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billyjakester
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« on: April 26, 2011, 05:57:43 PM »

Great tactics by the 'locals' - good advise for riders in 'Patriot Guard'


http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/04/westboro-baptists-defeated.html#tp


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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 06:06:26 PM »

Now thats what Im talkin about..........an example fer sure for future events  cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2011, 06:07:27 PM »

A JOB WELL DONE !  cooldude   cooldude   cooldude   cooldude   cooldude
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 06:09:03 PM »

 cooldude
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 06:10:44 PM »

Get'er Done!!  Love it!
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 06:11:53 PM »

That was a very creative way to handle the situation. Please do not snopes the story and ruin it for me

I dont know if I am related to the soldier (my last name is Rogers) but I will be praying for his family as I wish the best for all our children in uniform and for the mission to one day end so they can come home

RIP  Cry
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 06:13:41 PM »

Excellent!!!   cooldude cooldude cooldude cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 06:21:05 PM »

Job well done,,, Hope it catches on.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 06:22:19 PM »

Actually, the WBC won that day. They are out to find ways to make money through the court system. If the stories are true, and I've got doubts about that, they will be having the local folks, the local law enforcement and anyone else who crossed their path that day in court and will keep the suit going until the folks find themselves settling the case. If the stories are true, there might even be federal charges leveled against the local police for holding them without cause. If this story is true, the WBC is lovin it.

The thing that really works is just to ignore them. Waste their time and money and focus on the Fallen Hero and the families of the fallen and Honor them.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 06:27:29 PM »

The whole town pitched in........                   (its all over the net)

Beautiful.           cooldude


Good luck with a MS jury. 

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 06:59:47 PM »

First and fore most R I P SGT Rogers. If there is any happiness here-it's the fact that those low life scum suckin worthless s o bs DID NOT disrupt that particular funeral. That in and of itself is quite something. AGAIN SGT ROGERS-FAIR WIND AND FOLLOWING SEAS.       Semper Fi
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 11:10:13 PM »

I have read about this elsewhere and agree that the WBC's interference with a funeral may be legal but it isn't right. Many have underestimated the resourcefulness of the good people of Mississippi and many have been surprised in the end. Respect still means something here, especially in small towns such as Brandon. When the people of WBC made their public plans to protest the funeral of our fallen soldier, they may as well have just urinated on the shoes of the good citizens of the fair city of Brandon, MS. I applaud their efforts in keeping Sgt. Rogers services solemn and respectful. Let the chips fall where they may; but I dare say that they would not find sympathy with a jury in our fair state either!
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 02:55:46 AM »

Bloody brilliant.  cooldude
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2011, 03:27:56 AM »

Well done Mississippi...  cooldude  Should be done everywhere those loseholes show up..   angel
RIP Sgt Rogers . 
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 04:33:01 AM »

I believe in free speech, but I don't believe these protestors should be able to disrupt a very seriousmatter such as the funeral of a fallen soldier in a town where 100 percent of the people of the town are trying to shwo their respect for the fallen soldier.  I think this town showed the nation some cahonies and stood up to the protestors.   however, I think the wbc will continue their protests in the future.  The only way you are going to get to these people is to cost them money......a little water in the gas tank, a few cut valve stems,  a few cracked windshields each time they go somewhere and they'l quit.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2011, 05:12:03 AM »

 cooldude
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2011, 05:24:32 AM »

Semper Fi

So far I have not seen these guys in Ohio - thankgoodness
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2011, 07:03:10 AM »

     The WBC didn't win that day, and the WBC will never win. It sounds like the situation in Mississippi was handled well with minimum violence. Must not be too many liberals in that part of the state at least.
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2011, 07:33:39 AM »

     The WBC didn't win that day, and the WBC will never win. It sounds like the situation in Mississippi was handled well with minimum violence. Must not be too many liberals in that part of the state at least.
AMEN John..............if (and I expect them to) they file a suit, they should be treated in Federal court EXACTLY the way they were treated in TN but with legal/official answers

--Law enforcement has the right to detain ANYONE for questioning
--Parking tickets have been handed out for the vehicles improperly parked
--Federal judges cant mandate response times for wreckers, you are on youre own
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2011, 07:40:40 AM »

Actually, the WBC won that day. They are out to find ways to make money through the court system. If the stories are true, and I've got doubts about that, they will be having the local folks, the local law enforcement and anyone else who crossed their path that day in court and will keep the suit going until the folks find themselves settling the case. If the stories are true, there might even be federal charges leveled against the local police for holding them without cause. If this story is true, the WBC is lovin it.

The thing that really works is just to ignore them. Waste their time and money and focus on the Fallen Hero and the families of the fallen and Honor them.

