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« on: October 11, 2011, 12:05:50 PM »

 Anybody know of any good tire deals right now? I have a Bridgestone on the back,it's good but I need a front and would to get the same brand.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 12:07:08 PM »

Same thing here.  I need a front pretty soon, I don't like riding in winter weather when I am down to the wear bars.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 12:13:10 PM »

Same thing here.  I need a front pretty soon, I don't like riding in winter weather when I am down to the wear bars.
Boy I tell ya when they get down there they go fast too!
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 01:17:44 PM »

Anybody know of any good tire deals right now? I have a Bridgestone on the back,it's good but I need a front and would to get the same brand.


Exedra 710F for $136.70 ??

http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33_82_94&products_id=748

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 01:42:46 PM »

I think I saw a Metzler on ebay for $189 with free shipping.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 01:43:27 PM »

Dennis Kirk has Bridgestone fronts at a similar price.  $129.99 + $5 to ship

https://www.denniskirk.com/bridgestone/front-g701f-exedra-cruiser-150-80hr-17-blackwall-tire.p652044.prd/652044.sku

I looked at all the brands, and most went up in price this Summer.  Bridgestone didn't.  After all of 100 miles, I'm satisfied.  I bought the back tire, too but haven't put it on yet.  I have always used Dunlop on every bike, but the price is now $82 more per pair, and after a nice response from the Bridgestone rep, I decided to try these.


Dang, cheaper by $1.71  Cool

Seriously though, have now been riding on 701 & 702 for about 900 miles front and 1500 miles rear. Still happy with them. Not the quietest tires around ( I think there might be some cupping developing already ) but so far good grip and response, even on wet.

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 02:02:09 PM »

Just bought my 2nd Kenda rear for the front. Jake wilson $78.99 total price to door step in 3 days
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 04:16:12 PM »

Mildew--What size/series Kendra?  What sort of mileage di you get out of the first one?  Stan
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 10:20:17 AM »

Thanks you all, anybody ever run a Perelli ? friend of mine just told the Harley dealer here has some for $85
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 10:57:41 AM »

My tire search found no Pirelli in Valkyrie sizes.  Maybe you will find something.
Nope,I just called them and they dont have the right size.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 10:58:49 AM »

Well,I got 17,300 on my front metzler and still riding on it tell I get a replacement,not bad.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 11:00:04 AM »

Just bought my 2nd Kenda rear for the front. Jake wilson $78.99 total price to door step in 3 days
What is a Kenda?
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 02:10:43 PM »




The tread noise we hear is not cupping.  The front tire has an agressive tread with large channels to flow out water.  When you lean the bike, the tire rolls over about 60 little empty spots.  The tire "sings" like an old snow tire.  It's not particularly loud.


Happy riding

Thanks for that Pluggy

I was thinking it could be the treading since it is  a bit agricultural. I just thought I was hearing it a bit more now than immediately after I put them on, but that of course could be that I am cornering a bit more aggressively now that both tires have been ran in.

If it displaces the water from underneath my tires, I think I can live with it  Cool
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 04:09:19 PM »

Have you check www.jakewilson.com/home.do?  If you check the internet you can find their coupons.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2011, 06:33:28 PM »

I like my avons!  Nice and sticky, quiet,  and really good in the rain!   and they seem to last for me ... try dennis kirk.... I run a 200/60HR-16 avon cobra in the rear  $185. at dennis kirk on sale a short while back
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2011, 06:57:38 PM »

I like my avons!  Nice and sticky, quiet,  and really good in the rain!   and they seem to last for me ... try dennis kirk.... I run a 200/60HR-16 avon cobra in the rear  $185. at dennis kirk on sale a short while back

Another vote for Avons. They stick to the road like glue and I got 22k out of my last set.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2011, 07:04:21 AM »

I think I saw a Metzler on ebay for $189 with free shipping.

Just got a whopping 5k out of a metz front  Angry  Going back to Avon where I get twice that. I know the NC back roads are rough but WOW 5k out of a front tire????
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 10:34:10 AM »

Just got a whopping 5k out of a metz front  Angry  Going back to Avon where I get twice that. I know the NC back roads are rough but WOW 5k out of a front tire????
Well,I got 17,300 on my front metzler and still riding on it tell I get a replacement,not bad.

