SC Sheriff says "Time For Citizens To Arm Themselves" . . .

[donaldcc]

Spartanburg, SC Sheriff Chuck Wright says "Time For Citizens To Arm Themselves"	powered by Aeva

The sheriff of Spartanburg County, S.C., turned a news conference about an attempted rape in his community into an extended rant Monday in which he slammed a criminal justice system preferred by "liberals" for failing to keep the repeat-offender suspect behind bars -- and implored the women in his community to pack heat for self-protection.
 
"I want you to get a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Chuck Wright said at the Monday news conference, as reported by TV station WYFF. "Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/sheriff_gun_rant.html

[BF]

"Gun control, he said, "is when you can get your barrel back on the target quick."


    

[Highbinder]

I read that acticle, it reminded me of something I heard on our local news....that  concealed weapos permits were at a all time high for the county and that 1 out 6 people are now carrying a concealed weapon in a county of 50,000....seems folks are getting nervous about something...?????

[Oatmealman]

I read that acticle, it reminded me of something I heard on our local news....that  concealed weapos permits were at a all time high for the county and that 1 out 6 people are now carrying a concealed weapon in a county of 50,000....seems folks are getting nervous about something...?????

Lots of crazys out there,I conceal my 9mm,and open carry a xd .45,hell my women carries a .40s&w and she knows how to use it

[Jess from VA]

That cop is right. 

Cops are who you call after you've been raped. (not to be negative about cops at all, that's just the way it is, and a pistola is easier to carry than a cop). 

If your womenfolk aren't armed, they ought to be carrying this.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_0_20?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=kimber+pepper+blaster&sprefix=Kimber+Pepperblaster

[Gear Jammer]

SugarPlum carries   

[BigAl]

I don't really need a weapon to defend myself or offend anybody as you all know.

But when the shiiite hits the fan that is the only way to go.

Arm the Ho, I mean my Wife.

They are weaker and generally better shots than men.

A judge does not really care to let a woman off on gun charges esp. when defending their lives or protecting kids or trying not to get raped.

All woman should carry then the Rapist Murdering bas_______ds would think twice.

Just my two cents.

[musclehead]

I don't really need a weapon to defend myself or offend anybody as you all know.

But when the shiiite hits the fan that is the only way to go.

Arm the Ho, I mean my Wife.

They are weaker and generally better shots than men.

A judge does not really care to let a woman off on gun charges esp. when defending their lives or protecting kids or trying not to get raped.

All woman should carry then the Rapist Murdering bas_______ds would think twice.

Just my two cents.

and 'most' of the time are more level headed then the men in their lifes too.

(I did say MOST! )

[Jess from VA]

A judge does not really care to let a woman off on gun charges esp. when defending their lives or protecting kids or trying not to get raped.

Big Owl, I think you meant to say that judges are much more likely to let a woman off under these circumstances.  

It's absolutely true.... cops, judges, prosecutors, grand juries, and juries all see deadly force being more reasonable for the gentler sex.   Rather, that the woman's subjective belief she was in immediate danger of death or great bodily harm was reasonable is much more easily believed than for us 200lb neanderthals.  

This, of course, does not include maniac PMS cases, shooting the perp in both the front and the back multiple times........ or backing the car over a philandering husband five times.  

It took me five years of marriage before I decided I could trust my wife would not shoot me in anger, before I taught her to shoot and got her permit.  (I find the term gentler sex to often be ironic in the extreme)

[BIG--T]

I don't really need a weapon to defend myself or offend anybody as you all know.

But when the shiiite hits the fan that is the only way to go.

Arm the Ho, I mean my Wife.

They are weaker and generally better shots than men.

A judge does not really care to let a woman off on gun charges esp. when defending their lives or protecting kids or trying not to get raped.

All woman should carry then the Rapist Murdering bas_______ds would think twice.

Just my two cents.

Ditto on women carrying. I've been trying to talk my wife into getting a permit. There are a lot of crazies around here and it's running rampant everywhere! Chuck has had enough and has the right idea. If she feels her life is in danger she needs to shoot first and answer questions later. She's a good shot and I taught her well. She carries anyway and promises to get her CWP.
Old Chuck's got the right idea and it would save the tax payers a lot of money! 

[Willow]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

[Jess from VA]

I agree completely.  

Anyone considering a CCW must be willing and able to use the firearm.  Pointing and threatening will not do. (And you really shouldn't show it at all unless you intend to shoot)

There must be a sit down and discussion of use of deadly force.  If the person is unsure, get them to a class.... or two.  A combat mindset can be learned.  If they remain unsure, get them a perpper spray.  

But I think your estimate of 1 in 20 of CCW holders being willing is pretty conservative. 

The difficulty to me is knowing (in that split second) when you may shoot with complete confidence of not being charged with homicide/manslaughter, not the difficulty in terminating a truly deadly threat.  And I have a considerable amount of training/schooling on this subject. 

This book was published a long time ago and can be a little outdated in certain areas, but I highly recommend it to anyone thinking of a CCW for themselves or family.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=in+the+gravest+extreme+ayoob&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=NXS&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1592&bih=698&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=17486648861276461003&sa=X&ei=CrmwTouTL8rq0gHp0NGqAQ&ved=0CEcQ8wIwAA

http://www.recguns.com/Sources/VB3.html

[FloridaValkRyder]

What I learned in my course and seems to be holding up pretty well here in Florida is Pull, Aim, Shoot..Period! I'm not warning any body first   

[Oatmealman]

People that need to realize that it's them or the criminal.make it the criminal and pull the trigger first

[BIG--T]

I do agree with Willow on this one. You just have nanna seconds to assess the situation and shoot to kill if  that's your decision. The only time they will see mine is when a blue flame is coming from the barrel....and I hope my wife and I never have to use it.