Wow!  Did I write this under a different handle?!   Cheesy  Cool

I agree that this story has all of the markings of an urban legend, since it is quickly repeated in the blog-o-sphere, and nary a word on any news sites.  Don't worry, Oss, even if it is false, I won't post a link proving it!   Evil

I know Westboro is extremely unpopular, but how would you view it if motorcyclists were treated similarly during a protest?  If you wanted to protest motorcycle only check points, and the locals disagreed with your method and slashed your tires, or destroyed your bike, would you just tuck your tails and go home, or use legal action?

Hearing gratuitous revenge stories like this may be satisfying, but would have serious repercussions if actually done.
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2011, 07:52:24 AM »

Resourceful tactics that were used on them - and pretty much legal, too.  I'm sure there are many many others that haven't been employed yet, that break their property and cost money but not injury to the people themselves.  Like caltrops under their tires, or otherwise deflate them.  Inject skunk scent or powerful acid onto the upholstery of their cars.  Cut all the wires in the engine compartments.  Put the cars up on blocks.  When you know in advance, organize a hotel denial for a large radius. Look up or otherwise acquire their car descriptions and tag numbers and set up rolling roadblocks.  Or repeat the police "investigations" - that's a good one, though legally liable. While they are picketing - destroy or immobilize or tow their vehicles, then deny them any towing services - or tow them to impound lots and lose the paperwork or otherwise inconvenience them - with high towing charges and high impound lot charges.  Have the cars stolen and stripped - that would have to be done with careful deniability.  Seems like finding inconvenient red tape from police or other gov't bureaucracies shouldn't be too hard - that's what gov't is best at.  Of course some of these and similar methods aren't legal, and could only be used once, but oh well.  So maybe the illegal ones, in collusion with shady characters "Hey, I know where there's a Mercedes that's unwatched from 10:30 to noon..."

Yeah I know, these aren't ethical.  Neither is the wbc's behavior.  Fight fire with fire.  Then "you are no better than them."  I disagree with that.  Their behavior re: our fallen heros and their families is the lowest of the low.  While they claim to be keepers of our morality.  Hypocrites.
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2011, 08:45:41 AM »

Semper Fi

So far I have not seen these guys in Ohio - thankgoodness

They have been there Rowdy, don't remember the town right off now, but it was somewhere around Dayton.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2011, 08:52:14 AM »

Semper Fidelis Sgt. Rogers,  RIP



What ever happened to good old fashioned blanket parties? One by one -anywhere they gather, will stop these demons professing to be Christians!

What is very ironic is that those very men gave their life for their country and freedom of speech. Yes even to the maggots at WBC!!  Angry Angry tickedoff tickedoff
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2011, 08:55:44 AM »

Gee Mark, put some time into that, did ya?
I've been on PGR rides where they were and we just held up flags and obscured the view.
Not against your ideas at all.
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2011, 09:10:58 AM »

What ever happened to good old fashioned blanket parties? One by one -anywhere they gather, will stop these demons professing to be Christians!

It's interesting that some believe they can distinguish true members of a religion from false ones...

What is very ironic is that those very men gave their life for their country and freedom of speech. Yes even to the maggots at WBC!!  Angry Angry tickedoff tickedoff

WBC isn't protesting the soldier, they are protesting the US government's supposed condoning or endorsement of homosexuality.  They choose the most emotional venue possible for these protests to garner attention and financial gain against anyone who tries to suppress them.
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2011, 09:24:42 AM »

Actually, the WBC won that day. They are out to find ways to make money through the court system. If the stories are true, and I've got doubts about that, they will be having the local folks, the local law enforcement and anyone else who crossed their path that day in court and will keep the suit going until the folks find themselves settling the case. If the stories are true, there might even be federal charges leveled against the local police for holding them without cause. If this story is true, the WBC is lovin it.

The thing that really works is just to ignore them. Waste their time and money and focus on the Fallen Hero and the families of the fallen and Honor them.

Wow!  Did I write this under a different handle?!   Cheesy  Cool

I agree that this story has all of the markings of an urban legend, since it is quickly repeated in the blog-o-sphere, and nary a word on any news sites.  Don't worry, Oss, even if it is false, I won't post a link proving it!   Evil

I know Westboro is extremely unpopular, but how would you view it if motorcyclists were treated similarly during a protest?  If you wanted to protest motorcycle only check points, and the locals disagreed with your method and slashed your tires, or destroyed your bike, would you just tuck your tails and go home, or use legal action?

Hearing gratuitous revenge stories like this may be satisfying, but would have serious repercussions if actually done.



     If the WBC folks had been on motorcycles I'd still be Ok with it. Truth or fiction, I don't know, I wasn't there, honest, really.... Wink
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2011, 09:27:25 AM »

let's just reverse the situation and protest one of their own funerals and see how they like it.
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2011, 09:52:51 AM »

What ever happened to good old fashioned blanket parties? One by one -anywhere they gather, will stop these demons professing to be Christians!

It's interesting that some believe they can distinguish true members of a religion from false ones...

Silly ole XGUY he should've known better after all ONLY YOU are capable of determining that.