Seems to me this is a difference that an explanation (personal riding characteristics) doesn't answer.

I had one (Metzler) on the front a few years back that disappointed me. Out of round and poor mileage also, although not as bad as dipstick.

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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 03:17:04 PM »

Well, I got nearly 20k miles from a Metzler ME880 with my GYTT on the back and it wasn't new when I went darkside. A month before our trip to Maggie Valley I put on another Metzler just like the other one. After 5 days in N.C. and on the way back home, in Rome GA, I had a hologram of tread left in the middle of the front tire and cord every two inches or so on both sides showing on the front tire. It could have been a bad tire. It could have been low air pressure. Or maybe I was just a little too aggressive on the Tail of the Dragon and the Snake. Wow! Imagine my suprise after a spirited 115 mph Show Off, my brother in-law said, "Boy your tire is gone". My knees literally buckled and I couldn't stand up straight. I have never had a front tire blow out and I don't want one. My brother in-law thinks that coming off of the flat of the car tire in the switch backs made me push the front tire real hard. Or more hard than a round tire in the back. Hmmmm.... Undecided
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 04:17:37 PM »

Same thing here.  I need a front pretty soon, I don't like riding in winter weather when I am down to the wear bars.
Boy I tell ya when they get down there they go fast too!

Reminds me of a saying "Life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer it gets to the end the faster it goes"  I guess motorcycle tires are the same way.  Wink

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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2011, 08:05:27 AM »

Got one of these for my next front change.
http://www.motosport.com/cruiser/product/CONTINENTAL-CONTI-GO-REAR-TIRE-13090VB17/?id=126118

(Darkside front)
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2011, 08:36:07 AM »

Put Avon Cobra's on mine and they seem very good Smiley, but have not tried in the wet yet.

Expensive at £300 ($450) a pair though.. Sad
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2011, 10:49:47 AM »

I think I saw a Metzler on ebay for $189 with free shipping.

Just got a whopping 5k out of a metz front  Angry  Going back to Avon where I get twice that. I know the NC back roads are rough but WOW 5k out of a front tire????
Wow,I got almost 13k out of this metzler i got on the front right now.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 10:54:33 AM »

Anybody see a problem running a 140/80 R17 on the front? I'm not able to find a 150 locally right now and he said the 140 is just a little narrower.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2011, 11:44:37 AM »

It will be considerably shorter than the stock tire.

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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2011, 01:13:23 PM »

There are many factors that work together to determine the miles your tires will do.  One of the biggest is the tires themselves, but for the sake of this I will assume were talking all the same tire.  Other factors:

Maintenance of air pressure
road surface
gross vehicle weight
riding style
ambient temperatures
servicability of the motorcycle
types of roads (super slab vs country roads)
age of the tire

Its almost impossble to compare the mileage one person gets on a tire to what another may get on the same tire without knowing all the above

In Northwest Fl its not uncommon to get between 20-30K on a front tire...Im usually near 20 because I stop when it gets close to the wear bar.  If you drive till you see air like Ive seen some do you can get a good tire way high in the 20'sK range.  In the mountains where the roads are twisty, rough, where the temps are harsher and riding is more intense I hear the average is way less.

If you have poor suspension, dont monitor your air pressure, take LONG breaks between riding so the tire is old, maybe dry rotted........your miles will be reduced.

Or if you pull a trailer, sidecar....etc

Its a complicated equation
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2011, 04:41:19 PM »

I think I saw a Metzler on ebay for $189 with free shipping.

Just got a whopping 5k out of a metz front  Angry  Going back to Avon where I get twice that. I know the NC back roads are rough but WOW 5k out of a front tire????

Wow really?  Shocked  Shocked My last one got a little over 21k and I put this one on in 09 prior to Sturgis. Its got 15k or more on it now. May last next summer yet. I'm a highway rider and it only gets round out in the Hills.
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2011, 09:36:02 PM »

Just got a whopping 5k out of a metz front  Angry  Going back to Avon where I get twice that. I know the NC back roads are rough but WOW 5k out of a front tire????
Well,I got 17,300 on my front metzler and still riding on it tell I get a replacement,not bad.

