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I'm comfortable with the accuracy of my statements. Of course you are But, every deffinition I read put the term "blood lust" in a less than sane category......this is not a rational feeling nor a normal desire........it is crazed and un-natural The killing of a dangerous terrorist (or the wanting for it) and the applauding of such is not irrational or insane. While some mourn the loss of the rights of a previously constitutionally protected normal citizen, the rest of us are HAPPY and Proud of our government and in this...even our President for a job well done in eliminating a threat to the free world and a couple of self declared terrorists/traitors. In a time of war against such, only somone that doesnt "get it" would dispute the rightousness of such an act. Let me reiterate once more. I do not disagree with the act. I said that several times, but in your intense drive to be obtuse you insist on implying otherwise. Once more, what I object to is the rejoicing over the taking of any life, justified or not. I guess from your words that you believe somehow that I don't "get it", that you have some mystical wisdom hidden from me. Maybe it's a fine line the distinction of which escapes one of us. You think it's me and I definitely think it's you. Let's leave it at that. I guess I missed the last button last night. No mystical wisdom here (I dont know what that is anyway) as far as me thinking something negative about you. I am sorry you feel that way. But I think the only thing going on here that is "mystical" is you claiming to be able to read my thoughts. I rarely agree with everyone on any subject, but disagreement is good, it keeps us all honest....again I am sorry you feel I am against you personally
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I'm comfortable with the accuracy of my statements. Of course you are But, every deffinition I read put the term "blood lust" in a less than sane category......this is not a rational feeling nor a normal desire........it is crazed and un-natural I get what you're saying, but even a righteous kill can be made in the throes of a condition akin to insanity. Were someone to threaten or harm your family you'd be justified in taking measures to stop them up to and including killing them if the threat were that serious. But it doesn't necessarily mean you're in the correct state of mind. In fact, you're probably NOT in the situation with your head screwed on straight. We are humans afterall. I'm not even going to say that this is you Chris or even anyone here. but I do see people bubbling over with hate. There's a lot of it out there right now. Hate towards al Qaeda, between political parties, between races... there's just too much of it in America and sadly, that's exactly what those whop seek to destroy us want. Their feelings are not hurt by it and it ensures that the cycle of violence continues beyond the solution of justice and the elimination of the threat. Hate is the only human emotion that has no positive side effect under any circumstance. Jesus knew this. Love is what love is. Anger can overcome terror and spur righteous action. Fear can save your life. Despair can cleanse and close... ...but hate is a virus that finds a host and spreads, killing as effectively as the most potent of pathogens. fear is the path to the dark side, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering..... Yoda, little green man of wisdom  WAKKA! WAKKA! WAKKA! - Fozzie Bear, furry bear of comedy.
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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2011, 08:42:13 AM » |
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Amazing Grace that saved a wretch like me.
Yes I was and am a sinner saved by grace.
Mistakes I still make them.
God still sends grace my way and for all of mankind for that matter.
The Song applied to the Twin Towers crashing down, shows that God's Grace was there with those victims and the families
that mourn for them, before , during and after that horror that was committed by blood thirsty Muslims.
When a terrorist is killed I do not rejoice for his or her death, I rejoice that not one more
innocent drop of blood will be spilled by the evil that they would perpetrate.
That our leaders get it and take action to do what the constitution says they are supposed to do.
Protect us so we can persue the happiness we seek.
Freedom, is that happiness we enjoy, that statement is good to all until it harms another or another's freedom.
Laws change often to allow this to happen. But when the laws impenge upon that freedom, we stop and adjust that law.
It is a precarious place we live in.
To be free does not give anyone the right to hurt another.
But to worship. pray, or not to, and do it all without interference from the government.
But a criminal or terroist should not be allowed that same freedom.
A criminal is protected by the Constitution.
Whether an lllegal alien or terrorist, they don't get or
or deserve the same protection in any form .
Geneva convention or international law is for them.
We the people in order to form a more perfect union, should get that protection and no other individual for any reason.
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Evil Obama  strikes again: _____ (Hey, VA 02-10-11) In a related development, the Obama administration unleashed a second drone attack in as many weeks, this time targeting Dr. Dreckie Strudlemeyer, a known and self-admitted theorist. His public stance on Global Warming, for example, has been known to the various agencies monitoring theorists and gathering intelligence on their whereabouts. Speaking to DM-News on condition of strictest anonimity, Col. Steve A. Dore (1215 East Dell Av., Hey, VA, 555-355-1812) stated that theorists cannot hide forever. "Our mission" he said "is to hunt down these theorists wherever they are and deal with them decisively." "Europe is a country with many tenorists." commented S. Palin in a counterpoint. "Their irritating music is more suited for elevators and we should just bomb that whole Europe country. But this here is just a ploy to buy votes ahead of that 20-something election."
