VTX 1800

[Rosie]

Thinking about VTX 1300 or  1800 for my son , anyone have one ? What do you think about it ?

[blackvalk]

I have one and love it but don't get out on it now that I own a Valkyrie.

I would be willing to part with it if you are interested. I live in a suburb of Chicago.

[Chrisj CMA]

A honda dealer loaned me a VTX 1800 while they put a back tire on my Valkyrie.  I couldnt wait to get it back to them.......no comparison.  It had plenty of power and all, but I didnt care for the riding position and it didnt seem to want to turn

[..]

1300 will pretty much doi everything the 1800 will do.

[Art708]

1300 will pretty much doi everything the 1800 will do.

    I owned an '07 VTX 1800. It had fairly good power, rode well on the highway and was pretty comfortable for me.....with an Ultimate seat. However, I couldn't get past the popcorn machine sound of the twin pin engine.......drove me nuts. I kept it about 4 months and got rid of it. I rode a friend's 1300 VTX one day and didn't really care for it either. Of course I didn't care for the Stratoliner I had either. Maybe I'm Valkyrie spoiled.

[BIG--T]

Thinking about VTX 1300 or  1800 for my son , anyone have one ? What do you think about it ?

The 1300 is lighter and more nimble and handles better than a 1800. It also has good power for what it is. Now if your son is a big fellow and wants power, he may like the 1800. The 1800's are top heavy but not bad for a bigger fellow. Both are mechanically good for well over 100k miles. One guy has 135,00 on his.

[Slick]

Besides my Valk, I too have an 1800 that I bought new in 04. I love the bike, but when I'm in a quandry as to what to ride, the Big girl usually wins out-

[Kylenav]

My older brother has my late fathers '02 1800.  Has little over 65K miles and no complaints or problems.  Runs dead even with the Valk for getty up, and through the twisties.  Not the rider since we switched bikes more than once and same outcome every time.  His isn't nearly stock to say the least but doesn't have any internal work or supercharger either.  For a twin the VTX is a very solid option, and in the ol' car world "there is no replacement for displacement".

[Serk]

The 1300 is a single pin crank, so besides being smaller and less powerful than the 1800, it has all the inefficiencies and vibrations that a single pin crank brings... (To some, that might be a good thing, although I'll never understand those who prefer less powerful and shakier engines )

[BIG--T]

Besides my Valk, I too have an 1800 that I bought new in 04. I love the bike, but when I'm in a quandry as to what to ride, the Big girl usually wins out-

Kinda sounds like me! . I first took my wife to the TN/NC mountains on the Valk then went back the next weekend on the VTX and she made the comment she liked the "Cadillac" better!

I can't argue with her tho, she does ride like a Caddy compared to the X! But I did spoil her by putting on Ultimates and armrests and I'm glad I put the armrests on since she's bad to fall asleep- they keep her locked in so she won't fall off!!   I guess I'll put a solo seat on the X and that will be my "bar hopper".

[BIG--T]

1300 will pretty much doi everything the 1800 will do.

Yep except outrun it! 

[BIG--T]

The 1300 is a single pin crank, so besides being smaller and less powerful than the 1800, it has all the inefficiencies and vibrations that a single pin crank brings... (To some, that might be a good thing, although I'll never understand those who prefer less powerful and shakier engines )

Yeah I forgot about that. The 1800's dual pin crank makes it one of the smoothest v-twins out there.

[Cruzen]

Well,

You can check out this review and see for yourself how the VTX 1800 stacks up against the Valk and for that matter the Magna.  It blows me away that the 750CC Magna is faster in the quarter.  

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/performance_cruiser_comparison/index.html

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/honda_vtx1800c/index.html

Since the purchase of my Valk IS over three years ago my Magna has been religated to local and short one up trips but it still runs up there with the big boys when I want it to and when my lady is not on board it runs away from them on the twisties.

[BigAl]

I like the Plastic 1300 Chopper.

Really.

Waiting for when you can buy them for peanuts and I will pounce.

[Kylenav]

Funny you bring up the magna!  My dad sold his when he got his VTX.  Had a '97 and man that thing was quick.  Awesome sound from the V4 when it was wound up.  That things red line was over 10 grand wasn't it?  Absolutely a very fast machine. 

