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[BigAl]

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

It will always amaze you and your friends.

[x]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

[Stars and Stripes]

As I watched it this morning our debt was going down???  Maybe we don't spend as much on Sunday

[3fan4life]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

MAYBE our elected officials from all political parties need to learn to live within their means and not spend money that they don't have.

[x]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

MAYBE our elected officials from all political parties need to learn to live within their means and not spend money that they don't have.

And maybe we could balance the need for expenditures and taxes against the mindless call for less taxes, with no regard to consequences.

[sugerbear]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

MAYBE our elected officials from all political parties need to learn to live within their means and not spend money that they don't have.

And maybe we could balance the need for expenditures and taxes against the mindless call for less taxes, with no regard to consequences.

correct me if I'm wrong(i'm sure you will), but living and working in singapore, do you pay any american taxes?
do you contribute anything to the american economy, that would allow you to use the word "we"

just curious

[CajunRider]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

If I had ever brought home a finance report like that to my parents, they would have just let me fall flat on my face... and then ask me what I learned from my stupidity.  They would NOT have given me a bigger allowance.  

Now that I'm on my own, if I bring home a finance report like that, I'd be bankrupt.  My boss would NOT give me a raise just because I needed money.  Then I'd have to ask myself if I learned anything from my stupidity.  

I say we treat the government like a bunch of stupid children (the way they've been acting) and let them all fall flat on their face in the next series of elections... along with the big banks that gave out too many loans and big car companies that build cars people don't want and charge $50K for them.  

Better yet... lock the government salaries to the deficit... for every percent deficit, they loose a percent of pay, EVERY YEAR.  For every percent surplus, they get a percent raise.  Let's see if they can learn to spend within their means that way.  

[3fan4life]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

MAYBE our elected officials from all political parties need to learn to live within their means and not spend money that they don't have.

And maybe we could balance the need for expenditures and taxes against the mindless call for less taxes, with no regard to consequences.

Spoken like a true liberal democrat.

It is very easy to spend other people's money.

I seem to recall someone asking you if you sent in EXTRA tax money to help out with that debt.

I don't recall you giving them an answer.

Besides, I wasn't making a point for lowering our taxes.

However, Raising our taxes while the government continues to SPEND SPEND SPEND SPEND does nothing to solve the problem.

My point is:


Our Government needs to learn to live with the tax money that they collect and STOP spending money that they DON'T have and CAN'T pay back.

As a "Common" citizen I must live within my means, our government should have to do the same.
 

[x]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

MAYBE our elected officials from all political parties need to learn to live within their means and not spend money that they don't have.

And maybe we could balance the need for expenditures and taxes against the mindless call for less taxes, with no regard to consequences.

correct me if I'm wrong(i'm sure you will), but living and working in singapore, do you pay any american taxes?
do you contribute anything to the american economy, that would allow you to use the word "we"

just curious

I pay lots of American taxes.  Since the US doesn't have a tax treaty with Singapore, I pay US income tax on my Singapore salary, in addition to the Singapore tax I pay.  I own property and pay all taxes associated with same.  I hold investments in the US for which I pay taxes on any appreciation.
 
You seem to think I am disconnected from the US, whereas I am simply a US citizen working overseas.  I get screwed when it comes to taxes because overseas Americans don't have much clout.  The double taxation bit is the worst.

And, I'll say it again... the US tax rate is as low as it has been since 1958.  You want to put this country back on track?  Then tax increases are an essential element of an overall plan.  You don't want to consider this?  Then you really don't give a sh*t about the country because, right now, you cannot extract enough spending cuts to make a difference without plunging this country into a second recession.

[BigAl]

It's actually Borrow Borrow Borrow.

Cause we can't afford the debts we have.

Interest Interest Interest is building us out of a GDP.

Japan owes 200 percent of thier GDP.

Yes you can check on that.



Soon the chickens will come home to roost.

Obama and the Dems hope that is after 2012 and they keep the POTUS we have in there.

Four More should be no more.

For this outfit we need them to leave or be kicked out.

Vote but be aware of the facts.

This country is in decline big time.

If you can't see that put your glasses back on.

The world does not need us to survive as we sometimes think.

They can get along without the U.S. in a Heartbeat.

We better start getting a handle on this debt ourselves before someone comes in to force us.

You say it can't happen, just look at Greece , Portugal, Latvia, and the list goes on.

[RoadKill]

 <sarcasm>If we just take back all the money these rich people are hoarding and give it back to Joe the plumber,retired Annie,wheel chair Willie and the OCTO-MOM then there wont be any rich people sucking us dry , our dis advantaged will not be so needy and the poor people will keep paying down the debt and supporting infrastructure. Poor people create jobs ! We need less Rich and alot more poor !  </sarcasm>

[BigAl]

That's the ticket.

Dems know the argument they have is just bating the repubs.

Rich folks are still gonna be rich.

My God most of them are Governors and Congressman.

Mayor of New York did not even take a salary.

Last Governor of Tennessee, Bredeson, A democrat, rich as all get out, a good Governor and he did not take a salary.

I think maybe the people who take public service elected jobs should do just like them and take no salary.

They are mostly well off anyway, so why should we pay them they volunteered for the job and were elected.

ANd are rich too, that is a good argument.

The argument now is if we default all hell will break loose , when in fact it will not.

More kicking the can down the road.

Checks will still go out and it will get worked out in the future.

Obama will again look ineffective as he already does .

