why I like Texas.......

[RoadKill]

Ok, when I caught two late teens crawling around in my garage (which sits 50 feet from the house) one got away. His buddy got a spade shovel upside his head before he could get out from under the overhead door. I pulled him out into the alley and left him lay for his buddy to come back and pick him up. I then called the police. Funny his buddy come back about the time they were putting him in the ambulance. He was also arrested. If I had been armed the out come may have been different. Here's my thought "beaware, steal from me and you may not see tomorrow, period". I don't care if your in my house, yard, garage, or car.

You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

Scoot had the shovel,the teens were not armed with spades. Pay attention when grown up's is talkin! 

[The Anvil]

Ok, when I caught two late teens crawling around in my garage (which sits 50 feet from the house) one got away. His buddy got a spade shovel upside his head before he could get out from under the overhead door. I pulled him out into the alley and left him lay for his buddy to come back and pick him up. I then called the police. Funny his buddy come back about the time they were putting him in the ambulance. He was also arrested. If I had been armed the out come may have been different. Here's my thought "beaware, steal from me and you may not see tomorrow, period". I don't care if your in my house, yard, garage, or car.

You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

Scoot had the shovel,the teens were not armed with spades. Pay attention when grown up's is talkin! 

I know. He said "if I had been armed". Pay attention when the grown-ups is talkin! 

[RoadKill]

Ok, when I caught two late teens crawling around in my garage (which sits 50 feet from the house) one got away. His buddy got a spade shovel upside his head before he could get out from under the overhead door. I pulled him out into the alley and left him lay for his buddy to come back and pick him up. I then called the police. Funny his buddy come back about the time they were putting him in the ambulance. He was also arrested. If I had been armed the out come may have been different. Here's my thought "beaware, steal from me and you may not see tomorrow, period". I don't care if your in my house, yard, garage, or car.

You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

Scoot had the shovel,the teens were not armed with spades. Pay attention when grown up's is talkin! 

I know. He said "if I had been armed". Pay attention when the grown-ups is talkin! 


Did he say he was armed or did he say " if " ?   You answered your own question " You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

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[scoot]

Ok, when I caught two late teens crawling around in my garage (which sits 50 feet from the house) one got away. His buddy got a spade shovel upside his head before he could get out from under the overhead door. I pulled him out into the alley and left him lay for his buddy to come back and pick him up. I then called the police. Funny his buddy come back about the time they were putting him in the ambulance. He was also arrested. If I had been armed the out come may have been different. Here's my thought "beaware, steal from me and you may not see tomorrow, period". I don't care if your in my house, yard, garage, or car.

You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

Scoot had the shovel,the teens were not armed with spades. Pay attention when grown up's is talkin! 

I know. He said "if I had been armed". Pay attention when the grown-ups is talkin! 

No, I don't consider that armed. I wasn't carrying a shovel around on my person for protection. If you consider something like that as being armed then everyone is armed, fists, car keys, anything can be used for personal defense (protection).

[The Anvil]

Ok, when I caught two late teens crawling around in my garage (which sits 50 feet from the house) one got away. His buddy got a spade shovel upside his head before he could get out from under the overhead door. I pulled him out into the alley and left him lay for his buddy to come back and pick him up. I then called the police. Funny his buddy come back about the time they were putting him in the ambulance. He was also arrested. If I had been armed the out come may have been different. Here's my thought "beaware, steal from me and you may not see tomorrow, period". I don't care if your in my house, yard, garage, or car.

You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

Scoot had the shovel,the teens were not armed with spades. Pay attention when grown up's is talkin! 

I know. He said "if I had been armed". Pay attention when the grown-ups is talkin! 

No, I don't consider that armed. I wasn't carrying a shovel around on my person for protection. If you consider something like that as being armed then everyone is armed, fists, car keys, anything can be used for personal defense (protection).

Did you use it as a a weapon?

Then you were armed. Look, I don't fault you for doing what you did, I think you were well within your rights. I just think that if you pick up a shovel with the intention of whacking someone with it then you've armed yourself.

And yes, if you've been trained to use your keys as a weapon then you're armed. If you haven't been trained then no.

[scoot]

Ok, when I caught two late teens crawling around in my garage (which sits 50 feet from the house) one got away. His buddy got a spade shovel upside his head before he could get out from under the overhead door. I pulled him out into the alley and left him lay for his buddy to come back and pick him up. I then called the police. Funny his buddy come back about the time they were putting him in the ambulance. He was also arrested. If I had been armed the out come may have been different. Here's my thought "beaware, steal from me and you may not see tomorrow, period". I don't care if your in my house, yard, garage, or car.