[Cruzen]

Funny you bring up the magna!  My dad sold his when he got his VTX.  Had a '97 and man that thing was quick.  Awesome sound from the V4 when it was wound up.  That things red line was over 10 grand wasn't it?  Absolutely a very fast machine. 

The Magna red line is right at 10k.  When riding agressively through the twisties, you ride a Magna similar to a sport bike.  Using the gear box to keep the RPM's up between 7 and 10K.  However for "NORMAL" riding the lower RPM range works quite well.  Since I had owned Magna's for 12 years before buying the Valk, I had to get used to the Valks 6500 red line.  I think I actually hit the Valks rev limiter a few times.   I am fortunite to have both and be able to enjoy what I consider to be the best two bikes on the road.

[BIG--T]

Well,

You can check out this review and see for yourself how the VTX 1800 stacks up against the Valk and for that matter the Magna.  It blows me away that the 750CC Magna is faster in the quarter.  

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/performance_cruiser_comparison/index.html

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/roadtests/honda_vtx1800c/index.html

Since the purchase of my Valk IS over three years ago my Magna has been religated to local and short one up trips but it still runs up there with the big boys when I want it to and when my lady is not on board it runs away from them on the twisties.

Yeah I've read that before. The 750 Magna is quick!  I had a V-65 Magna I wished I'd never sold, now that was another bad boy!

[BIG--T]

I like the Plastic 1300 Chopper.

Really.

Waiting for when you can buy them for peanuts and I will pounce.

I don't think it will be long and they will sell for peanuts! They're not selling too well.

[Doc Rogers]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

[Disco]

Hi Rosie,

I don't have extensive experience with a VTX1800, but I did ride a C model from N Texas to S Florida.  It pulled like a freight train, but is no Valkyrie.  Here is the thread to my ride report. 

DFG   

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,701.0.html

[Warlock]

Thinking about VTX 1300 or  1800 for my son , anyone have one ? What do you think about it ?

I use to own a VTX 1300. I had put a jet kit, pipes, and a 1800 rear end in mine. Mine would run very well. Quarter mile was real close to the (Stock)Valkyrie and 1800. Besides  I could wipe 1800's in the curves, now I can't say that about a Valkyrie. Bike handled very well. Never owned a 1800, but good bikes. The 1300 is a lot more forgiving than a 1800. I had bought the 1300 as a second bike but sold it and bought another Valkyrie. Loved the 1300, but just not a Valkyrie. Also my 1300 could cruise all day 80 and 85 if needed. The stock seat will have to be replaced. I had a Mustang on it and kinda wished I had went with the Ultimate.
David

[BIG--T]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

Doc not to be a smart a$$, but I see you never owned a 1800. As I stated earlier the 1300 will out handle the 1800. Vibration? The 1300 is a single pin crank which gives that paint shaker feel where the 1800 is a dual pin crank - thus very smooth for a twin.

Attached fuel cap? It is a not attached. Top speed the same?? I don't think so. I've had mine at 150 mph and she still was pulling..now the speedos are about 5 off, so just say 140 mph. How can you possibly compare 65 hp to 106 and 125 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm? 
And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!
I average 40 mpg and have got 50 taking it real slow!

Now I own both and can speak with some authority. I love both bikes and they are too complete different animals. But I will say the Valkyrie is the best bike I've ever owned all wrapped in one package!! You have smoothness like I've never experienced. power, handling, ride, looks...what more can I say! 

Now to help answer Rosie, both bikes are very dependable and they are bullet proof. Setting aside all that has been mentioned, the 1800 is fuel injected where the 1300 has carbs, unless it's the new one. The FI is nice especially on cold mornings- just hit the starter and go!

Good luck on your decision, both are fine bikes.

[Kylenav]

+1 on the fuel injection.  Especially in cold mornings or when you're in the mountains.  Luckily the fat lady has plenty of power or I'd have been like the hardley guys I was laughing at when they had to turn around at 10K feet 

[designer]

I loved my VTX 1800C, but wanted more of a tourer.  I considered it a trade up when I sold it and got my Valkyrie.  Although I could of been just as happy with the 1800 if the Valkyrie I wanted hadn't came along.