Seems to me this is a difference that an explanation (personal riding characteristics) doesn't answer.

I had one (Metzler) on the front a few years back that disappointed me. Out of round and poor mileage also, although not as bad as dipstick.

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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2011, 05:04:15 AM »

A dunlop d404f front in the proper size lasts me 20k, and only cost 100 bux.  Hoser  cooldude
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2011, 05:29:07 PM »

I guess riding VERY aggressive in the NC foothills and mountains just eats em up fast. I can see how a guy in IN could get 20k out of a front but I have never got more than 12k out of a front tire. But like I said I ride 90% back raods and ride the twisties pretty hard and often.
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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2011, 06:47:52 PM »

Call J&P Cycles. They usually have some good deals.  Thay update their prices quite a bit, but not the print prices in the catalogs. My rear E3 was printed at $209 last spring, and I got it for $170 shipped.
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« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2011, 10:40:05 AM »

I want a rear tire that last.  I pull a trailer and do a lot of 2 up riding on the twisties.  Can't get more than 6 or 7 k metztler first time and bridgestone g850 that will be gone at 7 k. 
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« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2011, 01:23:00 PM »

There are many factors that work together to determine the miles your tires will do.  One of the biggest is the tires themselves, but for the sake of this I will assume were talking all the same tire.  Other factors:

Maintenance of air pressure
road surface
gross vehicle weight
riding style
ambient temperatures
servicability of the motorcycle
types of roads (super slab vs country roads)
age of the tire

Its almost impossble to compare the mileage one person gets on a tire to what another may get on the same tire without knowing all the above

In Northwest Fl its not uncommon to get between 20-30K on a front tire...Im usually near 20 because I stop when it gets close to the wear bar.  If you drive till you see air like Ive seen some do you can get a good tire way high in the 20'sK range.  In the mountains where the roads are twisty, rough, where the temps are harsher and riding is more intense I hear the average is way less.

If you have poor suspension, dont monitor your air pressure, take LONG breaks between riding so the tire is old, maybe dry rotted........your miles will be reduced.

You didn't list this factor, but you hinted at it.  Different people consider a tire "shot" at differing levels of wear.  I've seen people talk about how shot their tire is when they haven't come anywhere near the wear bar.  On the other hand, I've seen people riding showing white flashes (cords)  as their tire spins.  That could be significant if you get two people on opposite sides of that spectrum.

(side note:  I've found this feeds into the fuel mileage equation, as well.  If someone does it right, calculating miles per gallon over a long time, they're good, but if they're talking miles per tank, all bets are off.  Some folks will say they're empty if they're on reserve, but some folks will say they're empty if they're pushing.  Some folks fill it up higher, etc.)
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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2011, 02:52:47 PM »

No, I'm Talking to the wear bar, even past it.
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2011, 03:24:47 PM »

Call J&P Cycles. They usually have some good deals.  Thay update their prices quite a bit, but not the print prices in the catalogs. My rear E3 was printed at $209 last spring, and I got it for $170 shipped.

That was a good catch, thanks for the info.... cooldude
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« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2011, 02:41:23 AM »

Mildew--What size/series Kendra?  What sort of mileage di you get out of the first one?  Stan

Haven't logged on in a while, sorry. 150/70/17. about 25k
Does good. I plan to get a little more on this one. (paying closer attn to the pressre)
Rides good in the rain and the twisties. I was scraping so hard at deals gap last weekend, I was checking for oil leaks
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« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2011, 09:00:58 AM »

I want a rear tire that last.  I pull a trailer and do a lot of 2 up riding on the twisties.  Can't get more than 6 or 7 k metztler first time and bridgestone g850 that will be gone at 7 k. 

You could consider installing a car tire on the rear of you Valkyrie.

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« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2011, 03:50:10 PM »

The bias ply rear front and car tire rear is a good choice for those who like to get great milage and performance.  angel
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2011, 04:21:14 PM »

And (I have to say it) size matters. A 150/80-17 will show less odometer miles than a 130/90-17 at the same actual distance, because with a smaller diameter it turns more often over say, 100 miles.
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