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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« on: October 20, 2011, 11:21:14 AM »

If I leave here tomorrow would you still remember me.....Oct. 20 , 1977

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Gillsburg Plane Crash Kills Six,
Hurts 20 Including Rock Singers
A twin-engine airplane, apparently out of fuel, crashed before 7p.m. Thursday in a wooded area of Amite
County near Gillsburg. Six persons including the lead singer of the rock group Lynyrd Skynyrd were killed
and 20 were injured. The propeller-driven Convair 240 skidded across tree tops for about 100 yards, then
slammed into a swampy area and split open about eight miles short of McComb Airport after reporting it was
having fuel trouble or was running low on fuel", an Air Traffic Controller reported. The dead included lead
singer Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines and vocalist Cassie Gaines, Gaines sister, medical authorities
said. Pilot Walter Wiley McCreary and co-pilot William John Gray, both of Dallas Texas, and Dean Kilpatrick,
assistant road manager for the group, also died officials said. Six other members of the hard rock band were
injured, two hurt critically and four hospitalized in stable condition. The injured, some of them also in critical
condition, included members of the group's road crew and a cameraman, said officials of Southwest Mississippi
Medical Center. The chartered plane owned by L&J Co. of Addison Texas, came down on its nose southwest of
McComb, twisting the cockpit to the left, and threw seven or eight persons to the ground when it split open at
about the middle of the fuselage, it was believed. The impact, which triggered no fire, tossed other passengers
toward the front of the aircraft. "They were all in front of the plane and they were all shouting, get me out, get
me, get me." said Constable Gerrald Wall. "We were actually standing on people to get others out". Johnny
Mote, who lives near the crash site close to the Mississippi-Louisiana border, said the plane "sounded like a
car skidding in gravel" as it clipped the trees. "When it hit the ground it was a deep rumble, like it was
underground. It sounded like wrinkling metal" he said. The group was en route from a Wednesday night
performance in Greenville South Carolina to a Friday night concert before an expected crowd of 10,000
persons at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge. The plane had passed McComb when it reported that it
was having fuel trouble, and was told by the Houston Texas flight center to turn around and land at McComb,
said Everett Fairly, an air traffic controller at McComb. "I tried to call them, but we couldn't raise them, and
Houston reported it had lost radar and radio contact", Fairly said. A spokesman for the Federal Administration
in Atlanta GA said the pilot had reported being low on fuel. Thick undergrowth hampered rescue operations
and some emergency vehicles became stuck in the mud when they tried to drive through the woods to get
close to the aircraft. Rescue crews were also hindered by a 20-foot wide, waist deep creek they had to cross to
reach the plane. Pickup trucks and vans were used along with ambulances to carry the dead and injured to
hospitals. A Southwest Medical Center spokesman said identification of the victims were complicated because
passengers were apparently playing poker before the plane went down and had there wallets and identification
papers out.  Fairly said a small jet was landing at McComb at the time the plane was reported in difficulty and
ask the jet pilot to fly over the area. "But it was very dark and the pilot said he could see nothing from the air,"
Fairly said. The plane came down near open pasture land, tearing off one of the wings and twisting the other.
Recuers had to rip open the nose to get to victims. Two bulldozers were used to cut a path through the woods
and brush from nearby Mississippi 568. Donald Chase who lives about five miles from the area, said he heard
"that the plane was having engine trouble because it was sputtering." Mote said he was putting some hay out
when three bloody survivors who had made their way through the woods called him for help. "One of them was
hugging me around the neck and telling me, "We got to get them out." Mote estimated it took up to 3 1/2 hours
to remove all the bodies from the plane. Michael White who lives in Gillsburg, said he and his family heard the
engines of the airplane sputtering about 6:45pm. "I guess it crashed about 6:47pm" he said, but were unable
