yet. But if those of us that do want pipes don't find a way to spread the word, it's going to be an up hill battle. This is one of the problems with owning an out of production bike.

[andy@viking]

  I donot think that this is going to happen.
I am wondering how to remove myself from this mystery
list.
           Shortleg[Dave]

all you have to do it call.

[Jeff K]

Damn, how many sets do I have to buy to get this thing going? 

[Stude]

 Making your own exhaust is not that hard... 1 1/2 dia. FOUR EIGHT INCH "U" bends, two 45 bends and 6' of 4" dia  made from Stainless-Steel all which you can buy for about $600.00 from Wolf Brothers Aircraft in Detroit. Metal cut off saw a welder and a week worth of cutting,fitting and welding. Ceramic Coating will cost you about $175.00 - $200.00

[andy@viking]

Damn, how many sets do I have to buy to get this thing going? 

many jeff.... many.

[DFragn]

To Andy:

I'm curious to understand why Viking' advertising of the Valk exhaust system, back in '06, so clearly implied it was a stainless system.
I believed it, because I know 304 S.S. can be both plated or Ceramic Coated. Imagine my surprise when my cans pitted through from the inside. Not to mention, the headers were carbon steel too.

The only S.S. integral of the system were the clamps, bolts & baffles! The headers & Cans were carbon steel!

I certainly thought I was purchasing a system that would long out last a steel system...

Still have all my receipts totaling $2,800 to Viking over a few months. Not that that does any good once I finally discovered the issue...

[f6rider]

I had done some business with Viking, nothing big, but I was not impressed and wasn't surprised they went out of business..

[bigfish_Oh]

somebody is hiding and shamefull

[Jeff K]

I have several sets of Viking pipes, I even had a prototype set, I never heard anything about them being stainless steel. I must have missed that.
I still have one set in an unopened box from the last run.
Stock pipe conversions don't do me whole lot of good.

[DFragn]

I have several sets of Viking pipes, I even had a prototype set, I never heard anything about them being stainless steel. I must have missed that.
I still have one set in an unopened box from the last run.
Stock pipe conversions don't do me whole lot of good.

A few weeks into installing the Viking exhaust I had a noise issue. It sounded like an exhaust leak in the system that was audible over the volume of the working exhaust. I narrowed it down to a suspicion of a poor weld at the right reducer [3 into one]. Light wasn't helping well enough due to reflections, so I capped the 3 openings & filled the header with water - letting it sit overnight to locate a potential hole in the weld joints.
The next morning the exterior ceramic coating was at least 60% covered in red rust. Which I very lightly removed with a ScotchBrite pad to the ceramic coating.

There was an obscure page on their web site, that was difficult to "stumble" onto, that contained a photo of a non-installed system whose text referenced a "stainless system". It actually took a few minutes of digging around the site to locate that page and info again.
When I first realized the cans & headers weren't stainless there site was still up & running. I went back into the site several months later to either to disprove [to myself] or confirm my understanding of their system construction & materials.

Now, either it was very poorly worded or they at some point in the beginning intended a "Stainless System" and decided otherwise without saying so.

I let it lay because I was so involved with my own business and health issues to deal with it.
To this day I feel slightly "taken".

I too, was not surprised to see them close down for many reasons.
I also let it lay because of who their father was and his connection with the VRCC.

Now I have a set of Viking headers & baffles that may be useful to someone else.
I salvaged the best areas of the cans [cut-offs] to use as tip extensions to my OE system. Which wont last much longer anyway due to the rust through potential. Eventually I'll install AirFlow truck stacks for an unbroken look.

You can see how the poor weld leaked and stained the header at the reducer. I had these items posted for sale on the classifieds, but have since removed the ad.