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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2011, 11:02:05 AM » |
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Evil Obama  strikes again: _____ (Hey, VA 02-10-11) In a related development, the Obama administration unleashed a second drone attack in as many weeks, this time targeting Dr. Dreckie Strudlemeyer, a known and self-admitted theorist. His public stance on Global Warming, for example, has been known to the various agencies monitoring theorists and gathering intelligence on their whereabouts. Speaking to DM-News on condition of strictest anonimity, Col. Steve A. Dore (1215 East Dell Av., Hey, VA, 555-355-1812) stated that theorists cannot hide forever. "Our mission" he said "is to hunt down these theorists wherever they are and deal with them decisively." "Europe is a country with many tenorists." commented S. Palin in a counterpoint. "Their irritating music is more suited for elevators and we should just bomb that whole Europe country. But this here is just a ploy to buy votes ahead of that 20-something election." I assume that you were making an attempt at some sort of humor. To equate the killing of a known terrorist with the killing of a global warming theorist suggests to me that you SUPPORT the terrorists right to plan the killing of Americans.  Just remember one thing, So far No global warming theorists as misguided as they may be have done this:  America has a RIGHT to protect its citizens from the enemies who wish to do them harm. If that translates into the indescriminate killing of those who follow the misguided ideals of terrorism then so be it.
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« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2011, 02:14:01 PM » |
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Actually, a play on words. Seen so many - terroist, theorist, torrorest, etc. Always wondered where they came from - now I know! Thanks!  BTW, global warming is not a theory. YMMV. I got a pic too: 
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« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2011, 03:18:37 PM » |
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Globe is warming maybe according to who you talk too.
It has been doing that for about 100,000 years so far on this cycle.
Who is to blame is the thing to ask.
And is there something we can do or stop doing to affect the change.
My guess is no what ever has happened , it is too late to reverse in any meaningful way.
Anything else is a pipe dream.
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« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2011, 03:51:03 PM » |
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Watching the news this afternoon reminded me of the 'bring out your dead' scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail when the old man say's 'I'm not dead yet...". There are reports al-Awlaki wasn't among the dead after all. Maybe he was blown up and vaporized? If he turns up alive the US will look pretty silly after claiming we killed him on Friday.
There is a time for christians to go to war though.
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« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2011, 04:40:30 PM » |
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al-Awlaki got what he deserved. I would no longer want to refer to a traitor as a Civilian of my country. Can you imagine trying to get this guy to court to sentence him. Congrats to the US Administration for their successful disposal of a terrorist
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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2011, 06:49:01 PM » |
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Actually, a play on words. Seen so many - terroist, theorist, torrorest, etc. Always wondered where they came from - now I know! Thanks!  BTW, global warming is not a theory. YMMV. I got a pic too:  the science is NOT set, there is no consnesus. Al Gore is just trying to make a bunch of dinero off the ignorace of many. information is freedom, learn, read, learn some more make up your own dang mind
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« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2011, 07:16:59 PM » |
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I agree with Willow but I dont agree that the people are lusting for blood, I think its more one thing got done quickly without the usual bleeding hearts turning it into a circus and tying it up in our courts for years with the associated cost and waste in man hours. Not to mention with the government not performing like it should, and all the other issues plaguing the US I think most if all are fed up and jump at the littlest chance to say things went the way they should for once. All are on edge and need some slack . As for 9/11 things could have been far worse 3000 died it could have easily been 50000.On a typical weekday 50,000 people worked in the towers with another 200,000 passing through as visitors. Ultimately, 2,753 death certificates (excluding those for hijackers) were filed relating to the 9/11 attacks It was a miracle that more were not killed. There were allot of factors that went into this low a number dying but I do believe it was Gods grace.
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« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2011, 08:12:29 PM » |
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I got a pic too:  Are YOU making a joke about the events of 9-11-2001 ? Because if you are you have a very SICK sense of humor.