What is very ironic is that those very men gave their life for their country and freedom of speech. Yes even to the maggots at WBC!!  Angry Angry tickedoff tickedoff

WBC isn't protesting the soldier, they are protesting the US government's supposed condoning or endorsement of homosexuality.  They choose the most emotional venue possible for these protests to garner attention and financial gain against anyone who tries to suppress them.

I sincerely hope that you only agree that these people have the right to do this and that you aren't implying that you agree with what they are doing.

Just because someone has a "right" to do something doesn't make it "right" for them to do it.

Besides doing something that you know is wrong just so you can sue the person that gives you the a$$ whooping that you deserve just isn't right.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2011, 10:32:32 AM »

Silly ole XGUY he should've known better after all ONLY YOU are capable of determining that.

Nope...  I don't care either way when someone claims to be a member of some intangible mystic order.  If you claimed to be the Grand Pooh-bah of the Ancient Order of Nebulatonian Worshipers, I wouldn't disagree.  I might laugh if someone else claims that you aren't, and they are!   2funny


I sincerely hope that you only agree that these people have the right to do this and that you aren't implying that you agree with what they are doing.

Just because someone has a "right" to do something doesn't make it "right" for them to do it.

Besides doing something that you know is wrong just so you can sue the person that gives you the a$$ whooping that you deserve just isn't right.

If I haven't mentioned it before, I vehemently oppose their message and disagree with the venue and method they choose for their demonstrations.  I do support everyone's right to get their message out, regardless of content or rationality.  It seems common to misconstrue WBC's focus as upon the soldier and their family, instead of US policy.  That's why I replied.
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2011, 12:04:41 PM »

GOD Bless the American soldier and those that love them and support them!
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2011, 12:13:08 PM »

 cooldude cooldude cooldude Way to go Mississippi
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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2011, 01:09:14 PM »

Sounds like it was handled perfectly to me. I'll bet they (the westboro morons) look good waxed! It also sounds to me like their rights were never infringed upon by the government. And lets not forget, our constitution was written to protect us from the government.

If a couple of guys get into an ass kicking contest somewhere, well, some days you'll have that. And if a few private citizens double park, the government didn't violate any ones rights as far as I can see.

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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2011, 05:00:40 PM »

Remember one thing re: the First Amendment -
  With Freedom of Speech comes 'Responsibility'
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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2011, 06:22:42 PM »

What ever happened to good old fashioned blanket parties? One by one -anywhere they gather, will stop these demons professing to be Christians!

It's interesting that some believe they can distinguish true members of a religion from false ones...

What is very ironic is that those very men gave their life for their country and freedom of speech. Yes even to the maggots at WBC!!  Angry Angry tickedoff tickedoff

WBC isn't protesting the soldier, they are protesting the US government's supposed condoning or endorsement of homosexuality.  They choose the most emotional venue possible for these protests to garner attention and financial gain against anyone who tries to suppress them.
You say the WBC isn't protesting the soldier, then why does the media show them celebrating the death of soldiers and saying "more soldiers need to be killed"! And why do you think the Patriot Guard is there?? No, it's about the soldiers and yes they hate the homosexuals too.
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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2011, 06:48:43 PM »

You say the WBC isn't protesting the soldier, then why does the media show them celebrating the death of soldiers and saying "more soldiers need to killed"! And why do you think the Patriot Guard is there?? No, it's about the soldiers and yes they hate the homosexuals too.

My understanding is that the WBC believes soldiers deaths are a direct consequence of God's wrath on the US for tolerating homosexuality.  Therefore, since these deaths are ordained by God, they celebrate them.  They could have picked anything, like natural disasters or our financial problems, but I guess they knew that soldiers deaths had the highest potential for attention and financial gain.
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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2011, 07:19:55 PM »

They could just have easily decided to protest at child rape-murder funerals, saying God is punishing America for it's homosexual tolerance.  It would be just as abhorrent and make just as much sense as their soldier argument (none)........... but there are a lot more veteran funerals to ply their trade (these days).

The fact is I doubt many (or any) actually believe these things.... it is just their business model; use the first amendment to protect despicable, outrageous behavior aimed at inciting civil infractions against them, and then use the courts and civil rights legislation for pecuniary gain.   
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« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2011, 07:26:29 PM »

Thanks for putting it in perspective, that explains the media attention which they don't deserve. The goverment destroyed David Koresh and the Ruby Ridge incident which IMO were tame compared to these idiots. These are true hate mongers that twist the word of God and I believe if they didn't get media attention, they would just fade away...I would hope.
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« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2011, 08:09:01 PM »

Thanks for putting it in perspective, that explains the media attention which they don't deserve. The goverment destroyed David Koresh and the Ruby Ridge incident which IMO were tame compared to these idiots. These are true hate mongers that twist the word of God and I believe if they didn't get media attention, they would just fade away...I would hope.

That is why we instruct all FNG's on our PGR missions to ignore them.  No shouting, gestures, or aggressive behavior allowed.  We focus on the family to insure they understand we are there to honor and shield them.
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