SO what's the big show all about.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I pay lots of American taxes.  Since the US doesn't have a tax treaty with Singapore, I pay US income tax on my Singapore salary, in addition to the Singapore tax I pay.  I own property and pay all taxes associated with same.  I hold investments in the US for which I pay taxes on any appreciation.
 
You seem to think I am disconnected from the US, whereas I am simply a US citizen working overseas.  I get screwed when it comes to taxes because overseas Americans don't have much clout.  The double taxation bit is the worst.

And, I'll say it again... the US tax rate is as low as it has been since 1958.  You want to put this country back on track?  Then tax increases are an essential element of an overall plan.  You don't want to consider this?  Then you really don't give a sh*t about the country because, right now, you cannot extract enough spending cuts to make a difference without plunging this country into a second recession.

[/quote]

In my opinion, you don't pay near enough taxes.  You complain "we" don't pay enough, so step up and pay 90% of your income or more.  You talk big about spending other people's money....
The government will raise taxes, then will spend more.  That's pretty much a given.  They could double our taxes and then they would triple the spending.  I make substantially less than our "representatives", but I would bet that I contribute more to this country than they do.
So, how about it?  Write a check for 90% of your income to date (from when you started working) and mail it on over to good ol' Uncle Sam.  I am sure he can do more with it than you can, by your reasoning.   Put up or shut up.
It's kind of like those people who advocate reducing the world's population by 80%.  I always want to say to them, "you first."
The way I see if, if we get taxed further, the government will have to spend more on entitlements to "those less fortunate" which just adds to more government control over our lives (and more spending).
Maybe that's why some people want more taxes, so the government has more control?
How about this?  The government controls their out of control spending (pork projects, entitlements, etc) and prove to US (the taxpayers) that they can be responsible with OUR hard earned money, then, just maybe, people will warm to the idea of paying a little more.  I am guessing that will never happen.

[shortleg]

  Mr. Eagle it seems to me and most people liveing in America
that you only spend what you have.
  Not a tax problem ,just a spending problem.
  When you live here you can comment.
             Shortleg[Dave]

[Master Blaster]

problem is big gvt has forgotten they work for us, and go their own way.  The libs see a like minded potus and start pushing agendas that they have only dreamed about for years.  It is the progressive liberal mindset that has put us where we are now.  Example is military, which in a few years will be more concerned with the gay agenda than protecting the country.  If you want your military career to go anywhere you better not buck it.  The schools that are teaching our little ones there is no gender.  The belief that the public is stupid and every aspect of our life must be controlled.  The basic idea that nothing we earn or own is really ours, but really belongs to the gvt to do whatever they think is best with. In case you didnt notice potus is already starting the push for our guns.  The housing bubble was caused by the agenda that everyone deserves and should have a home no matter if they can afford it or not.  the abomination of abortionon demand so that irresponsible people can use it for birth controll.  in some ethnic groups it is almost to the point of genocide.  The whole sham of entitlements that keep entire generations from becomming productive adults, and the blatent class warfare. Radical energy policies that wont let us develop own abundant resouces.  There is no end to it.  what the majority desires doesnt matter, its what the minority or left wing kook pushes that is important.  Every state should be a right to work state and union membrship up to the individual.   we desperately need term limits, and pols that are not for sale to the highest bidder.  we also neeed pols that can make decisions based on something beside potential votes.

[musclehead]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

but our president said it 'doesn't make sense to raise taxes in a bad economy'

[musclehead]

Ya know, you _could_ raise taxes and make a dent in this mess?????

MAYBE our elected officials from all political parties need to learn to live within their means and not spend money that they don't have.

And maybe we could balance the need for expenditures and taxes against the mindless call for less taxes, with no regard to consequences.

 ok we'll increase taxes when the economy is really recovering, not this stumbling faltering zombie of an economy

correct me if I'm wrong(i'm sure you will), but living and working in singapore, do you pay any american taxes?
do you contribute anything to the american economy, that would allow you to use the word "we"

just curious

I pay lots of American taxes.  Since the US doesn't have a tax treaty with Singapore, I pay US income tax on my Singapore salary, in addition to the Singapore tax I pay.  I own property and pay all taxes associated with same.  I hold investments in the US for which I pay taxes on any appreciation.
 
You seem to think I am disconnected from the US, whereas I am simply a US citizen working overseas.  I get screwed when it comes to taxes because overseas Americans don't have much clout.  The double taxation bit is the worst.

And, I'll say it again... the US tax rate is as low as it has been since 1958.  You want to put this country back on track?  Then tax increases are an essential element of an overall plan.  You don't want to consider this?  Then you really don't give a sh*t about the country because, right now, you cannot extract enough spending cuts to make a difference without plunging this country into a second recession.

my text disappeared  Mr. SE you pay taxes, therefore you have 'skin in the game' and can speak your mind on taxes. no matter how wrong you might be 

[alph]

As I watched it this morning our debt was going down???  Maybe we don't spend as much on Sunday

that's because minnesota is still shut down!! 

[MP]

Gov't spending has gone from under 20% of GDP to around 25% in the last few years.

We need to cut spending, not increase taxes.  Increasing taxes will cut jobs, not create them.  Unless all you want are gov't jobs.

MP

[..]

If you took every cent over $250,000 that the wicked rich earnt in one year you would gather enough money to keep the Federal Govt running for about 6 months.

Yep, let's tax everyone more and more and more and more and more.

Yep, let's not bother trying to rein in Federal, State and County speniding.

Let's not forget that BOTH political parties are willing to spend taxpayers $$$ to retain their political power.