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Author Topic: PETA sues SeaWorld over "whale enslavement"  (Read 1960 times)
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« on: October 26, 2011, 04:17:53 PM »

ANIMAL activists filed a lawsuit against SeaWorld today that seeks to grant some constitutional rights to five killer whales that they say are being enslaved as marine park performers.

The lawsuit, filed in US District Court in San Diego by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), claims that the orcas are being held at SeaWorld parks in violation of the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery in the US and prohibits involuntary servitude.

The group argues in the lawsuit that the five orcas are, by definition, slaves, as they were forcibly taken from their families to be put in captivity, where they are denied their natural environment, subject to sperm collection and forced to perform tricks for SeaWorld's profit.

PETA has billed their case as the first ever suit to apply the amendment to nonhuman animals and Jeffrey Kerr, general counsel to PETA, said in a statement, "Slavery is slavery, and it does not depend on the species of the slave any more than it depends on gender, race, or religion."

SeaWorld, meanwhile, described the lawsuit as "baseless and in many ways offensive," slamming PETA for comparing the care of animals in captivity to "the abhorrent institution of human slavery."

"SeaWorld is among the world's most respected zoological institutions," the company said in a statement. "There is no higher priority than the welfare of the animals entrusted to our care and no facility sets higher standards in husbandry, veterinary care and enrichment than SeaWorld."

The "plaintiffs" listed in the suit include orcas Corky, Kasatka and Ulises of SeaWorld San Diego and Tilikum and Katina based at SeaWorld in Orlando, Florida.

Tilikum, a six-ton male orca, made headlines after drowning trainer Dawn Brancheau in 2010. Tilikum was also blamed for the death of another trainer in 1991 and a homeless man in 1999. SeaWorld came under fire for putting him back in its shows about a year after Brancheau was killed.

In addition to PETA, the orcas are "represented" in the suit by several "next friends," including killer whale expert Dr Ingrid N Visser and dolphin trainer-turned-animal activist Ric O'Barry.

Mr O'Barry said in an interview that in the best outcome of the lawsuit, rights would be implemented for the orcas, which could then be rehabilitated and considered for release into the wild.

Some of the killer whales may not ever be able to swim freely again, such as Tilikum, who "obviously has mental issues," Mr O'Barry said. But he argued that the orca could at least live out his days in a natural sea pen, feeling the tides of the ocean.

Decades ago, Mr O'Barry famously trained the dolphins featured in the Flipper television series and even trained "Hugo," the first killer whale in captivity in the eastern United States. But now he has been fighting to keep dolphins out of captivity, and his activism was featured in the Oscar-winning documentary The Cove.

Mr O'Barry not only faulted SeaWorld for keeping the orcas in captivity, but also said the company was setting a bad example for the thousands of kids that watch its "Shamu" shows every year. Using an analogy, he told NewsCore, "To teach a child not to step on a butterfly is as important to the child as it is to the butterfly."

While PETA might be able to get the court of public opinion on its side, animal law experts, like David Favre of Michigan State University College of Law, said he finds it hard to believe that such a case will survive in the judicial system.

"First the court has to agree that PETA has the ability and right to represent the whales, then they would have to argue that the constitutional amendment [applies] to whales," he told NewsCore in an email.

"While many in the US may believe such use is like slavery, it simply is a historical fact that the amendment was adopted to deal with human beings, and I don't see how they get past that point," he said.


Can this group get more idiotic. I wonder how the court is going to get killer whales to testify on the stand? I can't believe our Judicial system puts up with lawsuits over such ignorant things. uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2 uglystupid2
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 04:29:58 PM »

would it be wrong to call them insane?

these whales are captive and probably can't be returned to the wild. remember Keiko?

you 'own' your pets, that's the way the law sees your animals. that doesn't mean you can abuse them, but you own them (cats are debatable, they see it the other way around)
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 04:30:56 PM »

How do they know the whales dont like it?  ???
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 04:38:00 PM »

do a google search. peta has applied to open a porn site!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 04:45:04 PM »

OK... follow it thru.... it goes to court.... they sequester the whales..... they all die... uglystupid2 
but... it's right in the eyes of the dip sh....sh.... stuffs...
  I can't even go there...



so what do these whales taste like anyway?
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 05:54:38 PM »

iv'e tried whale meat..and trust me..you don't want any.. it tastes nothing like anything you've ever eaten, i think the closest i could come would be frying up a whole pan of fat from a roast then putting it in a sandwhich with a heaping helping of lard.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 05:59:58 PM »

Come on now.......Sea World should not be holding the whales in captivity.  Cry  That's food for folks that are starving....  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 06:05:15 PM »

PETA
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2011, 06:12:02 PM »

PETA
People eating Tasty Animals


Hmmmm............that's kinda hypnotizing   Shocked......I'm starting to get hungry  ??? ....Going to get some fish for dinner, thanks.   Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 06:31:02 PM »

The Orcas aren't enslaved.

They are imprisoned for killing baby seals. The murdering bas**rds!

Baby seals should have rights then too.