[98valk]

my set are CRES (corrosion resistant steel the correct terminology, marketed commercially as stainless steel) even though a magnet will attract. How do I know, the set I brought used, the coating was pealing, taking emery cloth to them, revealed the base metal to be somewhat shiney, not what u would see from carbon steel. Had them sandblasted, same thing. Most CRES headers use a 304L material, which does have a higher iron content then other CRES materials. All CRES material has some % of iron in it, hence different levels of magnet pull and some rust under certain conditions.
304L is most likely what they used.
The exhaust tailpipes would/could be something other than 304L since they were chromed. I had to get my tailpipes re-chromed due to peeling, first thing out of my chromer's mouth was, "these are from california", he could tell just by looking at them, due to the base coating of the chrome. State EPA laws restrict certain types of chroming to be done, here in New Jersey, there are no chroming operations happening, EPA made all of those jobs leave the state. The actual work is done in Pennslyania.

And I did business with Viking, never had a problem with them. My SS brake and clutch lines are from them as were some other parts. Great quality, still look great after all of these yrs and they were at a great price. I was sad when they closed shop.

[andy@viking]

I have several sets of Viking pipes, I even had a prototype set, I never heard anything about them being stainless steel. I must have missed that.
I still have one set in an unopened box from the last run.
Stock pipe conversions don't do me whole lot of good.

the systems were never marketed as stainless steel. you must have confused us with someone else. It makes me sad to hear that you and others are happy that viking went out of business. Justin and I did all we could to run the business the best we could....and give every customer the best service we could...most nights staying at the office until midnight or later to get everything done that we had comitted to...even though we closed at 6PM and had to be back at 8AM to open up. It was physically and mentally draining and a very sad day in my life when we had to close the doors.... kind of like losing a family member. It good to see that alot of you still like to kick a person when they are down... Thanks.


This will be my last post over here for a while .....both on this topic and others ... im going to need a cooling off period, before i say something that i regret.

all of you on the list, you know how to reach me.

andy

[MP]

I have several sets of Viking pipes, I even had a prototype set, I never heard anything about them being stainless steel. I must have missed that.
I still have one set in an unopened box from the last run.
Stock pipe conversions don't do me whole lot of good.

the systems were never marketed as stainless steel. you must have confused us with someone else. It makes me sad to hear that you and others are happy that viking went out of business. Justin and I did all we could to run the business the best we could....and give every customer the best service we could...most nights staying at the office until midnight or later to get everything done that we had comitted to...even though we closed at 6PM and had to be back at 8AM to open up. It was physically and mentally draining and a very sad day in my life when we had to close the doors.... kind of like losing a family member. It good to see that alot of you still like to kick a person when they are down... Thanks.


This will be my last post over here for a while .....both on this topic and others ... im going to need a cooling off period, before i say something that i regret.

all of you on the list, you know how to reach me.

andy

Wow!  What a leap.

The post was " not surprised".  That is a far jump to " happy to see them close".  Please reread the post Andy. It did NOT say they were happy you closed.

MP

[Free Pass]

 I have never ever posted to this site until today.  I have been visiting this site for many years now, and I am one of the guys that lurks in the background picking up great tips and information.  Computers are not really in my comfort zone.  I am much more comfortable behind a D8 Cat or other heavy equipment.
 I feel compelled to let you know that I have known Andy and Justin for years, and that they are extemely honest, truthful and stand-up guys.  I have purchased 3 sets of Viking Exhausts, for my 3 other Valks over the years.  I currently am running Viking Exhaust on my Interstate.
 Andy, to show my support for VIKING EXHAUST, I just ordered 2 sets on your website.  Per our conversation, of a couple of weeks ago, this run of 20 will probably be the last.  THEY CAN PAY THE PIPER LATER !!!!!
  Andy, you can't please everyone, don't even try.  There are lots of guys out there who like the small diameter OEM headers w/reworked exhaust.  And that is just fine.  I also ran them in the early years.
 Free Pass

[DFragn]

I have several sets of Viking pipes, I even had a prototype set, I never heard anything about them being stainless steel. I must have missed that.
I still have one set in an unopened box from the last run.
Stock pipe conversions don't do me whole lot of good.

the systems were never marketed as stainless steel. you must have confused us with someone else. It makes me sad to hear that you and others are happy that viking went out of business. Justin and I did all we could to run the business the best we could....and give every customer the best service we could...most nights staying at the office until midnight or later to get everything done that we had comitted to...even though we closed at 6PM and had to be back at 8AM to open up. It was physically and mentally draining and a very sad day in my life when we had to close the doors.... kind of like losing a family member. It good to see that alot of you still like to kick a person when they are down... Thanks.


