Rear tire changeout, going Darkside, and need some advise...

[Jabba]

I asked on the tech board and only got 1 reply.

I am going Darkside.  Falken, V-Rated, 205/60R/16. 

I have my Dyna beads. 

My O-Rings are in at the dealer.

My question is...

How long is it gonna take me to get the rear end apart, switch the tires, do the cage nut mod, change the o-rings, lube the splines and get it back together?

I know... it all depends... but I am basically asking how long it too YOU your first time...  I'll toss out the high and low answers... and average the rest of them to get a reasonable goal for myself.

Thanks in advance!

Jabba

[Ghost]

My guess would be less than two hours, It's not real hard after the first time. I changed mine over a couple of years ago. Good luck.

[Windjammer]

  I think it took two of us about 4 hrs. +/-  Remember to just remove the top shock bolt from both sides while on the jack and lift up till you get enough clearance to remove the bolt. If you don't have a Interstate than it might be a little easier to remove the back half of the fender and remove the cage for the nut. If not just take a 4" grinder with a cutoff wheel for cutting metal, and slice one side and you should be able to take a screw driver and slip it under the cutoff side and swing it towards the other and it will snap off at the weld. Then change the cutoff wheel to the grinding wheel and remove the burrs left .MAY be Sharp so be careful. Get new valves put in when you change out the tire as well. When you go to put the wheel back in Sometimes it is a little tight with air in it. I deflate mine and seems to work better for me to install. If your rear brakes are iffy You might just as well change those out to. 4 hands for this job is a good thing to.

[BOOMR]

You should also change out / replace the rear wheel TRUST WASHER if you haven't done so for a while. When I put on my YOKO AS430 last summer (while at WARLOCK'S), my thrust washer was only about 1/3 its normal thickness after just over a year. It is a rigid flat washer...Part # 42616-MAJ-G20 $4.00. I also check my rear bearings and dust seal (replace as required) every time my wheel comes off.

...BOOMR

[Sharkey]

I just did my first one. I also pulled the driveshaft and lubed that also. I would guess 5 hours and that included the trip to the tire shop to have it mounted, and a few trips to the computer to read and double check. It took about 50 psi to get the bead to seat on the rim. make sure they lube up the bead very well.

[DFragn]

Is this your first dismount/remount?

If so I would imagine [depending on your type of tire irons, bead breaker and such] 4-5 hours for everything. If I hurry I can now do all that in 2 hours, including balancing - which I take my time with. I prefer to static balance.

This does not include reinstalling my bags & such.

[Big IV]

Once the tire/wheel is out the nut cage mod doesn't take much time at all. Like all things, take your time and don't rush. Enjoy the rare wrench job on the Valk.

[vanagon40]

Is this your first dismount/remount?

If so I would imagine [depending on your type of tire irons, bead breaker and such] 4-5 hours for everything. If I hurry I can now do all that in 2 hours, including balancing - which I take my time with. I prefer to static balance.

This does not include reinstalling my bags & such.

Wow Dfragn,

I'll bet I spent at least 8 to 12 on my first (and only).  I agree that the time will decrease exponentially, but I think 4-5 hours is fast, and 2 hours is unrealistic.  Hell, I spent 2 hours on the static balance.  I guess I just don't get in a hurry.  I never work so fast that there is not time for a "HIGH LIFE" intermission.

So I guess to answer your question Jabba, you can get it done in less than 24 hours, and miss only one day riding (and none if you keep it parked during the rain we are having).

Jim

[Steven W.]

I use a Sears jack, with the adapter.  The first time I changed mine (01 I/S), with the nut mod, took me 4-5 hours, at least one hour of which was spent cleaning and polishing rims, etc before reassembly.  Next 2 car tire changes, with O-rings, spline lube, etc took about 2-3 hours using a Harbor Freight machine and bubble balancer.

