Moly paste or grease?

[Cleaner Man]

I will be doing my spline and final-drive maintenance on my '97 Standard soon (first time on my own).  I talked to a Guard Dog rep, and he said that all i needed was the moly grease.  he thought that the moly paste was too heavy.  Should I use both the paste and greasefor the various parts, or just the grease? I apprediate the input from the rest of you all on this, and thanks for all the great help the past few years. 

[Grandpot]

Paste on the splines of the wheel.  Grease on the splines of the drive shaft (both ends).

If you use grease on the wheel splines, it will most likely fling off.

[3W-lonerider]

i used wheel bearing grease on my drive shaft and wheel splines ...never had a problem. now that mines a trike and the honda u-joint is out in the open with no protection from the weather at all. i still use wheel bearing grease and check it every 10,000 miles. theres always grease on the splines and they are never dry.

[Momz]

Use Gaurd Dog 525 on the splines and on the driveshaft. The recommendations by the GD rep are correct, and I have used 525 for several years now (and I'm hard on my bike) with great results.

Oh,.....grease will not fling off , but you should always replace your o-rings, as the old ones may tear when you reassemble the wheel.

Good Luck

[fast black]

My 98 fast black standard  Valkyrie  uses sta lube moly grease.   72,000 miles and splines have no noticeable wear.  I  use it on driveshaft, u-joint, and final drive splines.  One lubricant for all.
adios
fast black

[R J]

MGM has had a waterproof wheel bearing grease on the splines and shafts since new.......

Don't remember the actual mileage I had to replace the rear pumpkin, it was well over 100,000 miles, and it was not due to no grease, it was just plain worn out by miles driven.

Mileage currently setting on 241,000 and change and around 100,000 and change on the replacement pumkin......   Had it apart yesterday and redid the grease, O rings and etc, looked good so he went back together and became a solo bike.......

[Steve K (IA)]

Bel Ray waterproof grease is all you need.   One little $5 tub will last forever.

[fudgie]

I used Valvoline water proof moly grease last year. It flung off on my rim. After 15,000 miles the splines looked good and still has some on it. I pasted them this year for my rims sake and greased the DS.

[Lucky Duck]

Someone told me that it's not good to mix types of grease.  If you use the GD paste, you probably don't want to "thin it" by mixing a good chassis grease, could change the chemical make-up of both. 

[PharmBoy]

I think that there are many lubricants that will work well as long as you check it in a reasonable time period and follow the proper procedure when putting the bike back together.  Just for grins, I mixed Bel Ray waterproof grease and Guard Dog paste together in a 50/50 mixture and applied it to the splines.  It made a homogeneous mixture which should be waterproof and provide plenty of moly for protection...JTL   

[threevalks]

As Steve K said. Bel Ray waterproof grease is all you need.

[Airetime]

I will be doing my spline and final-drive maintenance on my '97 Standard soon (first time on my own).  I talked to a Guard Dog rep, and he said that all i needed was the moly grease.  he thought that the moly paste was too heavy.  Should I use both the paste and greasefor the various parts, or just the grease? I apprediate the input from the rest of you all on this, and thanks for all the great help the past few years. 

If you are going Guard Dog use the 570 on the splines and the 525 on the drive shaft. Also remember to replace the "O" rings  http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/Elusive%203rd%20O-Ring.htm

[frosty]

Have greased the splines many times every 10k Used guarddog and it seemed to be thin. Use marine grease twice and I liked the look of it better when checked.

[Tundra]

+1 for Bel-Ray I USED Molly paste and had to do splines at 19,000 miles. I now use Bel-Ray grease and looks better to me at the 10,000 mile intervals. I choose to stay with Bel-Ray waterproof grease.

[Airetime]

I will be doing my spline and final-drive maintenance on my '97 Standard soon (first time on my own).  I talked to a Guard Dog rep, and he said that all i needed was the moly grease.  he thought that the moly paste was too heavy.  Should I use both the paste and greasefor the various parts, or just the grease? I apprediate the input from the rest of you all on this, and thanks for all the great help the past few years. 

I think that with all this discussion about which lubricant to use with what application, one of the the most important replacements is the "O" ring replacements AT the time of the servicing. Having failing "O" ring(s) will create improper sealing and allow moisture to destroy the splines due to rust.  ???

Let's face it, there are very good lubricants out there including Marine grease and Guarddog, but if the "O" rings fail you still run the risk of ruining the splines. 

[frosty]

I also had to replace the small bearing one ck.

[98valk]

if your paste does not have at least 60% moly the splines have accelerated wear. Only molybdenum disulfide can provide the protection from the shock and load the splines see. Do a search on what moly is and why and how it works.
There are very few additvives/greases that can meet or exceed the extreme pressure protection that moly provides. Honda engineers have this requirement right in the service manual.

http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Shaft.html