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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2011, 05:26:50 AM » |
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Ease up guys. The war is not with each other the war is with those like Osama and this AL Wa....(sp) dude. Our war with them started heavy with 9/11 but their war on us has been going on for years and years. Im not that old and I remember loading live rounds in our miniguns on the choppers in Okinawa in '79, I deployed the first time we tried to take out Kadafi. I remember embasy bombings seems like every other week there was another one there for awhile and where I saw real UGLY the first time close up personally was when Osamas guys took out the Khobar Towers in Saudi. I led many many stress debriefings for coworkers, commanders and wives of the guys that were killed from our area.
Why did I say all that. Because (my point is) these people want you dead (and me) and they practice killing and they enjoy killing westerners but seems Americans the most. Yes, they enjoy it. They have no heart, no mercy and would do it again anytime they get the chance.
Therefore, at least while we are smart enough to be at war with them FINALLY after all these years....THEY DONT DESERVE TO BE TREATED AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. the battle field is Planet Earth and make no mistke you are walking on the battlefield every day. If an enemy combatant shows himself immediate destruction should not be questioned, it is what we do in war.
Im done defending my views and anyone elses views that it is somehow sick, twisted or immoral to want every last one of these dudes dead, or at least the active ones and most certainely the ones we know about and know where they are. War is Hell, but I say take it to them before they bring it here again!
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Would any of us NOT take action if a loved one was in danger.
Well your loved ones are in danger, everyday by these terrorists.
Obama and his lackies are finally calling them terrorists and killing them.
Yes they sit there and say push that button, blow that son-of a B to Allah.
They don't seem to have a problem with killing them, just with pouring water on them, baptism is under review as we speak.
Killing them is what we do before they kill us.
It's a new kind of war and I am sure it will take a while
for some of us to get on board, but I am pulling for those that are behind the curve right now.
You will get it someday, I hope soon.
Remember they are protecting those that you love and maybe even you.
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« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2011, 07:44:28 AM » |
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Obama and his lackies are finally calling them terrorists and killing them. You might recall very early in the Obama administration's existence there was a crisis with some Somali pirates holding a ship captain hostage. Once any other options were exhausted Obama wasted no time in ordering them shot dead. I know some people despise Obama and and won't give him credit for anything and I'm not the guy's biggest supporter by a long shot. But since day one he's been carrying a metaphorical big-iron on his hip and has not shied from using it.
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« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2011, 08:09:40 AM » |
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But homeland security chief Napolitano would not and still does not call them terroists, just man made disasters. Is the rub.
Failure is an option for this prez, he even admits that, if you don't like me in 4 years fire me he says. OK  Failure is not an optin in my life and not in my work either. Is it in our interest to have a man in charge that thinks an option is to fail. and that means we all fail.
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Man that brought back memories and made my hair stand up! Makes me want to kill all of them!!  Kill all of whom?
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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2011, 08:37:54 AM » |
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Failure is an option for this prez, he even admits that, if you don't like me in 4 years fire me he says.
Well, that's the way it works in America.
Is it in our interest to have a man in charge that thinks an option is to fail. and that means we all fail.
I never once heard the man say that failure is an "option". Could you provide some proof of this? Admitting that failures happen and that it's an inevitability in life is not the same thing as calling in an option (aka: a "choice").
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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2011, 09:21:13 AM » |
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Man that brought back memories and made my hair stand up! Makes me want to kill all of them!!  Kill all of whom? all terrorists!
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« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2011, 10:48:49 AM » |
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And thar's the crunch. All terrorists. I know it rankles some of you to admit that, in fact, Mr. Obama has been doing a bang-up job (no pun) in taking firm action where required.  But the "all terrorists" comment sums up how strange and difficult the war on terror is. Nothing would be better than to have them all meet us in a field of battle. Wearing "T" patches on their shoulders....their arty behind them...their air force having a go. Then we could duke it out. That's fantasy. Reality is, if it has to be one at a time, so be it; the Prez is doing it. Devastating a country, at a cost of trillion$, that harbors the T's (or worse - one that had nothing to do with terrorists) is useless. They don't give a crap about the host country and just move on, usually deeper into obscurity and even more dangerous. It's a tough task. So far Mr. Obama is up to it. In my humble opinion.
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true the prez has had no (or few ) compunctions about killing terrorists. We'd be better off if we could have gathered a few more off the streets of the world and interrogated them to find usable Intel to stop further attacks and getting more operatives under lock and key. repeat as needed .....
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« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2011, 02:55:20 PM » |
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We'd be better off if we could have gathered a few more off the streets of the world and interrogated them to find usable Intel to stop further attacks and getting more operatives under lock and key. repeat as needed .....
How do you know that that's not what's happening?
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