[Jabba]

Well, my 2 year old son will probably be helping me in the garage... so my time will be slower yet. I have the valk... hung by it's handlebars from the ceiling already... and I took the fender off and did the nut cage mod last night.  NONE of them broke off at the weld by the way.  My welder must have been the best ever.  I had to grind every one of them off, being careful not to get them too hot.

After breakfast, and some daddy/little buddy time this AM, we're gonna go get at it.  Hopefully, I'll be able to make a test ride this afternoon.

Jabba

[alph]

It took me about 5 hours to remove my rear wheel, lube my spline, change my brake pads, remount, reinstall the exhaust and bags.  Not really a hard job at all really made me kinda mad that the shops want sooo much money for a new rear tire when it really isn’t that hard of work!  If you feel like you might screw something up, use a digital camera and take pictures of things before you tear it apart so that you’ve got some type of reference on putting it back together.

Al.

[Jabba]

All in all it took me about 5 hours including a lunch break, and looking out for Mini-Me the whole time.  He only fell off the bike once, and the crying only lasted about 15 seconds.

Thanks ALL!!!

Jabba

[Jess from VA]

Jabba, did you end up using dyna beads? 

I ask because I just put my first car tire on, a Goodyear Assurance TripleTred, and it balanced on the electronic tire machine with a single 1-ounce weight (so no beads went in). 

[R J]

It took me about 5 hours to remove my rear wheel, lube my spline, change my brake pads, remount, reinstall the exhaust and bags.  
Al.

Why did you have the exhaust off?

Old farts need to know, cause I ain't never took the exhaust off to change out a rear tire.........

I take the rear shocks loose from either the top or the bottom, prefer the top.

Let the rear wheel down until the axle bolt will come out from under the exhaust, raise the bike back up and take the wheel off.

Repeat above procedure to put it back together.

[DeathWishBikerDude]

Probably due to the fact that the service manual reccommends it.
I've done the rear install both ways and removing the exhaust is easier.
I get a chance to clean and inspect the exhaust,plus the threads and nuts for the exhaust get cleaned and lubed.

I would like a short cut for getting the shocks back on while the bike is on the lift?
Not a very nice task.
 

[Steven W.]

All in all it took me about 5 hours including a lunch break, and looking out for Mini-Me the whole time.  He only fell off the bike once, and the crying only lasted about 15 seconds.

Thanks ALL!!!

Jabba

Congrats......shouldn't need to change it for a long time now!

[fudgie]

Probably due to the fact that the service manual reccommends it.
I've done the rear install both ways and removing the exhaust is easier.
I get a chance to clean and inspect the exhaust,plus the threads and nuts for the exhaust get cleaned and lubed.

I would like a short cut for getting the shocks back on while the bike is on the lift?
Not a very nice task.
 

I just lower the bike till the holes line up. Only takes a few min.

[HotRod]

Good luck Jabba, I thing im going dark side the next tire change as well. I'm kinda looking forward to it and im going to supper valk her as well.

[R J]

Good luck Jabba, I thing im going dark side the next tire change as well. I'm kinda looking forward to it and im going to supper valk her as well.

Super Valk it, does your wife agree with ya on that?  AW, new job, $$$$ in pocket, wife getting her own ride.   Yeah.

I soloed MGM out this past winter, wife said, good, I don't have to go riding anymore.  She never did really enjoy riding the bike......

[HotRod]

Good luck Jabba, I thing im going dark side the next tire change as well. I'm kinda looking forward to it and im going to supper valk her as well.

Super Valk it, does your wife agree with ya on that?  AW, new job, $$$$ in pocket, wife getting her own ride.   Yeah.

I soloed MGM out this past winter, wife said, good, I don't have to go riding anymore.  She never did really enjoy riding the bike......

I'll just do the quick change and have her back in 5 mins they say.

[Jabba]

Jabba, did you end up using dyna beads? 

I ask because I just put my first car tire on, a Goodyear Assurance TripleTred, and it balanced on the electronic tire machine with a single 1-ounce weight (so no beads went in). 

Yeah I did.  I didn't even try to balance it.  I just went right to the Dyna-Beads.

Seems to work great.

Jabba