[Chrisj CMA]

The one thing the 1800VTX has that I want is a beefed up final drive and spline set up.  Honda put a bearing in the flange and it cannot wiggle at all in the VTX.  Im working on a bushing idea to upgrade the Valk system, but not making fast progress......maybe Ill get working 

[big d]

rosie, it depends on size and experience of your son. i have an 1800 r with floor boards. i am @ 6'4" and @ 350 lbs. while both bikes will do what your son needs it to do, the 1800 will have the better power if he takes it on long trips or on the highway. as far as fuel economy i took it down to tennessee for the honda hoot several years back and was amazed at how comfortable it was. what also surprised me was the fuel economy. while traveling up 81 to western ny i averaged @ 43-47 highway at 70-75 mph.  should note that i also had two full size bags on my bike, one on the back seat and one on the rack. and as of now i dont plan on getting rid of it.

[Warlock]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

Doc not to be a smart a$$, but I see you never owned a 1800. As I stated earlier the 1300 will out handle the 1800. Vibration? The 1300 is a single pin crank which gives that paint shaker feel where the 1800 is a dual pin crank - thus very smooth for a twin.

Attached fuel cap? It is a not attached. Top speed the same?? I don't think so. I've had mine at 150 mph and she still was pulling..now the speedos are about 5 off, so just say 140 mph. How can you possibly compare 65 hp to 106 and 125 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm? 
And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!
I average 40 mpg and have got 50 taking it real slow!

Now I own both and can speak with some authority. I love both bikes and they are too complete different animals. But I will say the Valkyrie is the best bike I've ever owned all wrapped in one package!! You have smoothness like I've never experienced. power, handling, ride, looks...what more can I say! 

Now to help answer Rosie, both bikes are very dependable and they are bullet proof. Setting aside all that has been mentioned, the 1800 is fuel injected where the 1300 has carbs, unless it's the new one. The FI is nice especially on cold mornings- just hit the starter and go!

Good luck on your decision, both are fine bikes.

You need to go back and read my post again. I said it was close. Smokin Joe has seen this little 1300 with a 1800 rear end. And I will stick to out running a 1800 in curves. Been there and have wiped the smile off their face. The 1300 will not come close on top end with either the Valkyrie or the 1800. So next time read and understand before saying I could outrun them.
David

[BIG--T]

+1 on the fuel injection.  Especially in cold mornings or when you're in the mountains.  Luckily the fat lady has plenty of power or I'd have been like the hardley guys I was laughing at when they had to turn around at 10K feet 

    

[BIG--T]

The one thing the 1800VTX has that I want is a beefed up final drive and spline set up.  Honda put a bearing in the flange and it cannot wiggle at all in the VTX.  Im working on a bushing idea to upgrade the Valk system, but not making fast progress......maybe Ill get working 

It's ashame the driveshaft is on the opposite side bc it looks like the same set up.

[BIG--T]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

Doc not to be a smart a$$, but I see you never owned a 1800. As I stated earlier the 1300 will out handle the 1800. Vibration? The 1300 is a single pin crank which gives that paint shaker feel where the 1800 is a dual pin crank - thus very smooth for a twin.

Attached fuel cap? It is a not attached. Top speed the same?? I don't think so. I've had mine at 150 mph and she still was pulling..now the speedos are about 5 off, so just say 140 mph. How can you possibly compare 65 hp to 106 and 125 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm? 
And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!
I average 40 mpg and have got 50 taking it real slow!

Now I own both and can speak with some authority. I love both bikes and they are too complete different animals. But I will say the Valkyrie is the best bike I've ever owned all wrapped in one package!! You have smoothness like I've never experienced. power, handling, ride, looks...what more can I say! 

Now to help answer Rosie, both bikes are very dependable and they are bullet proof. Setting aside all that has been mentioned, the 1800 is fuel injected where the 1300 has carbs, unless it's the new one. The FI is nice especially on cold mornings- just hit the starter and go!

Good luck on your decision, both are fine bikes.

