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Author Topic: Generic Tensioner?  (Read 2141 times)
PatrickDoss
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« on: July 05, 2011, 12:38:05 PM »

Couldn't find anything in the archives and there was no listing on Jeff K's page.  About due for timing belts, and I'm replacing the tensioners for peace of mind.  Already got the Gates belts ordered, but is there a generic part number for the tensioners?  Honda wants $70 each!  I'm replacing them regardless, but if I can spend less for the same part, well...  uglystupid2
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 02:03:32 PM »

Pretty sure that's a Honda specific part.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 03:23:02 PM »

Maybe you could adapt some roller skate wheels!  That'd be generic enough wouldn't it?  Cheesy

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 03:37:38 PM »

Why do you think you need to replace the tensioners?
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Patrick
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 04:53:28 PM »

I like the above answers !  Grin.. It certainly would be interesting to see if you come up with something ' generic '.. I can certainly understand your concern,, Honda prices are outrageous.. It doesn't seem that these fail very often though, generally, cleaning the rubber off them is all thats required.. If they spin quietly and smoothly, they should be OK..
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 05:30:46 PM »

I am sure you can find a replacement pulley and bearing easy, just measure outside dia. thickness, and inside dia. it will crossover. They are also made by Gates.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 09:35:34 PM »

listen to patrick......don't waste your money....if they spin freely, and with no noise, then leave them alone.
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PatrickDoss
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 06:29:50 AM »

Pretty sure that's a Honda specific part.

Well, darn.  Looks like I get to order them from Honda.  Thanks for all the responses.
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Brian
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2011, 04:27:31 PM »

I had one side with a small ticking noise and replaced it with an OEM part. I noticed it had more of a wobble type play in it than the side that was quiet. The noise went away with the new part. I kept the old part for a raining exploration project to see if it can come a part to replace the bearing and then to reassemble it to see if it will work and last. I haven't seen any posts about this repair.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2011, 04:30:29 PM »

When we have bikes that go a quarter million miles and more with the original tensioner, I'll ask the question again; why change them? I won't say they don't fail, but the last one I heard of failing was in a front impact accident and the cover smacked against one side. For that matter, I've had two different GL1000 Wings that had been sitting for as much as eight years without being run. And, they weren't stored inside. After getting them running I only changed the belts(from Gates), by the time I sold them one had just shy of 200k on it the other had about 125K, original tensioners. Son, you're wasting money....but, it's yours to waste.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 04:43:42 PM »

John, boy, you're a riding son-of-a-gun..  Yep, if it ain't broke, keep fixing it til it is..
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 05:27:06 PM »

I had one side with a small ticking noise and replaced it with an OEM part. I noticed it had more of a wobble type play in it than the side that was quiet. The noise went away with the new part. I kept the old part for a raining exploration project to see if it can come a part to replace the bearing and then to reassemble it to see if it will work and last. I haven't seen any posts about this repair.



Tho I agree there is seldom a need to replace the tensioners, when one does start squeeling/growling, the local steeler will have them on backorder. The Valk's & Wings tensioners are the same. A rebuild PDF, complete with bearing numbers, can be found here:

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?id=34056

Just FWIW

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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 06:06:07 PM »

Ok, i'll bite  I've got what i think is a tensioner making noise  ( haven't had a lot of time to check) can I just back the tension off and see if thats the prob? The lady only has 16K on it so shes not ready for belts, but I dont want to lock up a tensioner and smoke a belt either....
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2011, 10:12:38 PM »

I had one side with a small ticking noise and replaced it with an OEM part. I noticed it had more of a wobble type play in it than the side that was quiet. The noise went away with the new part. I kept the old part for a raining exploration project to see if it can come a part to replace the bearing and then to reassemble it to see if it will work and last. I haven't seen any posts about this repair.



Tho I agree there is seldom a need to replace the tensioners, when one does start squeeling/growling, the local steeler will have them on backorder. The Valk's & Wings tensioners are the same. A rebuild PDF, complete with bearing numbers, can be found here:

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?id=34056

Just FWIW


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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2011, 06:00:04 AM »

So sign up. There's lots of info there that is pertenent to the GL1500 family of bikes. Heck, I'm even a member of the GWRRA, and get lots of good advice, like 'You should look at the Valkyrie if you don't like the looks of the 1500 Wing'.
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2011, 08:39:50 AM »

John, boy, you're a riding son-of-a-gun..  Yep, if it ain't broke, keep fixing it til it is..
Hey Patrick, I was younger then....and divorced at the time. Couldn't afford much of a car, much less the gas, so I used a bike on the job which took me all over Fla. as an auditor at the time, even had some trips to Tallahassee on them. Did that for over four years. Was kinda nice, except for the weather at times. I got mileage on my expense account, based on a car cost and I was using a bike.  cooldude And, if I had a date I asked if they had a problem with a bike. Most thought it was neat so there's quite a few rides to the beach in there as well. For about five years I put a bunch of miles on those old 1000's, but averaged less than 3500/yr. on the car. Those bikes never once failed me, almost bullet proof it seems.
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2011, 09:14:40 AM »

Ok, i'll bite  I've got what i think is a tensioner making noise  ( haven't had a lot of time to check) can I just back the tension off and see if thats the prob? The lady only has 16K on it so shes not ready for belts, but I dont want to lock up a tensioner and smoke a belt either....

You could ride it with the cover off to see if that truly is the problem.  Some vacuum leaks mimic idler problems.

You can also get a length of hose to listen to the suspected idler. It may be more quiet at idle but it will still make some noise if it is bad.

Saw some on E-Bay yesterday.

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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2011, 05:43:19 PM »

Almost sure its not vacuum. Noise coming from low(?) left front in the timing cover/water pump area. only when warm, changes with rpm, and can only hear it when sitting on the bike.
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 09:36:26 AM »

Almost sure its not vacuum. Noise coming from low(?) left front in the timing cover/water pump area. only when warm, changes with rpm, and can only hear it when sitting on the bike.

Probably best to start a new thread rather than hijack this one.

You could start with whether or not your Valkyrie is desmogged or not!

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 07:17:32 PM »

I had one side with a small ticking noise and replaced it with an OEM part. I noticed it had more of a wobble type play in it than the side that was quiet. The noise went away with the new part. I kept the old part for a raining exploration project to see if it can come a part to replace the bearing and then to reassemble it to see if it will work and last. I haven't seen any posts about this repair.



Tho I agree there is seldom a need to replace the tensioners, when one does start squeeling/growling, the local steeler will have them on backorder. The Valk's & Wings tensioners are the same. A rebuild PDF, complete with bearing numbers, can be found here:

Thanks Keepion. I signed up and made a copy of the info for my file. With Honda threatening to stop parts production for these bikes it's go to know there are repair guru's out there trying to beat the system.

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?id=34056

Just FWIW


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