velocity stacks

[valkyalky]

Can anybody tell me if Honda sold velocity stacks as an accessory for the valkyrie? I bought a set on ebay and when I got them, they were VERY cheap and total garbage. I was wrongly under the impression due to the price that they were the billet aluminum set from Aeromach. Not even close. The seller said too bad, they were a quality product that was purchased from a honda dealer. If that is true, how much would he have paid. Can anybody link me to a location for these cheap imported VC's?

[Bobbo]

Honda never made them.  Were they at least made of metal?

[valkyalky]

Yes they are thin stamped metal with a cheap looking chrome job. I immediatly re bought the aeromack set and plan on selling the others( I have now learned they are available through direct line for 200 bucks I will let them go for 150. I paid 230 for them. I was an idiot.

[art]

Your not an idiot they are a--holes for charging that much for them.I am a machinist an made my own stacks out of solid aluminum.The material dose not cost very much an if they are made mass production its not expesive either.They just charge too much for junk.

[Tundra]

Valkyalky,
  Your answer is yes. Honda did sell them and they still do sell them. However they are produced by "Aeromach", not Honda themselves. They are sold as an accessory, here's the link...
http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=1484&str=2

[MP]

Valkyalky,
  Your answer is yes. Honda did sell them and they still do sell them. However they are produced by "Aeromach", not Honda themselves. They are sold as an accessory, here's the link...
http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=1484&str=2

Are these the good ones, or the cheap ones?

MP

[X Ring]

Valkyalky,
  Your answer is yes. Honda did sell them and they still do sell them. However they are produced by "Aeromach", not Honda themselves. They are sold as an accessory, here's the link...
http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=1484&str=2

Are these the good ones, or the cheap ones?

MP

I could be wrong but I think the Add On brand stacks are made by Aeromach because the same Valk is used for the photo on Directline Parts' and Aeromach's websites.

Marty

[Bobbo]

Valkyalky,
  Your answer is yes. Honda did sell them and they still do sell them. However they are produced by "Aeromach", not Honda themselves. They are sold as an accessory, here's the link...
http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=1484&str=2

There is a big difference in Honda selling them (officially endorsed) and a Honda dealer selling third party items.  If Honda sold them, there would be a Honda warranty and return policy.  Also, you wouldn't have to wonder if it was junk.

[Bobbo]

Yes they are thin stamped metal with a cheap looking chrome job. I immediatly re bought the aeromack set and plan on selling the others( I have now learned they are available through direct line for 200 bucks I will let them go for 150. I paid 230 for them. I was an idiot.

If the eBay seller represented them as Aeromach, or used a picture of the Aeromach stacks, you have a solid reason to file a fraud claim with eBay.  If not, then it's just buyer beware!

[bigfish_Oh]

after looking at the listed, it is saved in my watched items. they say they are Honda Valkyrie stacks, your basis for ebay claim is they are cheap aftermarket, not honda, ebay favors the buyers far too much. you may loose shipping both ways and can still give neg feedback for that and their attitude.

[valkyalky]

Great news. After lots of back and forth bulls__t, I filed a disagreement with ebay AND WON! They sent me a shipping label and will refund all my expenses. All I can say is, the guy was totally unreasonable. He didnt actually lie, but the 6 pictures he took only showed the top portion, the lower inside is where the crappy quality is and distinguishes it from the aluminum billet type. I even offerred to let him keep 50 bucks for his trouble. I told him that I do post on VRCC 's site, and he in fact does sell a LOT of Valkyrie parts. SOOOOO  since it took Ebay to force him to do the right thin and since I told him I was going to put it out there if he didn't try to compromise. I am telling y'all that  YOU SHOULD BE VERRRRY CAREFUL WHEN DEALING WITH POPPO73041, (or anyone on ebay for that matter...)

[Bobbo]

Good job!  I had to file a claim once on eBay, and they handled it in a similar way.  You do have to be careful, and ask questions or ask for more specific pictures.

He is even claiming they are Honda OEM parts in his response to your negative feedback!  Unbelievable! 

[Walküre]

Can anybody tell me if Honda sold velocity stacks as an accessory for the valkyrie? I bought a set on ebay and when I got them, they were VERY cheap and total garbage. I was wrongly under the impression due to the price that they were the billet aluminum set from Aeromach. Not even close. The seller said too bad, they were a quality product that was purchased from a honda dealer. If that is true, how much would he have paid. Can anybody link me to a location for these cheap imported VC's?