You need to go back and read my post again. I said it was close. Smokin Joe has seen this little 1300 with a 1800 rear end. And I will stick to out running a 1800 in curves. Been there and have wiped the smile off their face. The 1300 will not come close on top end with either the Valkyrie or the 1800. So next time read and understand before saying I could outrun them.
David

AS I said earlier Yes a 1300 WILL take the 1800 in the twisties. "Quarter mile time was real close to the stock Valkyrie and VTX 1800."  Yes I read it. I guess you turn "close" to low-mid 12'S?
So yes I read and understood. 

[BIG--T]

rosie, it depends on size and experience of your son. i have an 1800 r with floor boards. i am @ 6'4" and @ 350 lbs. while both bikes will do what your son needs it to do, the 1800 will have the better power if he takes it on long trips or on the highway. as far as fuel economy i took it down to tennessee for the honda hoot several years back and was amazed at how comfortable it was. what also surprised me was the fuel economy. while traveling up 81 to western ny i averaged @ 43-47 highway at 70-75 mph.  should note that i also had two full size bags on my bike, one on the back seat and one on the rack. and as of now i dont plan on getting rid of it.

Great advice Big D, Size and most of all experience bc it's no beginner's bike!

[Warlock]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

Doc not to be a smart a$$, but I see you never owned a 1800. As I stated earlier the 1300 will out handle the 1800. Vibration? The 1300 is a single pin crank which gives that paint shaker feel where the 1800 is a dual pin crank - thus very smooth for a twin.

Attached fuel cap? It is a not attached. Top speed the same?? I don't think so. I've had mine at 150 mph and she still was pulling..now the speedos are about 5 off, so just say 140 mph. How can you possibly compare 65 hp to 106 and 125 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm? 
And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!
I average 40 mpg and have got 50 taking it real slow!

Now I own both and can speak with some authority. I love both bikes and they are too complete different animals. But I will say the Valkyrie is the best bike I've ever owned all wrapped in one package!! You have smoothness like I've never experienced. power, handling, ride, looks...what more can I say! 

Now to help answer Rosie, both bikes are very dependable and they are bullet proof. Setting aside all that has been mentioned, the 1800 is fuel injected where the 1300 has carbs, unless it's the new one. The FI is nice especially on cold mornings- just hit the starter and go!

Good luck on your decision, both are fine bikes.

You need to go back and read my post again. I said it was close. Smokin Joe has seen this little 1300 with a 1800 rear end. And I will stick to out running a 1800 in curves. Been there and have wiped the smile off their face. The 1300 will not come close on top end with either the Valkyrie or the 1800. So next time read and understand before saying I could outrun them.
David

AS I said earlier Yes a 1300 WILL take the 1800 in the twisties. "Quarter mile time was real close to the stock Valkyrie and VTX 1800."  Yes I read it. I guess you turn "close" to low-mid 12'S?
So yes I read and understood. 

I guess you didn't read it right .Your quote And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!Just to set it straight and no confusion.
David

[BIG--T]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

Doc not to be a smart a$$, but I see you never owned a 1800. As I stated earlier the 1300 will out handle the 1800. Vibration? The 1300 is a single pin crank which gives that paint shaker feel where the 1800 is a dual pin crank - thus very smooth for a twin.

Attached fuel cap? It is a not attached. Top speed the same?? I don't think so. I've had mine at 150 mph and she still was pulling..now the speedos are about 5 off, so just say 140 mph. How can you possibly compare 65 hp to 106 and 125 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm? 
And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!
I average 40 mpg and have got 50 taking it real slow!

Now I own both and can speak with some authority. I love both bikes and they are too complete different animals. But I will say the Valkyrie is the best bike I've ever owned all wrapped in one package!! You have smoothness like I've never experienced. power, handling, ride, looks...what more can I say! 

Now to help answer Rosie, both bikes are very dependable and they are bullet proof. Setting aside all that has been mentioned, the 1800 is fuel injected where the 1300 has carbs, unless it's the new one. The FI is nice especially on cold mornings- just hit the starter and go!

Good luck on your decision, both are fine bikes.

You need to go back and read my post again. I said it was close. Smokin Joe has seen this little 1300 with a 1800 rear end. And I will stick to out running a 1800 in curves. Been there and have wiped the smile off their face. The 1300 will not come close on top end with either the Valkyrie or the 1800. So next time read and understand before saying I could outrun them.
David

AS I said earlier Yes a 1300 WILL take the 1800 in the twisties. "Quarter mile time was real close to the stock Valkyrie and VTX 1800."  Yes I read it. I guess you turn "close" to low-mid 12'S?
So yes I read and understood. 

