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Author Topic: WARNING ABOUT VENDOR: "CRUISER CUSTOMIZING"  (Read 1705 times)
Paxton
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« on: May 20, 2011, 07:26:59 PM »

Hello People.
When everything goes well, Cruiser Customizing is a bit pricey, but ok.

However...
Well, the attached email to Cruiser Customizing  speaks for itself.  Evil

Enjoy...  Shocked

________________________________________

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 6:29 PM
To: 'support@cruisercustomizing.com'
Cc: 'orders@cruisercustomizing.com'
Subject: FENDER BIB PART # M78051

“Tommy;”

(CC: “David.”)

Ask yourselves the question, is CC getting your bang for their buck? Cruiser Customizing’s  practices are wasteful.

Please take the time to read the two emails below, received from a “David.”
Please, read them twice…

Your computer-generated message “… For more answers click here to check out our Knowledgebase,” it is the last thing I ever want to do.

YOUR MOTTO: “Share the passion.” What passion?

On your repetitive admonishment, Yes, I have everything ready for FedEx pick up at my home. Did you miss that email? 

If you care to know, I Cc you on it.  See below. (Have you read this far?)

The return package includes a copy of the invoice and a completed Return Merchandize Form. 
Mind you, the requirement to provide these papers was understood several emails ago.
Read the email I sent you on 18 May… way below ...

Meanwhile, “David” offered and I accepted that FedEx would retrieve the item from my house...
I am just awaiting further instructions as SPECIFIED below…. On the other hand, am I back to square one?

Incidentally, do you actually know who “David” is? Do you people communicate?
It boggles the mind that none of you folks uses last names…. Any connection to the Navy Seals’ Team 6?

Frankly, the energy required to negotiate returns to Cruiser Customizing is freakin’ exhausting.
Your staffing must be tripling CC's  overhead costs. It is repetitive and wholly inefficient paper shuffling as it were.
It makes government bureaucracy a desirable option.
 
I cannot recall the last time a vendor wasted so much of my time and sucked the oxygen out of my office.  It is pathetically depressive.
It makes me regret ever finding Cruiser Customizing.  It rivals my POW experience, a picnic by comparison.

The value of my time investment on this issue and others, could buy me 20 Fender Bibs… and another 10 Bullet Lights...
one for which I have requested reimbursement. 
I am still wasting more time on that one, as well. No resolution in sight.

Please provide the requested FedEx p/u instructions and let us get on with it before the earthquake.

Repeat: “… Some things are worth fighting for, even if one looses.”

J. Feliciano, an outraged customer
Glendale, Ca. 91206-1904

“Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm”

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J. Paxton Gomez

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1975 First year Chrysler Cordoba... 360 CI V8
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Squatchmo
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 08:37:45 PM »

Maybe I'm dense, but.... obviously something didn't go right with your order, but I'm confused by the emails.  You're blasting them for something, but I guess I need to be spoon-fed as to what that is? 
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R J
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DS-0009 ...... # 173

Des Moines, IA


« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 10:05:10 PM »

Sounds like he had a problem with the order and when he called to have the problem taken care of he blew off steam an told them what he was going to do if they didn't get off the pot and take care of it.

Customers come into our shop with that attitude usually get an attitude adjustment just like he is.

He settles down and acts like he is civilized he will probably get somewhere.
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Paxton
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 10:10:14 PM »

It's a long story best told by reading ALL my communications w/Cruiser Customizing.

However, posting them all would only crowd this forum. They are pretty boring.

I realize that the email I posted could leave people in the dark.

My advice to the group would be to ignore my email and to feel the thrill by their own experience.

Thank you for the feedback.
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J. Paxton Gomez

1966 First year Bronco... 302 CI V8
1975 First year Chrysler Cordoba... 360 CI V8
1978 Honda 750F / Cafe Racer
2000 GL1500CY Fast-Black Standard Solo Rider

So Cal... 91205

"Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul."
f6rider
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 05:27:18 AM »

I have had two transactions with them this year. The first had a issue which they resolved quickly by email and phone. They called me to make sure I understood what was going on. Similar on the second order.
I was happy with there efforts.
The problem I have with it all is that most of the places don't actually stock the parts, a fact that doesn't become clear until after they are paid for. That was the issues with my two orders.
I paid for express shipping, want the item in a day or 2 and they don't even stock it.. They refund my shipping.
One of the reasons I like bay is because I know if they have it in stock and I can clear up the shipping issue before I buy because of there superior communication proceedures.

