Discipline

[BigAl]

Gone Crazy.

I would like to take this one Judge out for a Talk.

If you know what I mean.

This is criminal and the Judge should be prosecuted.

Don't watch if you are sensitive or are offended easily.

This is very troubleing.

A family court judge that decides who is abusive or not.

William Adams, who presides over child abuse cases, is still being investigated by the state's judicial conduct commission and the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, which on Thursday requested that he be removed from its cases until the investigation concludes

Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the internet	powered by Aeva

[bigguy]

Couldn't watch all of that. Looks to me like a case of assault. His language makes it pretty clear he was out of control. And he 's a Judge? With that kind of decision making?

[BigBod]

I'd love 7 minuites 35 seconds in a room with that guy..

[Jess Tolbirt]

since its in Texas i think he needs to be transferred to Brazoria County for trial.
I guarantee you this would never happen again with this judge...He probably wouldnt even make it to the trial...Brazoria County Sherriffs dept would probably administer their own swift justice...

[musclehead]

I wasn't going to post the vid, because it's pretty disturbing. I gotta tell you it's a life lesson I ddin't need to be told, I had the example from my mom, you never discipline your child while mad. you discipline your child with love in your heart.

the last time I ever had to spank my child she was 9, she was brought up right and besides being a good kid she was spanked when needed. which turned out to be rarely. I'm extremely proud of her.

this is just a beating pure and simple. the statute of limitations has run out, too bad. can you imagine you have to go to court and you draw THIS judge? I hope he doesn't "lose it".

[Jack]

I never spanked my kids after 11y/o but sometimes wanted to wring their necks.  Still do sometimes.

[BIG--T]

Gone Crazy.

I would like to take this one Judge out for a Talk.

If you know what I mean.

This is criminal and the Judge should be prosecuted.

Don't watch if you are sensitive or are offended easily.

This is very troubleing.

A family court judge that decides who is abusive or not.

William Adams, who presides over child abuse cases, is still being investigated by the state's judicial conduct commission and the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, which on Thursday requested that he be removed from its cases until the investigation concludes

Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the internet

I think most have seen it over and over on all the news media channels.
Forget the judge, I want a few minutes with the big, bad, dad.."father"!! First of all IMO that was abuse not just a 'whooping' and from the mother too. A 16 year old is way too old to spank and the poor girl has cerebral palsy too.

[Ricky-D]

The girl in the video was in an interview last night and she was lucid, intelligent and very well spoken.

She was accompanied with her mother who was to me. pitiful.

The bastard father, to whom I agree with all of you, needs some special attention, will escape any kind of legal prosecution due to the statute of limitations having run out.

if you missed the interview, I hope you may see it, for I am sure it will be run again. I saw it on Anderson Cooper, CNN.

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[old2soon]

1 min 25 secs and i want to do severe bodily harm to that(insert your adjective here). My dad hit us growing up. Not always with his hands.  The open hand applied to the butt ONLY. And just 2 or 3 is MORE than enough. I know for a fact that east Texas has a lot of old mines he could easily get lost in AFTER an attitude adjustment. Course we gots a lot of unexplored caves here in the show me-after an attitude adjustment. Just wonderin how he would like that belt used on him by someone 3 or 4 times as strong as he is and 2 or 3 times heavier than he is. I'll just bet he puts on a nice personna in public. Didn't mean to rant as i ranted!! RIDE SAFE.

[Ricky-D]

The greatest outrage (the beating notwithstanding) is the fact that he sat as judge in family court and dealt with cases of child abuse. (reported to be more than 50)

God will deal harshly with this individual.

He's already a pariah in his community and will surely be recalled.

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[czuch]

Well now HE'S all over the internet. Spinnin up the general populace.
Funny how noboby finds this acceptable. She'll grow up and pay him back in the worst way possible.
Never see his grandchildren and have the Christmas presents returned.
And in TEXAS, huh?  Gotta back? watchit.

[MacDragon]

Ya, he's been news all over the country... He's done and he knows it.  Hope his life becomes way more miserable than it was already.  Losehole...

[F6Mark]

I saw it on the morning news and I just chalked it up to another case of bad parenting.
Btw, I was born & raised in west Tx and although my parents stopped spanking us kids by 8 or 9, the school teachers (mainly the woodshop and metalshop teachers, and the coaches), all would whip your ass any time you messed up.  The woodshop would manufacture the paddles, they were works of art.  One time I got paddled for skipping school in the 8th grade- if any kid these days got paddled like that there woould be a major lawsuit- it's like getting caned!  Well maybe not quite so bad as that but still major weltage...
But I never heard of anyone ever getting paddled that was falsely accused.  And it wasn't unusual at all- it was more like an everyday occurence to one of my friends or the other or someone you knew.  But back then we knew it when we were doing something wrong and expected to get punished.

