On a road trip - impressed with Ride-On

[MarkT]

Just installed a new Cobra 180/70 and an Avon RoadRider bias rear in front.  Both without lead weights, both with recommended amount of Ride-On: 8oz front, 11oz rear.  I'm impressed with how glass-smooth the ride is.  I wasn't even aware there was any vibration before - but it's obvious there was, now that I'm experiencing it's absence.  I'm really curious to see what this does to tire life.  The claims are, I should see significant improvement of tire life.  Like 30% or so.  We'll see.  But the smooth ride is impressive.  Not to mention, peace of mind against air loss - not likely to find my tires low or flat in the mornings.

[fudgie]

Not knocking it, but wouldnt you want to find you have a flat while parked then to find out while on the road?

[Ricky-D]

Doesn't seem to me to be the optimum way to balance the tire.

Most all those in-tire flat preventers are age definitive and lose efficacy,,,, not to mention that some do actual harm to the wheel.

Read the instruction supplied, they all say: Repair the tire at the earliest opportunity.

Of course I recognize there will be those that expect the ingredient to be permanent or not even know that they are riding on a punctured tire.  I equate that practice to those people that ride around on those doughnut spares on their cars like there is no danger to that practice also.

The most important practice in riding is to be in touch with all facets of the bike and conditions of the bike. These sealants, to me,  tend to remove you somewhat from the reality of what's happening in a false security type of way.

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[NITRO]

I like the ride-on I have in the front tire so far as well! Seems like it does exactly what it's supposed to.

I check my tires at least weekly on the stand for any damage/nails, so I'm not worried about not knowing something is wrong. As for the longevity of the stuff, we'll see. There have been people to back up the company's claims that it will not damage wheels (makes a mess to clean up during tire changes, yes, but no corrosion).

[Oss]

 I found the claims on tire life spot on in a test with 3 metzler tires (rear)

No wobble, no cupping at all no vibration, no flats (also no nails observed when the tire eventually wore out)   Tire pressure checked very often running 40-42 in front and 44-46 in the rear depending on the load (1 or 2 up - with towing etc) and it is safe for our aluminum wheels.

YMMV  not an employee of the company  

The stuff is in my avon front well over 13k now and in the back battleaxe which just went on the end of this spring    I would happily spend 20 bucks to protect my 200-300 dollar tires actually the dealer charged by over 150 just to mount the tire in the rear  If you need to replace a tire that is real cost to consider in addition to the cost of a new tire.   Will it seal all holes? No just ones in the contact area but I am ok with that.  

[98valk]

I use quad-boss. same stuff just different color with out the more $$$ ride-on name on it. there are other companies selling it under their name and a different color. I 've posted the ride-on MSDS a few months ago, which shows it different colors. same base liquid as anti-freeze so its safe for metals.

[MarkT]

Not knocking it, but wouldnt you want to find you have a flat while parked then to find out while on the road?

Those aren't the choices.  I prefer having my tires dynamically balanced so they ride smoother and last longer, and never get out of balance, than to have vibration and tires wear out sooner, while potentially needing to be pulled and rebalanced.  (Assuming here the claims about longer life from Ride-On and the reports of riders are true) If there's a puncture - I'll find out next time I inspect the tire - not likely to lose air on the road, unless the puncture is towards the sidewall or is too big to be sealed by Ride-On - then it's not a choice anyway.

[MarkT]

Doesn't seem to me to be the optimum way to balance the tire.

Then don't do it.  Don't benefit from my actual tests and experience since it isnt "seemly" to you.

Most all those in-tire flat preventers are age definitive and lose efficacy,,,, not to mention that some do actual harm to the wheel.

"Most..."  "...some do harm..."  - based on what actual tests?  Quoting who?  What products?  Your expert commentary is based on... WHAT?  Paint  all sealant products with your vague generalization brush.   Such testimony would be thrown out in a court.  Ignore reports of actual use from riders here, on advrider.com and other sites. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696325&highlight=ride-on  http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448788&highlight=ride-on; cling to your uninformed opinion:  Don't do it.

Read the instruction supplied, they all say: Repair the tire at the earliest opportunity.

No kidding.  Who said anything about ignoring needed repairs?  Waste your money and do nothing to prevent flats on the road, or dynamically balance your tires.  Ignore the fleet use of Ride-On by the Police, EMS fleets, Waste Management and other garbage companies, and others.  No doubt you know better intuitively then their professionals and accountants do by research.