to find the plane."I called the airport about 7:00pm," he said, but was told there was no plane in the area.
The Pike County Civil Defense said the crash was reported to its office shortly before 7pm.
Busy Night at Hospital
"We practice disaster drills so many times during the year that when this one came up I wondered if people
would think it was practice too," said Southwest Mississippi Regional Administrator Tom Logue this morning.
"But when the first patient arrived, we went to work. They knew this wasn't a drill. I was real proud of everyone
at the hospital," he said. Logue and most hospital employees, as well as Civil Defense personnel and others
who took part in the rescue operations following Thursday night's plane crash near Gillsburg, had gone
through an almost sleepless night. Six persons died in the crash and of the 20 survivors, four were listed in
critical condition at SMRMC today. Eight others were transferred during the night to Jackson hospitals, seven
were listed in stable condition at SMRMC, and one was not hospitalized. Among the injured were members of
the musical rock group Lynyrd Skynyrd. Three members were killed (see related stories). In critical condition in
the intensive care unit at the McComb hospital were Leon Wilkeson, bass guitarist, with chest injuries, multiple
abrasions and fractured left arm and left leg; Craig Reed, a member of the road crew, chest injury , lacerations
and abrasions, fractured left arm; James Bracy, road crew, chest wound, abrasion, fractured left arm. Listed in
critical condition, but not the intensive care unit, was Kevin Elson, the groups sound engineer, with a fractured
right leg and ankle, fractured pelvis and left leg. Others, still being treated at SMRMC, all in stable condition
this morning. were Ron Eckerman, road manager, chest contusion and rib fractures, and road crew members
Kenneth Peden, multiple contusions, Steve Lawler, chest contusions, facial lacerations; Clayton Johnson,
fractured right clavicle and left elbow; Don Kretzechman, chest injury, abrasions; Joe Osborn, multiple
lacerations of the face, fractured ribs, and right clavicle; and Mark Frank, multiple abrasions, probably cerebral
contusion. Transferred to University Hospital and listed in stable condition were vocalist Leslie Hawkins, facial
lacerations and neck problems; Larken Allen Collins, guitarist, spine injuries; and road crewman Gene Odom,
eye injuries and a deep scalp wound, and Paul Welch, injuries not known. At Baptist Hospital, also listed as
stable, were Gary Rossington, guitarist, multiple fractures; Bill Powell, pianist, lacerations; Bill Sykes, a
television film crewman, multiple fractures; and Mark Howard, road crew, head and back injuries. Another
member of the group, drummer Artimus Pyle, was treated at Beacham Memorial Hospital in Magnolia. He
reportedly walked away from the crash site and notified a nearby resident of the crash. Addresses of the
victims have not been released to authorities. Logue said emergency treatment facilities were set up in the
front lobby of the hospital before the first patients arrived from the crash scene. "The emergency room would
have been bottlenecked with that many people, so we set up a treatment center in the lobby," he said. "The
most critically injured were sent directly to surgery, the critical ones were taken care of in the lobby. We had IV
bottles and all the necessary equipment to take care of them right there. Those less seriously injured were put
in rooms upstairs, including the obstetrics ward, and in the emergency room." Logue said several persons
were discharged from the hospital during the night to make room for the accident victims, but that some of
those discharged later were readmitted. "It was a problem for a while, finding enough beds," he said. Three
helicopters from the Coast Guard, National Guard and Forrest County General Hospital assisted in the rescue
operation, Logue said, transporting at least two doctors to the scene and lighting the area with floodlights.
Logue noted two problems hampered operations at the hospital during the night. "The telephone was busy all
night long" he said. "I talked with people from Sydney, Australia and London, as well as from all over the
country." The other problem, he continued, was keeping up with the identities of the victims. "We had a hard
time keeping names straight, and of course everyone wanted a list of the victims and how badly they were hurt".
"They did a tremendous job in organizing the operation and handling events as they came up,"