I guess you didn't read it right .Your quote And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!Just to set it straight and no confusion.
David

My bad. You  said "Quarter mile was real close to the (stock) Valkyrie and 1800". 

[Warlock]

Just got rid of my VTX 1300R 3 days after I got my Valk. I liked the 1300 better than the 1800. Rode them both, had lots of friends with 1800's, most of them preferred the ride of the 1800.

As for vibration, to difference between the two is minimal... it's a Honda... what vibration?

The 1800 is built with a few better parts here and there, (dual brake calipers, hydraulic clutch, attached fuel cap, etc) but doesn't handle nearly as well as the 1300 in the twisties. It is too top heavy and the center of gravity is just...odd, for lack of a better word.

The 1300 was a wonderful bike that just required a few minor tweaks. The shock bushings were junk. For less than $10 including shipping you can get a set of the 1800 bushings online and swap them out. (Same size/shape but the 1800 bushings are made of a better material). Takes about 20 mins to do. Also a few had issues where the Steering nut wasn't torqued properly and could cause vibration at speed. I never had the problem on mine.

Top speed was about the same between the two bikes, the 1800 would win off of the line though. My 1300 kept up with every 1500 v-twin on the road with no issues.

The mileage was WAAAY better with the 1300. Once I got used to the bike I got between 42-47mpg. As I recall the 1800 was more comparable to the Valk... 32-36mpg.

The 1300 had a higher rev limit than the 1800 as I recall. I could do between 50-55 in 1st gear on the 1300 before hitting the limiter. That was the key to the 1300. The power band was at higher revs.

IF you want to drag race go with the 1800... if you want to ride go with the 1300.

Both are solid bikes that will run a long ways. I put 28,000 trouble-free miles on my 1300 before I sold it to my buddy.

Doc not to be a smart a$$, but I see you never owned a 1800. As I stated earlier the 1300 will out handle the 1800. Vibration? The 1300 is a single pin crank which gives that paint shaker feel where the 1800 is a dual pin crank - thus very smooth for a twin.

Attached fuel cap? It is a not attached. Top speed the same?? I don't think so. I've had mine at 150 mph and she still was pulling..now the speedos are about 5 off, so just say 140 mph. How can you possibly compare 65 hp to 106 and 125 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm? 
And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!
I average 40 mpg and have got 50 taking it real slow!

Now I own both and can speak with some authority. I love both bikes and they are too complete different animals. But I will say the Valkyrie is the best bike I've ever owned all wrapped in one package!! You have smoothness like I've never experienced. power, handling, ride, looks...what more can I say! 

Now to help answer Rosie, both bikes are very dependable and they are bullet proof. Setting aside all that has been mentioned, the 1800 is fuel injected where the 1300 has carbs, unless it's the new one. The FI is nice especially on cold mornings- just hit the starter and go!

Good luck on your decision, both are fine bikes.

You need to go back and read my post again. I said it was close. Smokin Joe has seen this little 1300 with a 1800 rear end. And I will stick to out running a 1800 in curves. Been there and have wiped the smile off their face. The 1300 will not come close on top end with either the Valkyrie or the 1800. So next time read and understand before saying I could outrun them.
David

AS I said earlier Yes a 1300 WILL take the 1800 in the twisties. "Quarter mile time was real close to the stock Valkyrie and VTX 1800."  Yes I read it. I guess you turn "close" to low-mid 12'S?
So yes I read and understood. 

I guess you didn't read it right .Your quote And for the person that said his 1300 with a 1800 final and pipes could outrun a Valk or a 1800, sorry I'd have to see to believe!!Just to set it straight and no confusion.
David

My bad. You  said "Quarter mile was real close to the (stock) Valkyrie and 1800". 

   

[Kylenav]

Just curious at this point, not looking to bash anyone or start a peeing contest...

