John Schmidt
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« on: September 13, 2011, 05:12:20 PM » |
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Ran across this statement by Warren Buffet. Wouldn't work because everybody would have to vote themselves out of a job. I'd love to be a fly on the wall if someone ever introduced such a bill, just to see the look on all their faces. That alone would be hysterical. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes.... You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election." Warren Buffet
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The Anvil
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 05:27:36 PM » |
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Good luck with that in a time of war.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 08:28:36 PM » |
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Term limits would go a long ways towards fixing our mess.
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Jabba
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 06:27:57 AM » |
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I think the FairTax would go further.
If you give them term limits, there is NO accountability. Take what they can and RUN!!!
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The Anvil
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 07:04:01 AM » |
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I think the FairTax would go further.
If you give them term limits, there is NO accountability. Take what they can and RUN!!!
Jabba
Besides which, term limits already exist. It's called voting. Also, term limits infringe on my right to elect the man I want for the job. Term limits are a solution for lazy people who don't want to pay attention to what the people they elect have been doing. They want to to be saved from themselves.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 07:10:29 AM » |
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The office of the Presidency has term limits. It was enacted after FDR's 4 terms. Jes sayin'
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 07:27:39 AM » |
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The office of the Presidency has term limits. It was enacted after FDR's 4 terms. Jes sayin'
Did I say I like that? For better or worse I and my fellow Americans should be able to elect whomever I want. If I keep electing the same dopes then we deserve what we get. It also bears mentioning that it takes a few terms for senators and congressmen to become truly effective. The flipside is that they can obtain too much power. But there are better waysto curb that than outright term limits.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 08:00:59 AM » |
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It also bears mentioning that it takes a few terms for senators and congressmen to become truly effective.
Under the current system that would be true. The longer a congressman is in office the more seniority he or she has which translates into committee assignments and chairmanships.
I beleive that if I elect a Senator that Senator should be able to represent me with the same level of representation in his first term as another State's Senator has in his sixth term. That every Senator and Representive has an equal opportunity to be assigned committee assignments and chairmanships.
Term Limits would do that.
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Mike Luken
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 08:07:50 AM » |
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I work in defense and the moron unionistas are all in the tank for those who vote us out of a job.
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 08:11:44 AM » |
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 Man, I hate agreeing with Anvil, but he’s right. We already have term limits. It’s called voting. Plus, term limits are unconstitutional, including the one imposed on the Presidency. Of course; being ‘unconstitutional’ just doesn’t mean anything anymore. In honesty though; I’m glad we have one on how long someone can park his rear in the White House. My position may be inconsistent, but man, the voters have become so stupid, easy to influence and dependent on ‘big brother’ to care for them (explains Liberals, eh?) we’d still have Clinton in the White House is there wasn’t limits.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 08:30:08 AM » |
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I thought that I didn't like Clinton but in retrospect I'd take Slick Willie over what we have now.  Man, I hate agreeing with Anvil, but he’s right. We already have term limits. It’s called voting. Plus, term limits are unconstitutional, including the one imposed on the Presidency. Of course; being ‘unconstitutional’ just doesn’t mean anything anymore. In honesty though; I’m glad we have one on how long someone can park his rear in the White House. My position may be inconsistent, but man, the voters have become so stupid, easy to influence and dependent on ‘big brother’ to care for them (explains Liberals, eh?) we’d still have Clinton in the White House is there wasn’t limits.
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Jabba
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2011, 10:14:32 AM » |
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I thought that I didn't like Clinton but in retrospect I'd take Slick Willie over what we have now.
Yep. Every day of the week and TWICE on Sunday. He's still a liar though. But I'd suspect they all are. Jabba
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 12:33:07 PM » |
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If you give them term limits, there is NO accountability. Take what they can and RUN!!!
Jabba
Now, they just "Take what they can and run" AGAIN!! r
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2011, 12:47:29 PM » |
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I can't listen to Warren Buffet any longer. He, and several other RICH left wingers, complain that the rich don't pay enough taxes. Yet,......he, and the others, haven't offered anything more than they've been asked for. Put up, or shut up, Warren.
He also stated that he pays less of a percentage in taxes than his secretary. Another brilliant sound bite for the left. Unfortunately, like all his other hot air, he is wrong. His secreatary makes a salary on which she is taxed. He doesn't. His income is based on capitol gains, which is taxed differently. Aaaand, he paid millions more than his secretary did.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2011, 04:06:01 PM » |
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I think the FairTax would go further.
If you give them term limits, there is NO accountability. Take what they can and RUN!!!