said Mrs Willy Mae Lund, one of the hospital trustees who assisted during the night.
Bad Place to Bring Plane Down
Southwest Mississippi Regional Medical Center and other area emergency personnel practice periodically
handling mock disasters. Last night, it was the real thing, and from the looks of the activity at the hospital the
practice has paid off. Only thing, though, nobody had practiced removing 26 plane crash victims from a
swampy patch of woods out from Gillsburg, across a creek to waiting ambulances. It took some three hours or
more from the time the plane crashed to get the job done, but again, those whose jobs it is to do such things,
carried out their duties with precision and skill and as much speed as possible under difficult situations. Bob
Kirkfield, Enterprise-Journal advertising manager, and I arrived on the scene amid the rescue efforts. It was
hard enough getting across the 20-foot wide creek carrying a camera. It obviously would have been harder
carrying an injured person. We walked across a fallen tree. Some were fording the creek, a tributary of the
Amite River. Persons going to the plane had to be careful not to step on the injured and dead who had been
thrown or removed from the aircraft. At first it was thought the ambulances could go around another direction
to get closer to the plane and avoid having to carry the victims across the creek. Later the decision was made
to carry them across the stream. Two Civil Defense workers at the scene said , a sandbar was found
crossing the stream and rescuers were able to carry stretchers across it without wading the water,
however, they had to walk for more than a mile to get to the ambulances.
Who's Lynyrd Skynyrd?
Associated Press article & picture, just after plane crash in October 1977
"We like to call ours "Southern Raunchy Roll" Ronnie Van Zant once said of his musical group Lynyrd Skynyrd.
"The other bands are just as bad, but we go to jail more". Van Zant and his fightin' Southern band prided
themselves on that battling image and a hard driving blaring sound which they rode to sold out concert tours
and million selling albums. They had just begun a tour on the heels of a new album when a charted plane they
were on went down near McComb Mississippi, thursday night en route to Baton Rouge, Louisiana from
Greenville South Carolina.Van Zant, the groups lead vocalist and one of its founders, died along with guitarist
Steve Gaines and his sister Cassie in the crash. All three were 28. Two other members, Gary Rossington
another who helped form the group, and Leon Wilkeson were reported in critical condition after the crash. The
other four members of the group were in stable condition. The band came from Jacksonville Florida in the early
'70's with Ronnie Van Zant, Rossington and Allen Collins playing together in high school and adding other
members later. That school Robert E. Lee, also allegedly produced their strangley spelled group name.  It
seems a physical education teacher named Leonard Skinner didn't cotton to long hair and loud music. A run-in
with him helped get the boys suspended. Vowing to get even, they named there group after him, changing the
vowels to avoid a lawsuit and becoming famous enough to make the story a rock legend. Lynyrd Skynyrd first
hit national prominence in 1974 with a single called "Sweet Home Alabama" which exstolled the virtues of the
South in general and Alabama in particular. A huge Confederate Flag became one of the bands symbols. The
group went on to have two gold and three platinum albums and numerous runins with the law on tour. "Were
kind of like an old dog that ain't housebroke" Van Zant said in a 1976 interview. "I don't know...born under a
bad sign, I guess. The band's most recent hometown performance ended in an uproar with 16 persons getting
arrested. Police later estimated that 15,000 persons took part in the disturbance at the Jacksonville Coliseum
and caused $14,000 in damage. The band included Van Zant, Gaines, Rossington and Allen Collins
guitarist; Leon Wilkeson bass; Billy Powell keyboardist; and Artimus Pyle drummer. Gaines sister
and Leslie Hawkins were backup singers. All were from Florida except Pyle, from Spartanburg
South Carolina, and the Gaineses were from Seneca Missouri. The bands million-sellers were
"Pronounced Leh-nerd Skin-erd", "Second Helping", and "One More From The Road".
The bands latest album "Street Survivors" was released October 17 (1977)
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 11:53:58 AM »