 I once paid special handling, which I would think is quicker shipping, and it turned out to be they charged me 18.00 to pullet off the shelf in one day rather than 3 or 4. And no expedited shipping.
I thought it to be mis leading and when the vendor attitude got pissy I decided  he will receive no more of my money.
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Tundra
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 08:21:32 AM »

I have had several purchases over the years, no problems. I have had two returns, one went smooth. The second I was overjoyed with. The second one was a Dyna-Tech 3000 pos ignition. I fought with Dyna-Tech who wouldn't budge on their own junk product, even admitted problems with them. CC came through for me, yup full refund, no problems cooldude I'm sorry for your troubles, not trying to make light of your experience. Mine was good ???
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fiddle mike
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 11:20:44 AM »

You don't have to sell me. After checking out CC's website, initially, I made my first purchase from J&P Cycles.
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ricoman
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Sarasota, FL


« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2011, 11:55:59 AM »

Have purchased more than a few items from them over the past few years.
Never had any problem of any kind.
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B
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 12:22:25 PM »

Although returns at Cruiser Customizing can be frustrating, my all time favorite is JP CYCLES.
I ordered a new air header system for my air ride which failed a couple seasons ago. Although the picture and description were exactly what i needed, what I received was not. It took several emails with pictures to get there sub-par customer complaints Dept to understand the issue. Even though the problem was their fault, my refund was reduced by a restocking fee. I found what I needed on Amazon ( of all places ) for a third the cost. And NO LONGER DO BUSINESS WITH JPCYCLES... unfortunate, because they do have a wide selection and are ok when they get the order right... Even if there Anamosa store and staff were a joke & little help the ONE TIME I stopped in.  Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 12:25:21 PM »

Oops ... Almost forgot ... JPCYCLES SUX ... guess you probably read between the lines  Wink
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R J
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DS-0009 ...... # 173

Des Moines, IA


« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 12:36:23 PM »

All their good help is in the Florida store....   When Sturgis is on they all go their for the Rally.

Anomosa only has trainees there.   Anyway, that is what I figured out at their Open House.
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ValkFlyer
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 05:56:51 PM »

Now a days with as much as these vendors sell you're probably, sooner or later, going to run into a situation that frustrates you.  Heck who doesn't have a bad day.  I've done business with Cruiser Customizing for nearly six years and I'm more than pleased with the service.  It's a shame you had trouble, then again it doesn't appear you picked up the phone and tried talking with someone directly, an option they make available.  Certainly something to keep in mind since much seems to get lost in today's written words.
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MNBill
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 06:13:39 PM »

I have always been happy with purchases and returns from Dennis Kirk. They will match any price and ship the same day. My two tires and most of the bling on my bike (except custom stuff from vendors on this site) came from them.
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Paxton
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2011, 03:01:28 AM »

WARNING: The following post is long and extremely boring... but here I go.    Roll Eyes

Read at your own peril.

===============================================================

... Don't get me wrong. 96.857% of my dealings with Cruiser Customizing have been positive.   

As I mentioned in the first post, when everything goes smooth, and for the most part, it has, Cruiser Customizing is Ok.  Smiley

However, in the past 60 days, I have purchased many items from them... I have dished out over $2K to them alone.
I am not counting another $1.5K paid to most others, including Kirk, Amazon, eBay, etc.

Mind you, I am dressing up my Valkyrie, my vintage Gold Wing and my cousin's Rune all at the same time. Hence, the high expenses.

I am bothered with this vendor because in such a short period they have screwed up three times... In spite of that, I've continued purchasing stuff from them.  Embarrassed

Of course, some have suggested that my uncivilized attitude is to blame... fair criticism, especially if one's daily exercise program relies on jumpin' to conclusions...  Wink

I know some people on that exercise program. It does not seem to work. Their ass keeps getting fatter while their lips keep flappin.'    Shocked

If you've gotten this far, you might as well keep on reading...   

Consider two events typical of all three unresolved mishaps with this vendor.

1.) Several weeks ago, I purchased two Arlen Ness ribbed bullet lights.
They charged me for both, but sent only one. I called to inquire. He said it was on back order and that it would be delivered in one week,
but that I would have to pay a second shipping fee.  ???