Of course I recognize there will be those that expect the ingredient to be permanent or not even know that they are riding on a punctured tire.  I equate that practice to those people that ride around on those doughnut spares on their cars like there is no danger to that practice also.

Good for you.  So I should care about what you recognize or equate.  My using Ride-On is equivalent in your mind to running a "polio spare" - like I would have a vehicle with such a spare tire in the first place.  I inspect my tires regularly.  I'm sharing actual experience here.  I reported on the balancing aspect here, not the slow leak I stopped with Ride-On after a plug/patch was still releasing air on a new tire -  if you only want the dynamic balancing aspect - and prefer your tires go flat when punctured - then use Dynabeads.  Otherwise - don't like your tires dynamically balanced either - then - don't use the shared knowledge and accept the vibration you have now.

The most important practice in riding is to be in touch with all facets of the bike and conditions of the bike. These sealants, to me,  tend to remove you somewhat from the reality of what's happening in a false security type of way.

Really?  You have the bottom line on the Most Important Practice?  The Rider's Bible According to Ricky? 

Since you know it all already - don't use Ride-On.  I really enjoy mouth diarrea from those who have no knowledge or firsthand experience on a subject but criticize others for trying new things.  Stick with the old, don't benefit from new technology or other's experiences.  Tell you what - cling to your ignorance then try to get a tow truck on your phone for the puncture you just got on the road 200 miles north of West Undershirt, Nevada. 

[ValkFlyer]

A little sensitive are we?   

[Black Dog]

Mark,

Thanks for the report...  Sumptin' to think about 

I put more stock in your actual 'ride report', your total miles on two wheels, the number of bikes you ride, and the area in which you put on most of yer miles, that that of some self proclaimed expert (in all fields, it seems  ).

Serious question here...  Is there a 'mess', or will it make changing a worn out tire any more difficult, when the time comes?

Black Dog

[MarkT]

Mark,

Thanks for the report...  Sumptin' to think about 

I put more stock in your actual 'ride report', your total miles on two wheels, the number of bikes you ride, and the area in which you put on most of yer miles, that that of some self proclaimed expert (in all fields, it seems  ).

Serious question here...  Is there a 'mess', or will it make changing a worn out tire any more difficult, when the time comes?

Black Dog

Thanks Black Dog.  Actually I do have some veracity on the subjects I report on.  I don't present guesses as fact, so you don't see me commenting in areas I'm weak in, except presented as opinion.  So your "self proclaimed expert in all fields" comment is at least unjustified.  I could make a large list of areas of expertise on the Valk you have never seen me comment on as I don't claim to know much there.  Now expecting flames from that...

On the Ride-On mess - this one I've touched on.  No.  It washes off with a hose, and almost all of it is in the tire, centered in the tread area.  What little may be on the wheel, wipes off with a rag in seconds with no visible affect on the wheel - corrosion, etc. You can also use Ride-On again - scrape it out, rebottle and re-inject it.  However, I don't know how long it remains viable, but plan to test it.  I re-used half of what I just put into my back tire on the wing.

[Black Dog]

Mark,

My "I put more stock in your actual 'ride report', your total miles on two wheels, the number of bikes you ride, and the area in which you put on most of yer miles, that that of some self proclaimed expert (in all fields, it seems)" comment, was in no way directed at you, but at another poster in this thread...  Your ride report was just right, your total miles are probably 'up there' in the top 10% of this club, yer Wing and Valk get tossed around like sport bikes, and riding the mountain roads in CO, is no small deal 

Good to hear about the 'clean up' of the Ride-On, just may need to try some at the next rubber change.

Black Dog

[Jess from VA]

Everything I've read and heard about Ride-On is good. 

I think I'd still get a new tire balanced at install, then add the Ride-On.

[Farther]

I use Ride-On for the last two sets of tires and like it.  I am fortunate to have a good Valk mechanic and he had nothing bad to say about the Ride-On when changing my tires.  I will use it in my next set of tires too.