You don't consider a shovel "armed"?   

Scoot had the shovel,the teens were not armed with spades. Pay attention when grown up's is talkin! 

I know. He said "if I had been armed". Pay attention when the grown-ups is talkin! 

No, I don't consider that armed. I wasn't carrying a shovel around on my person for protection. If you consider something like that as being armed then everyone is armed, fists, car keys, anything can be used for personal defense (protection).

Did you use it as a a weapon?

Then you were armed. Look, I don't fault you for doing what you did, I think you were well within your rights. I just think that if you pick up a shovel with the intention of whacking someone with it then you've armed yourself.

And yes, if you've been trained to use your keys as a weapon then you're armed. If you haven't been trained then no.

I wasn't trained to use a shovel as a weapon, it was just there. Frankly I wasn't looking for anyone's blessing or forgiveness. The kid lived to tell his friends, and what can happen when you go some place you don't belong.

[aamcotrans]

I need to move to that free state of New Hampshire, where I am free to steal. Since they are so replaceable, I will know where to go to "receive" my new updated electronics once the owner buys new.

As for anvil, it appears you just like to hear yourself blather nonsense, and to prove a point, create more nonsensical bs to further validate your ignorance.

[RainMaker]

I need to move to that free state of New Hampshire, where I am free to steal. Since they are so replaceable, I will know where to go to "receive" my new updated electronics once the owner buys new.

As for anvil, it appears you just like to hear yourself blather nonsense, and to prove a point, create more nonsensical bs to further validate your ignorance.

Join the crowd rushing to put The Anvil on your ignore list.

[Gear Jammer]

Prove it.  I call BS.  Show me the stats, from gov't sources, like the FBI, where MORE people are shot by their own guns in a crime situation.  NOT those committing suicide, which is, I believe, where those stats come from.   We are talking about pulling a gun to defend oneself, or another, and then having that gun taken away, and used on the CCW permit holder. I say BS.  MP

 I don't have the statistic or even the desire to search for them, but I think Anvil is correct in his statement.  Many years ago when I attended a state criminal justice academy the instructor stated that 20% of cop gun fatalities were by their own gun and he wasn't talking about suicide.  Generally LEOs are trained to a higher level in gun retention than civilians.  

Cops are also "trained" to use their weapon as a last resort     .  That at times might allow the other guy to get closer to them than prudent     .   I'm sure that "last resort" training was mentioned in my CCW class, but my memory's faulty.      Before anyone is ever close enough to me to grab my weapon,it will already be empty.     If they're still able, they may be able to beat me to death with it. 

[DarkMeister]

Anything you grab to use against a person will, once used, be considered a weapon. Period. Chair, shovel, anvil, screwdriver, kitchen sink, anything.
Whether its use was justifiable or not is a different story.

[RoadKill]

So I threw the cat litter box in his eyes and stomped his knee...was I armed with kitty turds or an Ariat boot ?  Probably should ban both any how....Cat crap is dangerous stuff !

[DarkMeister]

So I threw the cat litter box in his eyes and stomped his knee...was I armed with kitty turds or an Ariat boot ?  Probably should ban both any how....Cat crap is dangerous stuff !

Dunno...I'll have to ask the wife, as I NEVER empty the litter boxes. 
Or so I'm told.

[The Anvil]

I believe cat turds are covered under a land-mine treaty.

[musclehead]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

didn't mean to stir up the hornets nest.  I'm still of the opinion my car stereo isn't worth a scumbags life, people can change. (yeah I know most won't) so how will I protect my property if I move to texas?

I'll use a starter pistol to get their attention, if they return fire I'll switch real ordinance

[Skinhead]

ButI have met bigger asshats than Anvil for sure.

I'm calling bulls**t.

Me to!

[Gear Jammer]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

[musclehead]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

[Gear Jammer]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

[fudgie]

So I threw the cat litter box in his eyes and stomped his knee...was I armed with kitty turds or an Ariat boot ?  Probably should ban both any how....Cat crap is dangerous stuff !