[3W-lonerider]

what i'm getting from the story is this..i don't agree with the way he handled the situation and shoulda been prosicuted at the time but heres what i'm getting..
 this happened 7 years ago..the daughter downloaded stuff off the internet that was illegal, she has held onto this vidio for 7 years. when her mother and father got divorced after this incident she had the choise of who she wanted to live with.. she picked her father over her mother..
 this girl has been in college living off her fathers money for several years..he even bought her a mercadies to drive..
 well it seems she is not living up to her end of the deal to do well in college and being a total screwoff.
 so her father told her to return the car to him and that she was cutoff money wise.
She basically told him that if he came and got the car he would regret it because she would make his life a living hell..In my opinion she is a spoiled little brat that needs life to kick her in the ass.
 

[donaldcc]

. . . .
She basically told him that if he came and got the car he would regret it because she would make his life a living hell..In my opinion she is a spoiled little brat that needs life to kick her in the ass.
 

     
  So you are saying it is OK for a family law judge to beat the crap out of a 16 year old girl, demean and curse her because she is spoiled 7 years later.  Do you think it is at all possible she could be a little screwed up being raised by that a..hole? 

  You don't have a daughter I am guessing?? ???

[3W-lonerider]

apparently you did'nt read my first sentence. did you. (..i don't agree with the way he handled the situation and shoulda been prosicuted at the time )..and what does me not having a daughter have anything to do with it.  i think the guy is a complete ass. BUT that does'nt take away from the fact that she is a spoiled brat that held this over his head so she could get what she wanted from him..
Besides when mommy and daddy got a divorce..if the man was that bad of a father and treated her so badly..WHY would she elect to live with him and not mommy..??????:

[BF]

what i'm getting from the story is this..i don't agree with the way he handled the situation and shoulda been prosicuted at the time but heres what i'm getting..
 this happened 7 years ago..the daughter downloaded stuff off the internet that was illegal, she has held onto this vidio for 7 years. when her mother and father got divorced after this incident she had the choise of who she wanted to live with.. she picked her father over her mother..
 this girl has been in college living off her fathers money for several years..he even bought her a mercadies to drive..
 well it seems she is not living up to her end of the deal to do well in college and being a total screwoff.
 so her father told her to return the car to him and that she was cutoff money wise.
She basically told him that if he came and got the car he would regret it because she would make his life a living hell..In my opinion she is a spoiled little brat that needs life to kick her in the ass.
 

Two wrongs don't make a right.  Seems both the dad AND the daughter are disfunctional.  

What the dad did was clearly over the line no doubht.....that was a beating pure and simple.  

However, at this point, the girl is purely seeking revenge and seems out to destroy her father for something that should have had resolution 7 years ago.  

[3W-lonerider]

nope..2 wrongs deffinatly don't make a right..but the only reason shes trying to take him down is because shes getting her free lunch taken away..

[PAVALKER]

I have mixed emotions on this..... I believe some kids deserve to be spanked and that it is sometimes the only thing they might understand.  And, I believe more kids could be deserving of a spanking as a form of discipline as well.  My brothers and I, even my older sister, were spanked when we did something wrong..... and quite honestly I appreciate my parents teaching me right from wrong.  The spanking pain doesn't last that long (even with the girl in the video) but the sting sticks with you in memory.  I occasionally spanked my two daughters when it warranted it, but not to the degree this father did (that I recall at least).   I also believe the father went  overboard, the mother got one good butt spank in as well.  Obviously, we didn't see a recording of the circumstances that brought about this form of discipline, but we did hear the father/mother say that she lies, steals and disobeys and it appears that there are other issues at hand besides the internet/downloading.  I do find it odd that this is just now coming out, after 7 years, and as a result of her being disciplined again for not doing well in college, only this form of discipline now appears to be just taking away her goodies for not doing well in school.  Just from what I am reading/seeing, I believe this girl was/is trying to manipulate her situation and her father in preventing the loss of her privileges... and it goes to show her character as well.

[3W-lonerider]

well said PA valker..you said it better than i did..most times my words don't match what i'm thinking...you know what i mean.

[donaldcc]

 
  yeah, what a surprise, his 16 year old daughter got on the internet for music and games what a rebellious young girl. we all know 16 year olds should not and would not ever do that.

  He is a family law judge.  time to teach her a lesson.  let's get wife and judge in and beat the crap out of her.  teach her a lesson.  very smart.. that will make her grow up to be an upstanding adult.  good parenting skills.  anyone out there doing that i am hoping child protective services gives you a visit.  

  
"MODIFY"  I am truly amazed that anyone would try to justify this reprehensible behaviour by an adult against a 16 yo girl who is reported to have some disabilities.  


 

  

[Valkahuna]

  yeah, what a surprise, his 16 year old daughter got on the internet for music and games what a rebellious young girl. we all know 16 year olds should not and would not ever do that.