Wow. Hate to sound so terrible, but PLEASE, don't EVER bid on anything that 1951fordf2 sells on ebay. EVER!!

I find a problem with just about everything you claim on this auction.

You said it correct - YOU were "wrongly under the impression due to the price"...the starting price was 9.99!!! Now, he may have had a reserve, but that doesn't matter. The reason the price ended up $230, was because YOU bid that!! If only ONE person had bid, then the ending price was 9.99, whether there was a reserve or not. they just wouldn't have sold, if they didn't meet the reserve (I don't know if there is any way for me to see if there was a reserve - it disappears once the reserve is met).

He NEVER said they were made by Honda - he said they were FOR a Honda Valkyrie. here's his description:

UP FOR AUCTION IS A SET OF 6 CHROME VELOCITY STACKS FOR THE HONDA VALKYRIE.

THESE ARE VERY NICE AND THEY LOOK GOOD ON YOUR BIKE,

LOOK AT THE PICTURES.-----SHIPPING TO LOWER 48 ONLY.

And the title? It says:

HONDA VALKYRIE CHROME VELOCITY STACKS---VERY NICE

It doesn't say anything CLOSE to "Chrome Velocity stacks, made by Honda.". Or "Honda Chrome Velocity Stacks".  It says they are FOR a Honda Valkyrie, which is 100% truthful.

It says they are used, and the 6 pictures show them pretty well, even down the throat, which is what ANYone would see, with them on the bike.

Sure seems to me, that you didn't bother ASKING if they were the Aeromach, or even if they were billet. From the pictures, they look very passable, and apparently, there were others who believed they were nice, or there wouldn't have been 15 bids, and the price wouldn't have been $230.

I hate to say it, but sounds like "buyer's remorse" to me - you thought you had gotten the deal of a lifetime, that you found they weren't exactly as YOU thought they were, even though they adhered to what the seller described, now you want to smear his name, on this public venue!! He deals with used parts. You got exactly what the auction said you would receive. YOU decided what to pay for them. And then, take it out on the seller. And to boot, everyone else jumping on the bandwagon!! Looking at his other "completed" auctions, he sold quite a few parts, that looked very good...

Geez...there's a little place on ALL auctions - "Ask seller a question"...you might try that next time. Save a little heartache on BOTH sides...

Here's a post on another forum, about even the Aeromach older sets having some problems...

http://valkyrie-owners.com/SMFORUM/index.php?topic=4327.0

I just don't understand it...

R

[valkyalky]

Well dude what you dont see is the inferior assembly of this product. Did hey say they were inferior imports?. No. Was he required to say that? No.Would a straight up person try to avoid any indication of deception by stating these are stamped steel or at least show the underside? probably. Did I offer him 50 dollars to take them back. Yes. Did I ever say he said they were made by honda? No. I said he claimed to have gotten them from a honda dealer in 1999. DO you believe that? The bottom line is even if every point made was in his favor, and he did NOTHING wrong, I was very dissatisfied and explained why and offerred him a compromise that would have still shown him profit. And he was not  having any of that. APPARENTLY Ebay agrees with me . Either way, if I want to spread the honosyt word that there is a real snotty stubborn a__hole out there (even if he would NEVER lie) that is my priveledge. In the mean time, please review to your hearts contendt and list even one time where I lied or was deceptive in my explaination.. Peace. Oh and by the way I didnt think I was getting a killer deal paying 231 dollars at all, since AEROMACH sells them new for that price. That is why I bought the Aeromach set i hour after this garbage showed up on my doorstep.The price? 225

[Walküre]

Well dude what you dont see is the inferior assembly of this product. Did hey say they were inferior imports?. No. Was he required to say that? No.Would a straight up person try to avoid any indication of deception by stating these are stamped steel or at least show the underside? probably.

No, there was NOthing "deceptive" in his description, whatsoever. He never said it was, or wasn't billet. If he was like me, he wouldn't have known any different. Period. And you had EVERY OPPORTUNITY to question him on it!! You had the same photos the entire world did. And you didn't bother to question it?

Did I offer him 50 dollars to take them back. Yes.

And that is supposed to be ok? When you bid on ebay, you are agreeing to follow through on your winning auction, NOT "make a deal" after the fact. You bought them. Period. You bought them based on the description, photos, and without making ANY attempt to clarify what they were. Apparently, YOU don't know what good ones look like, or the differences, yet you expect the seller to, even after he has accurately described them? And did you ask for more photos? Apparently not....yet, you expect him to change the rules midstream, and jump on your ridiculous offer of $50? That he decided not to, is YOUR problem, not his...well, until you unreasonably MADE it his.