I was supposed to see them two weeks hence. I had purchased an extra Street Survivors album when I heard they were gonna remove the flames from around the guys. I slit the plastic and inserted the tickets. The venue offered  refunds. $8.00, loge seats.
RIP guys.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 12:55:49 PM »

     Free Bird is one that will ....live forever........  BTW  Joe did you get your envelope ???
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 01:00:16 PM »

     Free Bird is one that will ....live forever........  BTW  Joe did you get your envelope ???
Just got in off the road I did'nt see it on the table however my wife could have it in her car....I'll let you know when she get's home from work  cooldude
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 01:09:52 PM »

   cool.....not the best quality....but kinda neat
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 02:07:28 PM »

1 of my all time favorite groups.  Cool
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 03:39:41 PM »

A plane out of gas killed them.

Damn what a shame.

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Needle and the Spoon. Thirty Days Lord and Thirty Nights comin home on a Air Plane Flight.

Not that time.

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 03:52:25 PM »

Thirty days, lord and thirty nights I'm comin' home on an airplane flight Mama waitin' at the ticket line Tell me son why do you stand there cryin' It was th...

I am sure the kin of these still cry when they hear these words.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 04:07:05 PM »

If I never hear Free Bird again it will be too soon.
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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 04:12:56 PM »

If I never hear Free Bird again it will be too soon.


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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 04:18:48 PM »



Not clickin on it.  Wink
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Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 04:25:34 PM »

Dude... ya won't listen to Free Bird.......  then I see your avatar..... gotta tell ya.... I don't think you will fit in..... coolsmiley Grin
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 04:41:00 PM »

Dude... ya won't listen to Free Bird.......  then I see your avatar..... gotta tell ya.... I don't think you will fit in..... coolsmiley Grin

the reason why I won't listen to Free Bird has a back-story.

Now mind you I've never really cared for Skynard. I don't hate em, I even kind of like a few of their songs. But I was a working musician for a long time and if you've ever played in any kind of gigging rock cover band then you'll know that you get asked to play Free Bird several times a night. You may even end up PLAYING it more than once in a night. I've probably played the song several hundred times in all of it's interminable length. It was kind of cool at first because it's a time-killer but it doesn't take long for it to become "PLEASE not this f**king song again".

It's not that way with all songs though. "Little Pink Houses" never got old.

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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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Ya never know how many good Summers ya have left.


« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 05:35:44 PM »

I understand that.... 
  A lot of bands HATE 'white rabbit'  But when Jefferson Airplane does it... it's Just Right!!!! cooldude
But I still don't get yer avatar..LOL coolsmiley
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 05:38:31 PM »

But I still don't get yer avatar..LOL coolsmiley

I take it you're not familiar with Glenn Danzig?
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 05:38:50 PM »



Not clickin on it.  Wink

Like a lot of us do with your posts.  2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2011, 05:53:41 PM »

But I still don't get yer avatar..LOL coolsmiley

I take it you're not familiar with Glenn Danzig?
I googled him.... so... he's like a devil worshipper???  ..Dude....
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 05:55:51 PM »

John mellencamp. Im from his hometown and know alot of his family.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2011, 05:56:40 PM »

But I still don't get yer avatar..LOL coolsmiley

I take it you're not familiar with Glenn Danzig?
I googled him.... so... he's like a devil worshipper???  ..Dude....

Actually if he's anything he's a comic book nerd. Don't take the prince of darkness thing too seriously.

But I just think the image of Tony Danza's head grafted on Glenn Danzig's body is funny.
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
But none together can testify to the rhythm of a road well bent.
Saddles and zip codes, passports and gates, the Jones' keep.
In August the water is trickling, in April it's furious deep.

1997 Valk Standard, Red and White.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2011, 07:29:01 PM »

John mellencamp. Im from his hometown and know alot of his family.

Didn't I see a section of 445? which goes over lake Monroe in one of his videos once?
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2011, 09:18:23 PM »

I remember when the plane crashed. just 2 years earlier, I smoked a doobie with artimus pyle...very sad day...
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2011, 09:35:17 PM »

Danzig made a conscious decision to let his "freak flag fly" and he OWNED it!  Did not do too bad for himself as far as the geeky,nerd types go. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2011, 09:57:53 PM »

There was no better feeling during my high school years than road tripping, passing a hog leg, and jamming on That Smell. cooldude cooldude cooldude

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