  He is a family law judge.  time to teach her a lesson.  let's get wife and judge in and beat the crap out of her.  teach her a lesson.  very smart.. that will make her grow up to be an upstanding adult.  good parenting skills.  anyone out there doing that i am hoping child protective services gives you a visit.  

  
"MODIFY"  I am truly amazed that anyone would try to justify this reprehensible behaviour by an adult against a 16 yo girl who is reported to have some disabilities.  


 

Don, Take a step back and read those posts again. No one is justifying those beatings. Everyone is appalled by them. The comments being made are about the here and now. The beating was 7 years ago. I feel your outrage, but no one disagrees with you. Hey, I'm just sayin'

[RoadKill]

I appreciate all the things my parents done to make me who I am. Including all the things they did wrong. Yet,at the same time I know that the rebellion that they brought on themselves was well deserved and I still feel that I let them off easy. I held the grudge for more than the 7 yrs this girl did and I learned hard life lessons thru' the rebellious times, outside of their influence. I have brothers,both older and younger that bit their tongue and waited for their time. Those brothers are far away by choice and feel that they have been robbed of something. I have no remorse for taking my beatings and I throw it back in the parents face at every opportunity(the others dont have the balls to do it)....yet I am the one to forgive them first and burdened with taking care of things close to home.  I can see this girls point of view and I understand why she set back and waited 'till the time was right.
 I was too proud to ask for the free lunch.   
                   
                        Go figure 

[alph]

Interesting video.  It’s apparent that the girl had been beaten like that before since she seems to be the one that set up the video camera and taped it.  She knew that she WANTED to get this on tape.  The father has an anger issue, that’s obvious.  It’s interesting to find out that  the 16 year old girl held onto the video for several years then uses it to blackmail the father after he takes away her Mercedes!  Had the father taken away the girls internet when she was 16, maybe she wouldn't have downloaded anything that was questionable.  I’m not defending the father’s actions; I’ve got two daughters myself, and a son.  I stopped spanking when I realized it was easier to remove privileges, and more effective.   if the father knew she was doing things on the internet that she shouldn't have been doing, he should have put a block on it, or REMOVED THE INTERNET FROM HER BEDROOM!!  That would have been way easier!!  It’s easier to teach a kid that they're doing something wrong then it is to beat it into their head. 

[3W-lonerider]

ya know. why i even bother posting anything is beyond me. next time Donald..before getting your panties all up in a wad..re-read a post and understand it first before you jump to conclusions and fly off the handle.  

[donaldcc]

Don, Take a step back and read those posts again. No one is justifying those beatings. Everyone is appalled by them. The comments being made are about the here and now. The beating was 7 years ago. I feel your outrage, but no one disagrees with you. Hey, I'm just sayin'

ya know. why i even bother posting anything is beyond me. next time Donald..before getting your panties all up in a wad..re-read a post and understand it first before you jump to conclusions and fly off the handle.  

  Slept on it, reread and took the wad out of my panties.  Feels better with no wad.  

  Do not think anyone is defending the judge.  

His response "Just prior to the YouTube upload, a concerned father shared with his 23-year-old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to work hard and be her primary source of financial support, if she was going to simply 'drop out,' and strive to achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video game store," Adams' statement said. "Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it."

  His response to taped incident is that he was merely disciplining.  From his response she seems like an angry, spiteful young woman striking out at him because he wants to withdraw $$$ while he is "a concerned father".  OK for him to disagree with her lifestyle and to refuse to support it.  I still think it is good his "problem" was exposed by her and a thorough investigation should be undertaken to determine his suitability as a judge.  Looking at these small episodes we have seen, my initial reaction is -- No, not fit.

  I give her a little leeway.  There seems to be ongoing psychologic stress between the father/daughter and it is probably difficult to strike back at an abuser.  Hopefully she will put it behind here and the Judge will get the appropriate response for his actions after a fair review of the past.

  So . . .  If I stepped on any toes,  MEA CULPA!  MY BAD!  I lift the boot.  




  

[3W-lonerider]

 

[Oss]

kinda like watching jerry springer years ago

They both are the bottom of the barrel

He was so far over the line he is lucky the statute of limitations is past

She is a lowlife who held onto a blackmail tape so long the statute expired.