This will be my last post over here for a while .....both on this topic and others ... im going to need a cooling off period, before i say something that i regret.

all of you on the list, you know how to reach me.

andy

Andy,

My comment "Not Surprised" simply referenced my interpretation that you and Justin were apparently overburdened. Which can be a death nail for a young business.
Without either controlled moderation, ample capitol, ample staffing or all 3 - new entrepreneurs can work themselves right out of business. Doesn't matter how great or realistic a business plan is, it can be a tight rope walk for many start-ups. Too much, too quick, too risky.

I had also provided a benefit of doubt comment with. "It [exhaust ad] may have been just poorly worded."
Product advertising is essentially a contract. Proper content & context must be succinct. Should I have questioned this prior to ordering my exhaust system? Yes, typically I would have. I didn't pursue the issue because of the faith & trust for you guys I had felt with all the business & high regard on this site. Feeling slightly taken is just as much my fault as Viking'.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

I have several sets of Viking pipes, I even had a prototype set, I never heard anything about them being stainless steel. I must have missed that.
I still have one set in an unopened box from the last run.
Stock pipe conversions don't do me whole lot of good.

the systems were never marketed as stainless steel. you must have confused us with someone else. It makes me sad to hear that you and others are happy that viking went out of business. Justin and I did all we could to run the business the best we could....and give every customer the best service we could...most nights staying at the office until midnight or later to get everything done that we had comitted to...even though we closed at 6PM and had to be back at 8AM to open up. It was physically and mentally draining and a very sad day in my life when we had to close the doors.... kind of like losing a family member. It good to see that alot of you still like to kick a person when they are down... Thanks.


This will be my last post over here for a while .....both on this topic and others ... im going to need a cooling off period, before i say something that i regret.

all of you on the list, you know how to reach me.

andy

Andy,

My comment "Not Surprised" simply referenced my interpretation that you and your brother were apparently overburdened. Which can be a death nail for a young business.
Without either controlled moderation, ample capitol, ample staffing or all 3 - new entrepreneurs can work themselves right out of business. Doesn't matter how great or realistic a business plan is, it can be a tight rope walk for many start-ups. Too much, too quick, too risky.

I had also provided a benefit of doubt comment with. "It [exhaust ad] may have been just poorly worded."

You take " Back Water " with style ....I bought alot of parts from them back in the day and never had a problem. I hated to see them close the doors as I know they was a big part of the VRCC back then.

[f6john]

     I never purchased anything from Viking, mainly because while they were in business I was paying off the bike and funds were limited. But the thing I admired most about the business was the fact that they were out there building bikes and developing parts for a less than mainstream motorcycle. I envy their knowledge and skill and I keep a picture of their blown blue bike in my pics file.




    I'm really only pissed because by the time the bike was paid for, Viking was closed and for that I am truly sad.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

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That's a bad ass Valk wonder where it is today ? I like the wheels and wish someone still made affordable custom wheels for the Valkyrie .Below is another Viking Valkyrie.

[Jeff K]

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That's a bad ass Valk wonder where it is today ? I like the wheels and wish someone still made affordable custom wheels for the Valkyrie .Below is another Viking Valkyrie.

That bike is actually owned by a pilot that lives in Canada I believe.

[96valk]

to DFragnWould be interested in the viking headers  Bob

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I've never bought any Viking parts but I've sure admired their work and hated to see them close the doors. The bikes they built that are shown above are stunning.

I think Hollywood had a set of their pipes on his valk, could be wrong but I think so. That was the most "wheelie prone" Valk I've seen. Or maybe, just the most wheelie prone Valk rider I've seen.

[R J]

I have an early set of Viking pipes on MGM and have had no problem.

I did add a crossover pipe in my system and it did add a tad more poop out of MGM by my butt dyno.    WOT now at about 75 to 80, in the top cog, you best have a good grip, cause he will set ya back and try to pull your hands off the handlebars.