   Use the self clumping kind. It'll dry up the mucus membraines lol

[musclehead]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

you talking the weather or the food? I'm a gringos gringo,  sometimes bland is too hot fer me 



I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

[Gear Jammer]

"you talking the weather or the food? I'm a gringos gringo,  sometimes bland is too hot fer me"

I meant the weather     Although some would call the food a bit too spicey I suppose    
SugarPlum cooks a lot,,, and usually uses cayenne pepper a lot.  I have found food too spicey in some restaurants, but not often.  Hotter is better.  

[Hedgehog]

Speaking from the UK, where soon I suspect even water postols will be banned, and where you are supposed to virtually invite criminals into your home and then let them wreak mayhem without getting in their way....

I'd say that the important thing is balance.

Our situation is crazy - not being able to defend yourself or your loved ones without fear of being sent to jail is Mad and an insult to common sense. From this point of view the Texan position (as it were) seems good.

On the other hand too lax gun control laws seem equally crazy. Would a strict but fair permit system really be so bad?  :police:Dunno.
 ???

And of course there are always those moments when a 'good' person goes temporarily off the rails... (ever really lost your temper?).  :tickedoff:Personnaly the thought that umpteen citizens around me in a public space vould be carrying firearm does not make me feel safer. Then again, using a firearm in defence of home and hearth seems very different - like one of the most findamental rights there is (especially for a man).

Once a girl was being attacked (when I was at college) I ran out into the dark after the sound, and all I could find as a weapon was a rolling pin...luckily the guy was unarmed and the security guys had a dog.. Would have liked a gun though.

Trouble with humans is, we always do have trouble keeping things balanced.

No idea what the answer is, just saying...


HH

[Gear Jammer]

Speaking from the UK, where soon I suspect even water postols will be banned, and where you are supposed to virtually invite criminals into your home and then let them wreak mayhem without getting in their way....

I'd say that the important thing is balance.

Our situation is crazy - not being able to defend yourself or your loved ones without fear of being sent to jail is Mad and an insult to common sense. From this point of view the Texan position (as it were) seems good.

On the other hand too lax gun control laws seem equally crazy. Would a strict but fair permit system really be so bad?  :police:Dunno.
 ???

And of course there are always those moments when a 'good' person goes temporarily off the rails... (ever really lost your temper?).  :tickedoff:Personnaly the thought that umpteen citizens around me in a public space vould be carrying firearm does not make me feel safer. Then again, using a firearm in defence of home and hearth seems very different - like one of the most findamental rights there is (especially for a man).

Once a girl was being attacked (when I was at college) I ran out into the dark after the sound, and all I could find as a weapon was a rolling pin...luckily the guy was unarmed and the security guys had a dog.. Would have liked a gun though.

Trouble with humans is, we always do have trouble keeping things balanced.

No idea what the answer is, just saying...


HH

There are those in this country who wish to see the US become like Canada and Great Britain.     So far they're still the minority   

[Hedgehog]

Can't see the US doing an about turn like that.... like you say people wanting total control are in minority...on the other hand the UK is changing in the other direction.

Judges have been given guidance from the Home Secretary and it seems to be working. Two cases of householders stabbing intruders recently and no charges brought...

Still a long way from balance if you ask me. The onus is still on the housholder to prove they used 'reasonable force'.

Now they even count an air gun as a 'firearm' (??) Where they think the 'fire' is in an airgun beats me. Now that's too far in the other direction... Again no balance.
 
Replicas are also controlled.

Strangely antique firearms are allowed (Time I bought me a musket??!).

An uncle once had a blunderbuss (Boarding weapon from 19th century navy - 18 inches long, two inch wide brass barrel, and loaded with shot / chain etc.) Now that woudl stop a burglar in his tracks..

[MacDragon]

Getting back to the regularly scheduled programming... I'm originally a New England guy, born in Maine... lived in Connecticut for most of my formative years.  I moved to San Antonio Tx. and lived there for 10 years in the late 80s to 90s.  I enjoyed Tx a lot.  I, also, am an avid shooter and have had many guns over the years.  At least 2 dozen, bought and sold that I can think of off the top of my head.  Two of which I bought right out of the trunk of a Police car in SA..  (A number of my friends down there are officers which i stay in touch with)    We would go to the range or the woods at lease 3-4 times a month to shoot.  Went through a lot of ammo in those days.  Had  "0" problems living down there.  Perps seem to be a bit more cautious in a state where there's a good chance that their intended victim is carrying...   It very well could be that I was just never at the wrong place at the wrong time.  Who knows?