Two weeks later, the second bullet light had not arrived. Therefore, I called again.
This time his response was that, the item has been discontinued by Arlen Ness.
However, I am now left holding-on to one discontinued bullet light, I said.  Sad
 
I then stated that I would return the incomplete order they had delivered... and that's when the conflict began.  tickedoff

NOTE: My independent research indicates that it is true... The ribbed bullet light is discontinued. Fair enough, stuff happens. Not a big deal ...

He still requires that I pay the shipping for returning the one unmatched item they sent. Color me unreasonable, but in my mind,
they created the screw up.

Moreover, this person insists that I send him a copy of the invoice, and that CC will not accept the document attached to an email.
That I must mail a hard copy. Well, I requested that he put that in writing... He refused.

Another employee wrote that he would arrange for a FedEx pick up on their dime... great!  Shocked

I then get a call from the first dude, telling me that the other person has no authority to make the offer to have FedEx pick up the item...  2funny
 
Furthermore, he continues refusing to reimburse me for the second discontinued light, which they charged a while back, including shipping...

Their policy, he says, requires a return of the unmatched item (on my dime) before reimbursing the charges on the discontinued bullet light.
His reason? "... Because it is part of the same invoice..." Again, on my request, he refused to put this in writing... go figure.  Cheesy

2.) On the same day, I purchased a "Mustang" Rear Fender Bib from them. It arrived promptly and I was happy. It looks great on the Valkyrie!   

Several days ago, I received a second shipment of the identical Bib. I thought they had sent me a second Bib by mistake.

I called the same person and informed him of the apparent error. He said that it was not an error.
That I had purchased two Bibs on the same day
and that the second Bib had been placed on "back order."

I researched the matter further, thinking that I might have had ordered two Bibs, instead of one.
My findings demonstrated that that they had reprocessed
a duplicate order five days later. So, I called him again and told him that.

He now says that the second Bib was not available at the time of my original order and that they reprocessed the entire order once the second Bib became available.  Lips Sealed

Well, I found that each "purchase" has a different invoice number and a different order-date.
I called again and gave him that information.

He said that I must have made a second order five days later. I told him that I could not have made such order because on that date I had been at a funeral
in the Dominican Republic for the previous two days.

I explained that I was at the funeral of a missionary whose charitable mission I have supported for the past 11 years...
I've been there 9 times for two-week periods as a volunteer.

He then said that I must sent him proof that there was indeed a funeral in Santo Domingo,
and proof that I was actually there...    ??? Shocked

I asked him to send me an email confirming that request. He said, "NO... you already know what to do."  crazy2

I then proceeded to send the emails that I included in my first post. The one displaying my outrageous attitude.  Embarrassed

Now, some might have concluded that I have a brash attitude and that is why I have been unable to resolve these issues.
Actually, I think someone suggested that people like me need an attitude adjustment... or something like that.  Undecided

Well, I respect differing points of view and admire the capacity to keep cool under such circumstances.

BTW... look me up on eBay under UNTAINO.
If you take the time and read the mixed feedback I have received from eBay vendors, you might find some positive testimonials about my business practices
and how I operate.  angel You would then speak with greater authority about my attitude.

Meanwhile, I am still stuck holding on to unwanted items... no reimbursements, no confetti,
no cigars... and yes, I am still happily pissed.    Cheesy

Mind you. It is not the money. Indeed, I have been blessed with my children's large inheritance, which I am spending as fast as I can on numerous toys...  2funny
I am doing so before relentless decomposition kicks into high gear!

NOTE: If you read this far, I admire your tolerance for what in the end will not make or break me. In the larger sense, this is small potatoes.

However, as mentioned elsewhere, "some things are worth fighting for, even if you loose."   

Have a great Valkyrie day!   

 police    "Never over-estimate the wisdom of a Traffic Cop."   police   
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J. Paxton Gomez

1966 First year Bronco... 302 CI V8
1975 First year Chrysler Cordoba... 360 CI V8
1978 Honda 750F / Cafe Racer
2000 GL1500CY Fast-Black Standard Solo Rider

So Cal... 91205

"Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul."
9Ball
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2011, 03:41:05 AM »

hang in there...sounds like you have a lot of patience.

It's unfortunate these correspondences have to happen on line or over the phone.  You would be treated much nicer in a face-to-face discussion... Wink
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East China Mi.


« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2011, 05:07:11 AM »

It's always easy to order people around when they're not at arms length away from you! I feel your pain and understand why you're that upset. I hope you get things resolved in you're favor. Larry in East China Mi.
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