What would make a 1300 handle worlds better than the 1800???  I just rode a few thousand miles in the Rocky Mtns and I couldn't get away from my brother on his VTX 1800.  I'm no slouch in the curve department, having plenty of experience with curvy roads on bikes.  I do realize the obvious weight difference, and the top heavy nature of the 1800.  I don't know that is a huge disadvantage in a curve since I've never heard of a bike toppling over while going over 20 in a curve.  His does scrape the floorboards constantly when leaned, which is why he is on his second set now.  It also has 1/3 more brakes to stop the extra weight.


Also regarding the straight line speed.  The VTX my brother had that I'm making the references about is not stock.  It has an intake, power commander with custom mapping, and an exhaust.  Also a 200 rear MC tire which may give it a slight edge over the lesser 180, but not much.  Having said that the Valk and the 1800 are as close to dead even in a straight line as it gets.  The 1800 actually pulls about a 1/2 bike after 90 MPH.

As stated I'm just curious what makes the 1300 a better handling bike in the turns that could wipe a smile off an 1800.  I'd venture to say that if the 1300 is better in the turns then the in-between straight the 1800 would zoom right by?

[Warlock]

Just curious at this point, not looking to bash anyone or start a peeing contest...

What would make a 1300 handle worlds better than the 1800???  I just rode a few thousand miles in the Rocky Mtns and I couldn't get away from my brother on his VTX 1800.  I'm no slouch in the curve department, having plenty of experience with curvy roads on bikes.  I do realize the obvious weight difference, and the top heavy nature of the 1800.  I don't know that is a huge disadvantage in a curve since I've never heard of a bike toppling over while going over 20 in a curve.  His does scrape the floorboards constantly when leaned, which is why he is on his second set now.  It also has 1/3 more brakes to stop the extra weight.


Also regarding the straight line speed.  The VTX my brother had that I'm making the references about is not stock.  It has an intake, power commander with custom mapping, and an exhaust.  Also a 200 rear MC tire which may give it a slight edge over the lesser 180, but not much.  Having said that the Valk and the 1800 are as close to dead even in a straight line as it gets.  The 1800 actually pulls about a 1/2 bike after 90 MPH.

As stated I'm just curious what makes the 1300 a better handling bike in the turns that could wipe a smile off an 1800.  I'd venture to say that if the 1300 is better in the turns then the in-between straight the 1800 would zoom right by?

Most of them was dragging their boards and pegs way before mine would on my 1300. Seems I had a little more ground clearance. Also the 1300 isn't as top heavy. Of course with any bike the driver makes the difference. The 1800 seems to run very well on top end. I had several ones I rode with (me on my 1300)and after 110 mph they would walk away from me. Now when we hit the curves it was my turn. Also I believe the engine braking on the 1300 was better than the 1800 of course with the geared down 1800  rear end I had a advantage.. Neither to me is as good as the Valkyrie engine braking.   
David

[BIG--T]

Just curious at this point, not looking to bash anyone or start a peeing contest...

What would make a 1300 handle worlds better than the 1800???  I just rode a few thousand miles in the Rocky Mtns and I couldn't get away from my brother on his VTX 1800.  I'm no slouch in the curve department, having plenty of experience with curvy roads on bikes.  I do realize the obvious weight difference, and the top heavy nature of the 1800.  I don't know that is a huge disadvantage in a curve since I've never heard of a bike toppling over while going over 20 in a curve.  His does scrape the floorboards constantly when leaned, which is why he is on his second set now.  It also has 1/3 more brakes to stop the extra weight.


Also regarding the straight line speed.  The VTX my brother had that I'm making the references about is not stock.  It has an intake, power commander with custom mapping, and an exhaust.  Also a 200 rear MC tire which may give it a slight edge over the lesser 180, but not much.  Having said that the Valk and the 1800 are as close to dead even in a straight line as it gets.  The 1800 actually pulls about a 1/2 bike after 90 MPH.

As stated I'm just curious what makes the 1300 a better handling bike in the turns that could wipe a smile off an 1800.  I'd venture to say that if the 1300 is better in the turns then the in-between straight the 1800 would zoom right by?

Yep it would blow by it! I have a Retro with floorboards and I look like one big side grinder in the twisties where the boards scrape!

[BIG--T]

Just curious at this point, not looking to bash anyone or start a peeing contest...

