Tropic traveler
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« on: August 15, 2011, 06:09:50 PM » |
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Going on a short 1,000 mile trip in 3 weeks with my Valk which has 108,000 miles. I have been putting off checking the timing belts but finally pulled the cover tonight. The belts look perfect, very little dust & dirt with proper tension on both belts.
I really don't want to tear into it right now so soon before a trip but I do want to replace them eventually. Already have the new belts in the parts stash. I have plenty of other things I'd like to do to the '99 & Kim's Valk with my time right now.
Question to you guys, replace them now or bolt the cover back on & go?
Anybody ever lose a timing belt??
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 06:18:51 PM » |
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The teeth clean? No chips/wear? Bolt it back on and go. Check 'em again at 150,000.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 06:34:43 PM » |
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Yep, teeth clean on both belts & pulleys.  Rotated the crank to zero & all the marks are spot on. Guess I wasted $40 on new belts didn't I?  Well, I guess I'll get to pulling the front calipers on Kim's bike to de-crud the RH side. The "crickets" are getting louder & I feel a little bit of slow to back off coming from the front brakes again. Also the de-cel popping is driving me nuts on the '99. I'll replace the intake O-rings & see if that helps!  |
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'13 F6B red for Kim
'97 Valkyrie Tourer r&w, OLDFRT's ride now!
'98 Valkyrie Tourer burgundy & cream traded for Kim's F6B
'05 SS 750 traded for Kim's F6B
'99 Valkyrie black & silver Tourer, traded in on my F6B
'05 Triumph R3 gone but not forgotten!
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 06:58:10 PM » |
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I just replaced mine at 102,500 miles and the old belts looked great but I did put the new ones on because I had them and it was a part so why not. I think the bike runs a little better but it might be in my head. But I think you could kept on riding with the old belts.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 07:43:20 PM » |
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With that many miles I would remove one and give it the close inspection bending it backwards, looking for cracking. It only takes a few minutes. If its good dont even give them another thought.....if its bad youll be glad you did it
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 07:50:15 PM » |
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Eddie, I'm with the rest on this, change them when you're not faced with time constraints. However, I'm reminded of what one old timer told me once re. those belts on my Wing; "They're guaranteed for the life of the engine. You break a belt, that's the life of your engine." But, he also added the same suggestions re. the existence of deposits on the pulleys, etc., saying that if everything is clean and the teeth aren't rounded, you're good for a while longer. Personally, I've run the original belts on a couple old GL1000's much higher....over 200k on one.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 05:03:11 AM » |
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My IS had 36K and 11 years when I changed the belts. They looked fine but when removed about a dozen of the teeth were starting to crack away from the belt. I suggest replacing the belts since it sounds like you already have them in hand and if they break you have a big problem. Peace of mind for the next 100k.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 06:41:12 AM » |
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Timing belts rarely show signs of wear. They go from looking good to broke real quick. Sort of like a trip to Vegas:-) If a belt breaks, you will be in for a very expensive valve job and possibly some pistons. Change the belts according to the schedule.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 06:43:27 AM » |
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While our Valks have different requirements than cars (change at 80K to 105 K or 10 years for cars... No age requirements on the Valk), I look at it this way... Our bikes are getting on in years, and if you already have the belts, why not change them? 10 year old belts may look good, but it's cheap insurance and a buncha peace of mind to change them out... It is a fairly easy job  My .02 and worth every penny Black Dog |
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 07:44:53 AM » |
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I changed mine at around 75K when I installed the trigger wheel. They still looked good, but now I know I won't have to deal with them for a long time.
I agree with what others have said here. Change them if you have time before your trip.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 08:06:49 AM » |
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Heck, if you go to the trouble to remove the cover, it's not that much more to replace the belts. Especially if you have the belts on hand.
Following the correct advice on replacing the belts will give many more miles of worry free riding.
Nothing worse that riding the bike in unfamiliar territory all the time worrying about this or that breaking down.
Jus sayin'
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 09:11:23 AM » |
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You have my # for a ride and trailer when they brake... Change them now.....
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 09:13:00 AM » |
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Had 40000+ miles on mine when i changed them. 12 years old. Very cheap insurance and a way big piece of mind. For an hour of your time and how ever many $$$$ you spent fer the belts-get er done.  If-i know very big word-if a belt self destructs it duz take the engine with it!! Granted-a small percentage thing here.  Do you really want to push your luck on really CHEAP insurance?? My .02 cents and i'll spot ya a nickel. Sides-ya need the nickel to show other folks how smooooth our rides are. RIDE SAFE. |
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 10:25:05 AM » |
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Y'all know the schedule says "inspect at 100,000 miles" yah? |
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2011, 01:00:30 PM » |
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Y'all know the schedule says "inspect at 100,000 miles" yah? Yup-i do. When i changed mine out for lack of a better description the new belts just felt better. And the new belts as compared to what came off were a LOT more flexible. And daniel i know you know WAY more bout these machines than i ever will. The $40.00 i spent on the belts and the 2 hours(with cleaning) i spent changing them out-priceless. Besides i took advantage of being ABLE to do it now. Look at it this way-i'll NEVER have to do anything but look at them the rest of the time i'm above ground. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2011, 06:53:02 PM » |
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I got the gates just two weeks ago for $38 shipped to my door. Removed and replaced in a couple hours, taking my time, cleaning bolts to re-locktite and checking all the associated parts. Belts looked just fine, only have 50K miles ,but 11 years of age. Before my 5K mile ride in 14 days figured $38 and couple hours is well worth it.
Maybe it's because I had a timing belt break on my SUV last year and I had to replace the cylinder head cause that was cheaper than having 8 valves re-built, honed and all that jazz....... $500 and three days of 12 hrs + I learned my lesson.
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2011, 01:36:35 PM » |
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The book say to change them @ 10 years or 100,000 miles which ever comes first. It takes about 45 minutes to do and it is pretty cheap insurance to do them especially if you have them in stock
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2011, 01:56:29 PM » |
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While our Valks have different requirements than cars (change at 80K to 105 K or 10 years for cars... No age requirements on the Valk), I look at it this way... Our bikes are getting on in years, and if you already have the belts, why not change them? 10 year old belts may look good, but it's cheap insurance and a buncha peace of mind to change them out... It is a fairly easy job My .02 and worth every penny Black Dog +1so now you have 4.cts.. |
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