She did not deserve what he did to her. Nobody deserve that

Now I aint sayin its never right to discipline a kid with corporal punishment

I have always had one corporal punishment rule and it was enforced immediately

It was dont disrespect your mother.  Calling her any curseword got the back of my hand
they were all told that many times that I would do what I said and hoped I never would have to do it

Only had to do it ONCE to 1 of the kids. My middle girl never. My son went flying across the room used the what the F word on mom when I was there and that was the end of that
The oldest girl got out the belt and made the snapping noise and she cried so much I never got past that and she is a great kid today  My boy is respectful, and I do let him say whatever
is in his head to me, I made sure that there is no censor in what he says to me
but respect for your mother is necessary for you to respect all women. Thats my way

But a person I believe should be able to discipline their kids within reason. What I saw on
the tape is a person out of control, therefore out of reason and out of his mind
I am morbidly curious what the hell she did to make him that insane
YMMV

[Cruzen]

I would like to say that this is apalling to me but it's not.  That’s nothing worse than I used to get when I was a kid and I have to admit, I believe that I deserved every one.  I hold no animosity toward my parents.  I believe that people who think such actions screw the kids up are a bit off base.  It taught us who was the boss and not to do whatever it was we did that went against our parents rules.  If we did not like it we were free to leave.  Whenever it happened it was after we had gotten several verbal warnings.  It taught us respect and it also made us stronger for later life.  Not like the wimp’s of today who have a hard time dealing with pain or death.  Maybe it’s not the way things are today but maybe that is why kids are so screwed up today.  Spare the rod spoil the child.  Now that he’s 90, I thank my father for straitening us out before we got too far out of hand. 

I have to really control myself today when I see kids back talking their parents.  Several years ago I decked one kid for calling his mother a F….. B…. in my presence. 

[musclehead]

I saw it on the morning news and I just chalked it up to another case of bad parenting.
Btw, I was born & raised in west Tx and although my parents stopped spanking us kids by 8 or 9, the school teachers (mainly the woodshop and metalshop teachers, and the coaches), all would whip your ass any time you messed up.  The woodshop would manufacture the paddles, they were works of art.  One time I got paddled for skipping school in the 8th grade- if any kid these days got paddled like that there woould be a major lawsuit- it's like getting caned!  Well maybe not quite so bad as that but still major weltage...
But I never heard of anyone ever getting paddled that was falsely accused.  And it wasn't unusual at all- it was more like an everyday occurence to one of my friends or the other or someone you knew.  But back then we knew it when we were doing something wrong and expected to get punished.

actually some states still have corporal punishment in school districts, God bless Texas!

[Ricky-D]

When she was asked at the end of the interview which she and her mother gave on CNN (Anderson Cooper): Who would you like to go back and live with?

Her reply was to want to go back and live with her father.

Go figure.

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[Stormrider65]

A whipping is a whipping and a beating is a beating.  I don't support the father on the severity of the beating.  Above and beyond the call.  My father used to beat me with a razor strap, with the brass ring still on the end.  I have a scar or two because of it.  I got over it though.  Did it teach me right from from wrong?? Damn straight it did.   I sure as hell didn't do it again.  I was not a hellraiser or anything like that.  Just did stupid things.  Did I deserve any of it??  More than likely, yes.  The daughter sounds like my little sister.   She held certian things over the heads of both my mom and dad.  So, she got what she wanted.  Before both of my parents died, she, again, held these things over their heads and suddenly everything was signed over to her.  We all have some kind of disfunction in our families.  But I do know this for a fact:  Payback is a bitch.  We all have to answer for what we do, one way or another.  I applaude those who have children.  It takes a lot to raise them and teach them right.  I don't have any kids of my own.  A lot of times I thank God for that.  I do have step kids and some grandkids on my wife's side.  I love them all. I do declipine them, if needed.  I have popped them on the butt a time or two, but they all know when Grandpaw means business.  This(the judge and the daughter)  is just another example of going too far, on both the father and the daughter. 


Walt

[PAVALKER]

I would like to say that this is apalling to me but it's not.  That’s nothing worse than I used to get when I was a kid and I have to admit, I believe that I deserved every one.  I hold no animosity toward my parents.  I believe that people who think such actions screw the kids up are a bit off base.  It taught us who was the boss and not to do whatever it was we did that went against our parents rules.  If we did not like it we were free to leave.  Whenever it happened it was after we had gotten several verbal warnings.  It taught us respect and it also made us stronger for later life.  Not like the wimp’s of today who have a hard time dealing with pain or death.  Maybe it’s not the way things are today but maybe that is why kids are so screwed up today.  Spare the rod spoil the child.  Now that he’s 90, I thank my father for straitening us out before we got too far out of hand. 

I have to really control myself today when I see kids back talking their parents.  Several years ago I decked one kid for calling his mother a F….. B…. in my presence. 

      I think he was slightly overboard, but overall I think there are circumstances that brought this about and that those spankings were more to the norm of what a good bit of us grew up with.   If the daughter is now manipulating the father or getting back.... she deserves another spanking IMO.        

It's on Dr Phil today.... but I can't watch it right now and have to leave....  I'm sure Dr Phil will call it all appalling and wrong...... yadda yadda yadda.....     But I believe her father's side will be voiced to some degree on Dr Phil.