What would make a 1300 handle worlds better than the 1800???  I just rode a few thousand miles in the Rocky Mtns and I couldn't get away from my brother on his VTX 1800.  I'm no slouch in the curve department, having plenty of experience with curvy roads on bikes.  I do realize the obvious weight difference, and the top heavy nature of the 1800.  I don't know that is a huge disadvantage in a curve since I've never heard of a bike toppling over while going over 20 in a curve.  His does scrape the floorboards constantly when leaned, which is why he is on his second set now.  It also has 1/3 more brakes to stop the extra weight.


Also regarding the straight line speed.  The VTX my brother had that I'm making the references about is not stock.  It has an intake, power commander with custom mapping, and an exhaust.  Also a 200 rear MC tire which may give it a slight edge over the lesser 180, but not much.  Having said that the Valk and the 1800 are as close to dead even in a straight line as it gets.  The 1800 actually pulls about a 1/2 bike after 90 MPH.

As stated I'm just curious what makes the 1300 a better handling bike in the turns that could wipe a smile off an 1800.  I'd venture to say that if the 1300 is better in the turns then the in-between straight the 1800 would zoom right by?

Most of them was dragging their boards and pegs way before mine would on my 1300. Seems I had a little more ground clearance. Also the 1300 isn't as top heavy. Of course with any bike the driver makes the difference. The 1800 seems to run very well on top end. I had several ones I rode with (me on my 1300)and after 110 mph they would walk away from me. Now when we hit the curves it was my turn. Also I believe the engine braking on the 1300 was better than the 1800 of course with the geared down 1800  rear end I had a advantage.. Neither to me is as good as the Valkyrie engine braking.   
David

I believe the 1300 has more ground clearance and it sure is lighter.

[Warlock]

Just curious at this point, not looking to bash anyone or start a peeing contest...

What would make a 1300 handle worlds better than the 1800???  I just rode a few thousand miles in the Rocky Mtns and I couldn't get away from my brother on his VTX 1800.  I'm no slouch in the curve department, having plenty of experience with curvy roads on bikes.  I do realize the obvious weight difference, and the top heavy nature of the 1800.  I don't know that is a huge disadvantage in a curve since I've never heard of a bike toppling over while going over 20 in a curve.  His does scrape the floorboards constantly when leaned, which is why he is on his second set now.  It also has 1/3 more brakes to stop the extra weight.


Also regarding the straight line speed.  The VTX my brother had that I'm making the references about is not stock.  It has an intake, power commander with custom mapping, and an exhaust.  Also a 200 rear MC tire which may give it a slight edge over the lesser 180, but not much.  Having said that the Valk and the 1800 are as close to dead even in a straight line as it gets.  The 1800 actually pulls about a 1/2 bike after 90 MPH.

As stated I'm just curious what makes the 1300 a better handling bike in the turns that could wipe a smile off an 1800.  I'd venture to say that if the 1300 is better in the turns then the in-between straight the 1800 would zoom right by?

Yep it would blow by it! I have a Retro with floorboards and I look like one big side grinder in the twisties where the boards scrape!

I was looking at the 1800's pretty hard when I bought the 1300. Had a buddy that had a 1300 and liked the way it handled. It's a shame Honda dropped the 1800. Seemed they had a very good engine also. I now own 2 Valkyrie and thinking real hard about selling one. My wife has been eying the Can Am Spyder RT. Got to keep the wife happy.
David

[Doc Rogers]

Anytime anyone starts a sentence with "I don't mean to be a smart-ass" nothing polite will follow.

Thanks for keeping true to the stereotype. I really appreciate how you attempted to invalidate my experience based on a gas cap hinge. Now let me return the favor.

Paint shaker? Seriously? "OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NEVER OWNED A 1800"... blah blah... never said I did, just that I had ridden them and had friends that had them. Show me any stock Honda that rumbles like a paint shaker. Mine was smooth, maybe yours needs a tune-up. That would explain why you can't keep up with the 1800's.

150... off by 5mph... something smells here. Show me a stock 1800 doing 150+ and I'll sell you some ocean front property in Iowa. (Maybe if you only weigh 95lbs ). Also the speedo isn't off by a static 5mph at all speeds.

Sounds like another case of displacement envy to me. Next thing you will tell us that all of the roads on an 1800 are down-hill and fresh paved.