bigfish_Oh
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« on: May 15, 2011, 09:14:17 AM » |
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I sure would like to take the trouble shooting shortcuts, what is this sympton leading to? I thought last year it started sometimes in gear and sometimes not, now it must be in neutral
clutch safety switch?
99, 21K
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 09:20:32 AM » |
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My I/S will not start unless it is in neutral. I thought it was normal. now you have me wondering. lol
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Red Diamond
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2011, 09:23:26 AM » |
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It should start in gear, with the sidestand up and clutch pulled in. If the sidestand is down it will not start unless it is in neutral.
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R J
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2011, 09:30:57 AM » |
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If none of the above fits your criteria check the little brass bushing in the clutch handle. The one the bolt goes through to hold the lever on. It might be egg shaped and not completly getting the contact in where it should be.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2011, 10:20:22 AM » |
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Most of the time its the neutral switch right next to the lever....the other day mine started doing the same thing, so I changed the switch and did not fix the problem...put on a different lever and put the old switch back in and it worked fine...just a worn lever.. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 04:28:14 PM » |
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I have the adjustable Kury GL1800 levers. If I dial the clutch back too far, it won't start in gear because the tab won't push the little button. I dial it out a notch and it's OK. You could build up the tab with nail polish or something to push the button better. Fred.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 09:10:42 AM » |
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I sure would like to take the trouble shooting shortcuts, what is this sympton leading to? I thought last year it started sometimes in gear and sometimes not, now it must be in neutral
clutch safety switch?
99, 21K
thanks
Pretty normal! I think you maybe are wrong about it ever starting in gear unless certain conditions were met. Which would be side stand up and clutch lever pulled fully "in". The clutch lever switch is easily accessible and the contacts are easy to get to, so checking with a continuity tester is fairly simple. The side stand switch is pretty reliable and when there are problems they usually stem from a broken spring bolt and improper reassembly. ***
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 10:49:14 AM » |
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Most of the time its the neutral switch right next to the lever....the other day mine started doing the same thing, so I changed the switch and did not fix the problem...put on a different lever and put the old switch back in and it worked fine...just a worn lever..  Ditto for me. After replacing bushing and side stand switch I discovered the lever was worn too much to activate the switch. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 01:01:42 PM » |
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Cattman....did you replace the bushing in the lever? I was told they don't make a replacement.....if so where do you get them?
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 01:59:26 PM » |
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Cattman....did you replace the bushing in the lever? I was told they don't make a replacement.....if so where do you get them?
I'm not Cattman ... but this might help`: Valk clutch lever bushingSuzuki part number 59892-08A00 $3.05Honda part Number 2285-MBO-006 $10.00Both are identical ... your choice! 
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I still have a full deck. I just shuffle slower ...
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 03:19:35 PM » |
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Interesting, My 99 I/S ,28k, just started doing the same thing. I think it is in the clutch lever, but I will be interested to find out what you discover.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 05:53:49 AM » |
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Cattman....did you replace the bushing in the lever? I was told they don't make a replacement.....if so where do you get them?
I'm not Cattman ... but this might help`: Valk clutch lever bushingSuzuki part number 59892-08A00 $3.05Honda part Number 2285-MBO-006 $10.00Both are identical ... your choice!  Thanks.... 
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 11:27:13 AM » |
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I think the bushing peoople are talking about is #2 in the drawing. It actuates the clutch master cylinder by pushing #1, but not the switch. The bushing that is part of the lever through which the lever mounting bolt goes is not replaceable. When it wears into an oval-shaped hole it prevents the switch from working and the whole lever must be replaced. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2011, 05:59:00 PM » |
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Mine does this every couple of years. I pull the switch off, clean the points thru the little window in the switch and put it back on. Takes about 5 minutes and its good to go for another couple of years. I think the points oxidize over time. -RP
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Highbinder
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 06:53:43 PM » |
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I think the bushing peoople are talking about is #2 in the drawing. It actuates the clutch master cylinder by pushing #1, but not the switch. The bushing that is part of the lever through which the lever mounting bolt goes is not replaceable. When it wears into an oval-shaped hole it prevents the switch from working and the whole lever must be replaced.  Thanks...I guess the information about it no being unreplaceable was right...I'm glad you cleared that up for me, I would have just order a few and been very disappointed when they arrived... 
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