[98valk]

I use Ride-On for the last two sets of tires and like it.  I am fortunate to have a good Valk mechanic and he had nothing bad to say about the Ride-On when changing my tires.  I will use it in my next set of tires too.

did u get extra tire mileage than before using it?
thanks

[MarkT]

Mark,

My "I put more stock in your actual 'ride report', your total miles on two wheels, the number of bikes you ride, and the area in which you put on most of yer miles, that that of some self proclaimed expert (in all fields, it seems)" comment, was in no way directed at you, but at another poster in this thread...  Your ride report was just right, your total miles are probably 'up there' in the top 10% of this club, yer Wing and Valk get tossed around like sport bikes, and riding the mountain roads in CO, is no small deal 

Good to hear about the 'clean up' of the Ride-On, just may need to try some at the next rubber change.

Black Dog

Misunderstood you there.  I see it now.  Sorry bout that.

Peace.  mrt

[X Ring]

I've installed it in the rear tire of my I/S.  I installed the amount Ride On has in their dosage table plus an additional 25% for severe usage per their instructions.  When my front tire needs replacing I will be installing the severe dosage amount in that one also.

Marty

[Red Diamond]

 cling to your ignorance then try to get a tow truck on your phone for the puncture you just got on the road 200 miles north of West Undershirt, Nevada. 


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 You had a flat there too? The benefit to me with "Ride-on would be the piece of mind knowing that if I did have a flat or repairable puncture, is that I have a good chance of getting to a shop for repairs. That being said, I don't think I would rely on it to balance the wheels of my bike. But then again, I wouldn't discount the benefits reported by others who have used it. The purpose of others reporting their findings is to inform those of us who haven't tried it. If you like riding the way I and a lot of others do, which is far from home and anywhere else, some day you may wish you used it or at least had a can of it.

[John U.]

I use Ride-on also. I have seen it's ability to balance a tire. I've gotten good service from 4 tires using it with no cupping, just smooth running.
I have to agree that you need to inspect your tires for nails, screws, etc. I found a well worn common nail, a 12 penny I think., in a rear Metezler. I pulled the nail (which wasn't leaking air), plugged it with a mushroom plug I got from Patchboy and rode it another 8,000 miles with no air loss other than normal.

We all have to consider the reports from others and make our own decision. The stuff didn't harm my aluminum rims, washes off with water as already mentioned, so there doesn't seem to be much of a risk in trying it.
If you're not convinced about dynamic balancing then balance the wheel the usual way before adding the Ride-on.

For me getting a flat is enough of a hazzard and a pain to deal with that the cost of Ride-on is worth the peace of mind. No affiliation,etc.

[Gear Jammer]

I use it in both tires. The rear is a CT, and put in the Ride On immediately after having it mounted. No balancing with weights, and no vibrations either.  Being non flammable, it may also help to extinguish the flaming car tire fire I'm inevitably going to experience              That was a joke guys !! 

[KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)]

Mark,

My "I put more stock in your actual 'ride report', your total miles on two wheels, the number of bikes you ride, and the area in which you put on most of yer miles, that that of some self proclaimed expert (in all fields, it seems)" comment, was in no way directed at you, but at another poster in this thread...  Your ride report was just right, your total miles are probably 'up there' in the top 10% of this club, yer Wing and Valk get tossed around like sport bikes, and riding the mountain roads in CO, is no small deal  

Good to hear about the 'clean up' of the Ride-On, just may need to try some at the next rubber change.

Black Dog

Misunderstood you there.  I see it now.  Sorry bout that.

Peace.  mrt

Someone call me..........

[Jim Ross]

LMAO.....There is no Westundershirt in Nevada, dammit, it is EAST Undershirt for all you uninformed bozos who have never been to the Silver State!
For a real challenge, try riding Hwy 50 across Nevada in July with millions of Mormon Crickets squished on the road......if the slime doesn't get you the smell will!

[fudgie]

For a real challenge, try riding Hwy 50 across Nevada in July with millions of Mormon Crickets squished on the road......if the slime doesn't get you the smell will!

I bet so. Last year in SD the grasshoppers were thick. Covered the road. Sounded like you were running over crackers. They would jump all over you.

[Gryphon Rider]

What is special about the motorcycle formula vs. the auto (car/SUV) formula?  I see on Ride-on's web site that they do not recommend the auto formula for motorcycles.  Mark, I assume you used the motorcycle formula?

[X Ring]

For a real challenge, try riding Hwy 50 across Nevada in July with millions of Mormon Crickets squished on the road......if the slime doesn't get you the smell will!

I bet so. Last year in SD the grasshoppers were thick. Covered the road. Sounded like you were running over crackers. They would jump all over you.