[The Anvil]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

OTOH, this kind of thing can breed a little hysteria. I don't want to get shot by some jumpy broad just because I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[MP]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

OTOH, this kind of thing can breed a little hysteria. I don't want to get shot by some jumpy broad just because I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You do not give women much credit, do you?  I believe most, if not all women, can tell the difference between someone who is trying to rape them, and an innocent bystander!

MP

[BIG--T]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

OTOH, this kind of thing can breed a little hysteria. I don't want to get shot by some jumpy broad just because I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yeah with no witness around! You know they'll believe the woman if she has a clean record!

Well ya know what they say " when ya got to go ya got to go"!! Lol 

[The Anvil]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

OTOH, this kind of thing can breed a little hysteria. I don't want to get shot by some jumpy broad just because I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You do not give women much credit, do you?  I believe most, if not all women, can tell the difference between someone who is trying to rape them, and an innocent bystander!

MP

I could just as easily accuse you of not having much experience with women. But I didn't say "all women are jumpy", did I?

But I do have some experience on the subject. Let's face it; being the physically weaker sex they are more often preyed upon and finding themselves in protracted situations. I don't even blame them for being more en garde, but it is what it is. Do you make a habit of walking to your car with your keys poking through your fingers? Because most women I know who live in cities do just that. Why? Because the threat is real and constant. That has a cumulative effect in people.

But here's the thing; nobody really knows how they're going to react in a situation like that. This is why training is so important. Training can augment your nature and instinct. Your instinct can tell you that something is wrong, but your nature may be that of a person not prepared to pull the trigger. Training (if done properly) can override that nature and save your life. OR you might be the type to panic and pull the trigger too quickly. Training can override that tendency and keep your head on straight.

Point is; I'm not a fan of people just taking up arms with no training or understanding of the potential gravity of their choice, especially when an authority figure says they should. If you're carrying a weapon for protection then you're assuming that a life and death decision may need to be made at some point in your life. People need to plan accordingly and I'm afraid too many do not.

[BIG--T]

Anvil even with extensive training I think it really depends on the person, if she/he can actually take a human life. Sometimes all the training goes out the window to the point that one could take the gun away.

[The Anvil]

Anvil even with extensive training I think it really depends on the person, if she/he can actually take a human life. Sometimes all the training goes out the window to the point that one could take the gun away.

I'd agree that there are certain individuals who could not be helped with any amount of training.

[Chrisj CMA]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

I agree with you Carl in many situations where someone is threatening a person that is carrying, and that person has no clear standards of what is worth drawing on and what is not.  However, when it comes to rape (and I believe this is what started the topic) A woman presented with two choices 1. Rape/murder or 2. Draw/Fire....I do believe the statistics would greatly improve

[BIG--T]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

I agree with you Carl in many situations where someone is threatening a person that is carrying, and that person has no clear standards of what is worth drawing on and what is not.  However, when it comes to rape (and I believe this is what started the topic) A woman presented with two choices 1. Rape/murder or 2. Draw/Fire....I do believe the statistics would greatly improve

I totaly agree IF she doesn't freeze, paralyzed with fear. I guess it all depends on the person.

[98valk]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

Agree and a big reason why the military after WWII studies went to fully auto rifles. the studies showed that a high % cannot look through the cross hairs, see a person and pull the trigger. But pulling the trigger and spraying rounds everywhere they can do.

So a good question would be, Would more people carry and pull the trigger if they were only using non-lethal rounds rather then lethal rounds and have more will to use it as Willow has stated?

[The Anvil]

I hate to throw cold water on a popular subject, but my opinion is that someone carrying a firearm who doesn't have the will to use it is a dangerous situation.  Unfortunately, that likely includes the majority of the rape targets you're admonishing to carry.

One in six may be carrying a concealed weapon, but I'm guessing less than one in twenty have what it takes to make the quick decision and actually pull the trigger when it must be done.

Agree and a big reason why the military after WWII studies went to fully auto rifles. the studies showed that a high % cannot look through the cross hairs, see a person and pull the trigger. But pulling the trigger and spraying rounds everywhere they can do.

So a good question would be, Would more people carry and pull the trigger if they were only using non-lethal rounds rather then lethal rounds and have more will to use it as Willow has stated?

Again, I think that depends on the person. I've had nightmares about shooting an attacker and not stopping them. If anything I'm likely to step UP in lethality. But it's a valid question because not everyone is me.

[BigAl]

Perp sees gun he usually runs.

If perp hears gun he will get the runs.

Perp responds like Psychos do,, he will be killed like a fool.

Taught her to pretend it is a really big stick and the trigger is the poker.

Call 911 to clean up the mess and make sure there is just one story teller when they get there.


PEOPLE ARE NOT LIKE ANIMALS.

ANIMALS HAVE TWO REACTIONS ,,,FIGHT OR FLIGHT.

PEOPLE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION, THEY CAN STOP WHAT THEY ARE DOING, THAT IS WHAT THE GUN IS FOR TO STOP ACTION.

NOT ALWAYS TO BLOW THE BRAINS OUT OF SOMEONE.

BUT THE LATTER IS ALWAYS AN OPTION.

[BIG--T]

AL LET ME KNOW IF YOU EVER  RUN FOR OFFICE CAUSE YOU GOT MY VOTE!

[Willow]

Now where did I put that BS card?