Let the PETA folks twirl on that one.

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 06:54:04 PM »

It is a national publicity stunt.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 06:55:22 PM »

P eople
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I don't see a problem.
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 08:06:19 PM »

i think the closest i could come would be frying up a whole pan of fat from a roast then putting it in a sandwhich with a heaping helping of lard.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kinda tasty?

As for PETA, I'd call them woefully misguided attention whores. But that's just me.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 09:06:18 PM »



As for PETA, I'd call them woefully misguided attention whores. But that's just me.


Jeeze Anvil quit being so nice, it's just not you... Grin
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 09:26:43 PM »

I have had Whale meat as well, while stationed in Iceland.  It was BBQ'd (sauce) and I didn't have it but once (honest... I didn't like it).

So... if PETA gets this to court, image what they can do with all the enslaved Dogs /Cats etc as well....  I don't imagine this going far at all (but knowing our legal system.....we can only hope)
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 10:01:14 PM »

Animals have a place in this life. It is usually right next to the potatoes and carrots and covered with grave. cooldude
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 10:12:47 PM »

I'd barbeque a PETA member just to see what they taste like,but dont eat the brains because it's obviously rotten and decomposing.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 10:35:30 PM »

I'd barbeque a PETA member just to see what they taste like,but dont eat the brains because it's obviously rotten and decomposing.


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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2011, 08:44:53 AM »

So if that is their stance... what do they think of the Omish horse drawn carts... The farms that use cows and horses to work their fields... (lately things have got more automated, but there are still thousands that are old school)... All the pet shops that have birds, gerbils, mice, fish etc.

I'm sure they all eat the producks produced by the same farms that use animals to to bring those products to market.

PETA is a PITA
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2011, 11:42:27 AM »

So if that is their stance... what do they think of the Omish horse drawn carts...

Take a guess.  Wink
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2011, 12:06:49 PM »

Ok so they put the Orca on the stand. Who is the interpreter

Or do they have to all go underwater to ask the questions and listen to the answers
as clicks and whistles and again who interprets

and how many PETA members does a whale have to eat to equal the protein it gets
in the 150 or more fish it would have each day

I would love to be able to toss a PETA volunteer into the mouth of the whale but
my understanding is the whales wont normally eat people

Now I have to add a question to my secretary job application forms, have you ever enslaved a whale?
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2011, 12:41:45 PM »

I'm kinda on the roast fat with lard on toasted rye wagon too.
Just imagine what you could do with an Orca slave.
When I was in Japan I bought a can of whale meat.
I gave it to my most liberal Sierraclubpeta member college proffessor brother.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2011, 03:02:00 PM »

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all whales are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.."  Oh, wait...

The PETA folks used to simply be amusing.  It seems that in recent years they have become less amusing and more dangerous.

We trudge on.
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2011, 07:31:22 PM »

i think the closest i could come would be frying up a whole pan of fat from a roast then putting it in a sandwhich with a heaping helping of lard.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kinda tasty?

As for PETA, I'd call them woefully misguided attention whores. But that's just me.

who are you and what have you done with Anvil? Evil  not in an argumentative mood? ???
well whales are good for 'chewing the fat'

you need to have a 'heart to heart' with your cardiologist  2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2011, 07:52:50 PM »

i think the closest i could come would be frying up a whole pan of fat from a roast then putting it in a sandwhich with a heaping helping of lard.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kinda tasty?

As for PETA, I'd call them woefully misguided attention whores. But that's just me.

who are you and what have you done with Anvil? Evil  not in an argumentative mood? ???
well whales are good for 'chewing the fat'

you need to have a 'heart to heart' with your cardiologist  2funny 2funny 2funny

A topic we all agree on? Doesn't get much better than that  cooldude
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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2011, 08:04:14 PM »

i think the closest i could come would be frying up a whole pan of fat from a roast then putting it in a sandwhich with a heaping helping of lard.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kinda tasty?

As for PETA, I'd call them woefully misguided attention whores. But that's just me.

who are you and what have you done with Anvil? Evil  not in an argumentative mood? ???
well whales are good for 'chewing the fat'

you need to have a 'heart to heart' with your cardiologist  2funny 2funny 2funny

You're assuming I have one.*



*A heart.
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2011, 08:47:01 PM »

i think the closest i could come would be frying up a whole pan of fat from a roast then putting it in a sandwhich with a heaping helping of lard.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kinda tasty?

As for PETA, I'd call them woefully misguided attention whores. But that's just me.

who are you and what have you done with Anvil? Evil  not in an argumentative mood? ???
well whales are good for 'chewing the fat'

you need to have a 'heart to heart' with your cardiologist  2funny 2funny 2funny

You're assuming I have one.*



*A heart.

It was intended as an ironic comment.....dont git yer panties ina wad, we all know you aint gots one and I'm sure he was not trying to ruin your reputation by suggesting otherwise!  Wink Evil Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 09:31:05 PM »

I may seem tough and stuff but in all actuality, I have the heart of a small child...

...I keep it in a jar on my desk...

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