God, that reminds me of Bergstrom AFB in Austin during the summer.  Crickets were attracted to the aircraft parking ramps by the warmth of the cement and the ball park lights.  Come morning the street sweepers would have to go out and clean up all the ones that got run over or stepped on during the night.

Marty

[Hotrodwing]

Been using RIDE ON for 2yrs now  Just had my front tire replaced before the Hillbilly ride and all of the ride on stuck to the inside of the tire nothing on the rim at all. Took the old tire home and use a hose and the stuff washed right off with a little pressure.  I am sold

[Highbinder]

I use to be a dealer for Ride-On, I would go to rally's and install it there....I buy it by the 5 gallon buckets and use it in all my vehicles including lawnmowers and ATV's...never had a problem with it and as long as it stays in its own environment, meaning it remains in the same air space, if you have a continuous leak and keep adding air it will dry out....I left it in a container with a piece of steel wool in the center and looked at it 5 years later and it was still viable and no rust on the wool...as far as balancing, it will do the job, much like dyna-beads, I had many customers call me and tell me that is stopped there wobble or smoothed out their ride....when I toured their factory, watched them drive over a 10 penny nail and drove away, when we checked the air pressure the tire had only lost 2 lbs of air...good stuff in my opinion and still use it to this day...

[Jim Ross]

MarkT and Highbinder:
I certainly appreciate your input and experience with this product. 
I am going to have a new front tire installed on Monday and I have been wavering about adding the Ride-On.  I have a package of it that I bought about 2 years ago and never opened.  Maybe now is the time!
MarkT, you are a cursed good writer, (and I suspect a good litigator, too).  I always appreciate good writing, spelling and punctuation.  Sometimes, though I think you are just a teeny bit too "strong" with your written responses.  Most of the folks on this board are just regular folks, like me, no need to come down quite too hard on them.  Tact, Brother.
Cheers,
Jim

[X Ring]

MarkT and Highbinder:
I certainly appreciate your input and experience with this product. 
I am going to have a new front tire installed on Monday and I have been wavering about adding the Ride-On.  I have a package of it that I bought about 2 years ago and never opened.  Maybe now is the time!
MarkT, you are a cursed good writer, (and I suspect a good litigator, too).  I always appreciate good writing, spelling and punctuation.  Sometimes, though I think you are just a teeny bit too "strong" with your written responses.  Most of the folks on this board are just regular folks, like me, no need to come down quite too hard on them.  Tact, Brother.
Cheers,
Jim

You're going to need more than one bottle.  You should go to the dosage table on Ride-On's website and look up the tire size and see how much it needs then decide it you're going to use the normal or severe use dose.

Marty 

[9Ball]

Mark,

I put more stock in your actual 'ride report', your total miles on two wheels, the number of bikes you ride, and the area in which you put on most of yer miles, that that of some self proclaimed expert (in all fields, it seems  ).

Black Dog

priceless.....

[Cliff]

What is special about the motorcycle formula vs. the auto (car/SUV) formula?  I see on Ride-on's web site that they do not recommend the auto formula for motorcycles.  Mark, I assume you used the motorcycle formula?

This is the answer they gave me...........>>....

Dear Cliff,


If your tire was on a trike, then I would suggest you used the Auto Formula. However, if it is on a motorcycle with two wheels, then the motorcycle formula is a better choice. What differentiates are formulations is the application that the product is going to be used in (speed, expected life cycle, tire and wheels materials, operating temperatures etc.). Motorcycles normally accelerate much faster than cars and their tires are also used for cornering. The motorcycle formula is designed to spread faster and react to an injury faster. Most motorcycle tires last less than 30,000 miles and in fact many people are lucky to get 20,000 miles. Car tires can be expected to easily go twice as far.


The choice is yours. Again, in your application with a car tire on a motorcycle you could easily go either way.
Sincerely,

Mark Farkhan
Inovex Industries, Inc.
45681 Oakbrook Court
Unit 102
Sterling , Virginia 20166
U.S.A.

[Gear Jammer]

Thanks Cliff,, you've answered a nagging question I've had since putting it in the rear CT 

[Gryphon Rider]

What is special about the motorcycle formula vs. the auto (car/SUV) formula?  I see on Ride-on's web site that they do not recommend the auto formula for motorcycles.  Mark, I assume you used the motorcycle formula?

This is the answer they gave me...........>>....

Thanks Cliff!