Jabba
Besides which, term limits already exist. It's called voting. Also, term limits infringe on my right to elect the man I want for the job. Term limits are a solution for lazy people who don't want to pay attention to what the people they elect have been doing. They want to to be saved from themselves. in some ways yeah, but alot and I mean ALOT of people say something like 'they all need to go(except for my guy/gal)' term limits would never pass anyway, would you vote to give yourself a pink slip? it would take an amendment to have term limits
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2011, 04:11:30 PM » |
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in some ways yeah, but alot and I mean ALOT of people say something like 'they all need to go(except for my guy/gal)' But that's exactly what I mean when I say they want to be saved from themselves. But could you imagine the uproar if you do manage to elect an effective legislator only to have to clear the spot for some choad in a few terms?
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2011, 04:29:04 PM » |
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I can't listen to Warren Buffet any longer. He, and several other RICH left wingers, complain that the rich don't pay enough taxes. Yet,......he, and the others, haven't offered anything more than they've been asked for. Put up, or shut up, Warren.
He also stated that he pays less of a percentage in taxes than his secretary. Another brilliant sound bite for the left. Unfortunately, like all his other hot air, he is wrong. His secreatary makes a salary on which she is taxed. He doesn't. His income is based on capitol gains, which is taxed differently. Aaaand, he paid millions more than his secretary did.
Aaaaannnd he's also delinquent for a few million if I heard correctly. there is an address for the IRS that they accept additional taxes, tried to find it, all you need to do is send them a check 
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FloridaValkRyder
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2011, 05:02:34 PM » |
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The office of the Presidency has term limits. It was enacted after FDR's 4 terms. Jes sayin'
Did I say I like that? For better or worse I and my fellow Americans should be able to elect whomever I want. If I keep electing the same dopes then we deserve what we get. It also bears mentioning that it takes a few terms for senators and congressmen to become truly effective. The flipside is that they can obtain too much power. But there are better waysto curb that than outright term limits. Problem there is we allow dopes to vote. Maybe we should have a voter test. I'm just saying.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2011, 05:31:55 PM » |
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make them do what they promised. if they can't show clearly that they tried to do that, not eligible for re-election.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2011, 05:35:42 PM » |
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The office of the Presidency has term limits. It was enacted after FDR's 4 terms. Jes sayin'
Did I say I like that? For better or worse I and my fellow Americans should be able to elect whomever I want. If I keep electing the same dopes then we deserve what we get. It also bears mentioning that it takes a few terms for senators and congressmen to become truly effective. The flipside is that they can obtain too much power. But there are better waysto curb that than outright term limits. Problem there is we allow dopes to vote. Maybe we should have a voter test. I'm just saying. you might have a point there, those who don't know how many states there are. those that don't know the meaning of "e pluribus unum" (a gal tried to tell me it was spanish  ) makes me roll my 
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 07:06:26 PM » |
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Plus, term limits are unconstitutional, including the one imposed on the Presidency. Of course; being ‘unconstitutional’ just doesn’t mean anything anymore.[/quote]
Term Limits for US Congress as a statute are unconstitutional. This is because the term limits are set in the US Constitution and cannot be superceeded by State law or Federal statute.
However, if Term Limits are added to the Constitution as an amendment, as the Presidential term limits are, they would, by definiton, be Constitutional.
The main reason I like Term Limits is that limits the concentration of power. Your 6 term Senator would always trump my first term Senator in their power to represent me. This shouldn't be. Nor should my 12 term Representitive have the power, by virtue of longevity, to trump your 1st term Representitive in representitive authority. The system is set up so that we are compelled to re-elect even terrible people to their positions because they hold and can attain more power and representitive authority because of their seniority.
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Mike Luken
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 10:30:57 PM » |
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Plus, term limits are unconstitutional, including the one imposed on the Presidency. Of course; being ‘unconstitutional’ just doesn’t mean anything anymore.
Term Limits for US Congress as a statute are unconstitutional. This is because the term limits are set in the US Constitution and cannot be superceeded by State law or Federal statute. However, if Term Limits are added to the Constitution as an amendment, as the Presidential term limits are, they would, by definiton, be Constitutional. The main reason I like Term Limits is that limits the concentration of power. Your 6 term Senator would always trump my first term Senator in their power to represent me. This shouldn't be. Nor should my 12 term Representitive have the power, by virtue of longevity, to trump your 1st term Representitive in representitive authority. The system is set up so that we are compelled to re-elect even terrible people to their positions because they hold and can attain more power and representitive authority because of their seniority. [/quote] Even a constitutional amendment can violate the spirit of the document.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent. But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent. Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep. In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.
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