[R J]

quote from above:

My comment "Not Surprised" simply referenced my interpretation that you and your brother were apparently overburdened. Which can be a death nail for a young business.
Unquote:

You got it wrong pal, they were not brothers.  Andy and Justin is who I'm referring to.   You might know something else, so if that is the case, I stand to be corrected..

[DFragn]

quote from above:

My comment "Not Surprised" simply referenced my interpretation that you and your brother were apparently overburdened. Which can be a death nail for a young business.
Unquote:

You got it wrong pal, they were not brothers.  Andy and Justin is who I'm referring to.   You might know something else, so if that is the case, I stand to be corrected..

Nope, I'm sure it's me that got it wrong. I made the edit in the post. Thanks for catching it...

[rocketray]

my viking exhaust which i bought used from a vrcc member some 3 years ago that were too loud for his wife on their interstate model have been my/the  bain of every Harley owner in Dallas TX>With the baffles removed and the DYNA 3000 ignition with the  K&N filter pulling into Rick Fairless 's"Strokers" as I hit 8000 rpm on the flat 6 pulling  in and revving it up to---to see the 100's  of dumbstruck and speechless  H-D crowd who snap their pathetic necks spilling their favorite beverage and croning to see what the heck this fire -breathing  monster is coming into their private enclave is priceless -VIKING MOTORCYCLES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  To NOT have their headers on your Valkyrie is heresy!!!With the baffles in the rich melliferous sound of a PREMIUM motorcycle is so expensive sounding  fellow  flat 6 PORSCHE drivers SWOON    SWEAR TO GOD AND HOPE TO  DIE!!!  someone tell me how to post the picture/video of flabbergasted and embarrased"MOTOR COMPANY"[Honda has won how many F-1 World Championships,Indy 500's,Champ Car Championships,CART Championships?]tit/tatto crowd looking the best they can to be San Quinten "LIFER'S" CRINGE when you RAIN[REIGN] on their party'OH yeah there is some outside  minor outside rust/pitting I will hit with the steel wool and and send off to get the ceramic coating-- buy your set and get a LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SALUTE/PRESENT COLORS   VIKING MOTORCYCLE'S   A Family Doctor in Dallas

[DFragn]

my viking exhaust which i bought used from a vrcc member some 3 years ago that were too loud for his wife on their interstate model have been my/the  bain of every Harley owner in Dallas TX>With the baffles removed and the DYNA 3000 ignition with the  K&N filter pulling into Rick Fairless 's"Strokers" as I hit 8000 rpm on the flat 6 pulling  in and revving it up to---to see the 100's  of dumbstruck and speechless  H-D crowd who snap their pathetic necks spilling their favorite beverage and croning to see what the heck this fire -breathing  monster is coming into their private enclave is priceless -VIKING MOTORCYCLES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  To NOT have their headers on your Valkyrie is heresy!!!With the baffles in the rich melliferous sound of a PREMIUM motorcycle is so expensive sounding  fellow  flat 6 PORSCHE drivers SWOON    SWEAR TO GOD AND HOPE TO  DIE!!!  someone tell me how to post the picture/video of flabbergasted and embarrased"MOTOR COMPANY"[Honda has won how many F-1 World Championships,Indy 500's,Champ Car Championships,CART Championships?]tit/tatto crowd looking the best they can to be San Quinten "LIFER'S" CRINGE when you RAIN[REIGN] on their party'OH yeah there is some outside  minor outside rust/pitting I will hit with the steel wool and and send off to get the ceramic coating-- buy your set and get a LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SALUTE/PRESENT COLORS   VIKING MOTORCYCLE'S   A Family Doctor in Dallas

 

[96valk]

To DFragn-----I am Interested in buying your viking headers  Bob  vrcc # 24958 Ph # 541-993-2080

[Farther]

A Family Doctor in Dallas

I thought while reading your post that your keyboard had no punctuation keys but then there was a comma and question mark to dispell that thought.

[ValkFlyer]

A Family Doctor in Dallas

I thought while reading your post that your keyboard had no punctuation keys but then there was a comma and question mark to dispell that thought.

I guess some doctors type like they write. 

Getting back to the Viking thing.  Their bikes inspired me, I was very sorry to see them go, it’s a real shame….a once awesome company!