Did I ever say he said they were made by honda? No. I said he claimed to have gotten them from a honda dealer in 1999. DO you believe that?

Actually, I do. I recently bought a battery charger, helmet, and gloves at the Honda dealer. In 10 years, I'll probably remember I bought them there. Are they Honda? No, I don't think so. But my Honda dealer sells a LOT of non-Honda things, such as handlebars, grips, etc, etc, so do you doubt ME when I say I bought stuff at the dealer? From what has been posted, he NEVER said they were genuine Honda.

The bottom line is even if every point made was in his favor, and he did NOTHING wrong, I was very dissatisfied and explained why and offerred him a compromise that would have still shown him profit. And he was not  having any of that. APPARENTLY Ebay agrees with me .

Ebay FOOLISHLY agrees with you - you have broken the rules of ebay. and therefore, so have they. If you squeal and cry enough, I guess they'll bend. "It is a small man indeed, that runs from his mistakes..."


  

Either way, if I want to spread the honosyt word that there is a real snotty stubborn a__hole out there (even if he would NEVER lie) that is my priveledge.

I think you have illustrated yourself very well here, sir, and yes, that IS your privilege. I now have a better understanding of what a "snotty stubborn a__hole truly is...

  

In the mean time, please review to your hearts contendt and list even one time where I lied or was deceptive in my explaination.

Ahhhh!! Finally, a bit of enlightenment!!!!!! Now YOU name even one time where the seller lied, or was deceptive!!!!! You can't because he wasn't. You were unhappy with your purchase, and foolish for not asking more, and want to blame the seller, and cast dispersions on him through this public forum. Perhaps you should look in the mirror, first...

[scoot]

 I would have to agree with Walkure. It seems to me that you had some buyer's remorse (perhaps got caught up in the heat of the moment. From what I read the seller described them just as he felt they were. To someone who doesn't know what they are looking for they were most likely nice.
 The only question that comes to my mind is, Why would you bid up to $200+ for any parts that were bought over 10 years ago knowing you can buy the same thing brand new for the same price.

[Walküre]

 The only question that comes to my mind is, Why would you bid up to $200+ for any parts that were bought over 10 years ago knowing you can buy the same thing brand new for the same price.

Thanks, scoot. Nice to not feel totally alone.

I have one more ?. If you are 100% honest with yourself, and you HAD won the auction, for starting bid of $9.99, would you have offered the $50 to return them? Or would you have kept them? Honesty, here, remember??

R

[f6rider]

I recently purchased a set of tube toppers off ebay. I asssumed they were rattle bars.. I didnt know anyone else made them.
When I got them I found that they were really thin and I just couldnt get them to stay on.. Very poor quality.
He did refund my money.

[Jess Tolbirt]

I too will have to agree with Walküre,,,
Ebay charges a final value fee of 20%,, at least thats what they charged me to sell my keyboard,,,
Then pay pal gets their 10% for the transaction,,
if it would have been me i would have simply put them on ebay and sold them to some one else and taken my losses,,I would never give anyone a neg feedback unless it was just plain deceptive trade practices,,,I have 100% positive and plan to keep it that way,,,
i see no deception here,,,

[Valkahuna]

Walkure, though I don't agree with you all the time, I do on this one!

So Roger, don't feel "all alone". No one is forced to bid on eBay. As with any auction, sometimes you get a deal, and sometimes you don't. I spent a good bit of time reviewing the sellers listing on eBay, and I also could not find anything deceptive. There were no claims made as to the quality of the construction.

So, buyer beware. If not sure, ask questions, and that is the real lesson here.

I do however feel that it is not right to smear the reputation or name of someone for one's own lack of proper investigation. Usually when I do something stupid, I keep it to myself, rather than tell the world I screwed up, and then try to blame my lack of thoroughness on others.

[Tundra]

Valkyalky,
  Your answer is yes. Honda did sell them and they still do sell them. However they are produced by "Aeromach", not Honda themselves. They are sold as an accessory, here's the link...
http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=1484&str=2

Are these the good ones, or the cheap ones?

MP

MP...I hope they are the good ones  ???  They are the only ones I know, I've  never seen any other type. I've had them on the bike about 4-5 years and they still look as new. I do clean all my chrome regularly.


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