I don't know how you do it living in Massachusetts now. I don't think I could ever go back.

Moved back when my mom wasn't doing so well in Maine.  (only 2 hours north) Rather than hopping on a flight each time my sis would call to say she was in the hospital.... Bought a house that won't sell for what I bought it for now.

[The Anvil]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

No fresh water. That's kinda important.

[musclehead]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

No fresh water. That's kinda important.

ever heard of reverse osmosis? it works on florida water, I bought a filtration system and now my water tastes as good as it did in Oregon.  well except in Oregon it came out of the tap around 45 degrees 

[Jabba]

I caught a kid IN my truck trying to steal the stereo out of it once.  In a mall parking lot.  He was standing with his feet on the ground leaning into the S-10 trying to get the stereo out.  I was 25 years old, 300 lbs and pissed off.  I ran at the truck and slammed the door shut on his legs.  Then as he got up to run... caught him by the back of the shirt.  As he was trying to pull away... I pulled him back toward me (he weighed about 140 lbs) and punched him in the back of the head with my other hand.  The impact knocked him out of my grasp and he escaped...

That blow could have done real damage.  If he had died as a result of that would I be a murderer?  I was not carrying at the time.

Same goes for a time when I was hanging with 2 girls after a college party.  I was talking to one when the others ex-boyfriend showed up.   I saw him hit her... I came unhinged..  I remember hitting him him falling and getting up, hitting him again, him falling and getting up then him hitting me... then I hit him again he fell and I followed him to the ground... Then I remember the girls getting me one by each arm and pulling me off the guy, his face hamburger.  I know they called the ambulance... I never heard anything else about that guy.

I hope he learned a lesson.  Now he probably only beats his women in the safety of his own house.  

I now carry sometimes.  It's hard for me to carry concealed.  i have never found a comfortable way to execute it.  But I am prepared to use it if I need to.  I had 4 guys get out of a car once with ill intent.  I just showed them the gun from the drivers seat of my car.  They wisely changed their strategy to one of retreat.  Those are the unreported 'lots' of uses of legal guns that go unreported.

Jabba

[musclehead]

Speaking from the UK, where soon I suspect even water postols will be banned, and where you are supposed to virtually invite criminals into your home and then let them wreak mayhem without getting in their way....

I'd say that the important thing is balance.

Our situation is crazy - not being able to defend yourself or your loved ones without fear of being sent to jail is Mad and an insult to common sense. From this point of view the Texan position (as it were) seems good.

On the other hand too lax gun control laws seem equally crazy. Would a strict but fair permit system really be so bad?  :police:Dunno.
 ???

And of course there are always those moments when a 'good' person goes temporarily off the rails... (ever really lost your temper?).  :tickedoff:Personnaly the thought that umpteen citizens around me in a public space vould be carrying firearm does not make me feel safer. Then again, using a firearm in defence of home and hearth seems very different - like one of the most findamental rights there is (especially for a man).

Once a girl was being attacked (when I was at college) I ran out into the dark after the sound, and all I could find as a weapon was a rolling pin...luckily the guy was unarmed and the security guys had a dog.. Would have liked a gun though.

Trouble with humans is, we always do have trouble keeping things balanced.

No idea what the answer is, just saying...


HH

I've actually gotten so mad I've seen red, but I wanted to smash face and beat to bloody pulp, not shoot'em. we've got the rep of shoot first, wild west whatever image comes to mind but that is far from the truth.

when the mad man Jared shot all those people in Tucson two of the folks nearby were armed and held fire because of potentially  hitting bystanders. we do have some restraint.

[The Anvil]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

No fresh water. That's kinda important.

ever heard of reverse osmosis? it works on florida water, I bought a filtration system and now my water tastes as good as it did in Oregon.  well except in Oregon it came out of the tap around 45 degrees 

No, you don't understand. It's not that the water in Texas sucks, it's that it's literally disappearing.

http://www.lcra.org/water/drought/index.html

From what I understand it's not just Texas, it's the whole southwest, Zona, Nevada, NM, SoCal. If it doesn't get better it's going to be a bad scene real soon. They're going to need to look into desalinization if it keeps up.

[musclehead]

I caught a kid IN my truck trying to steal the stereo out of it once.  In a mall parking lot.  He was standing with his feet on the ground leaning into the S-10 trying to get the stereo out.  I was 25 years old, 300 lbs and pissed off.  I ran at the truck and slammed the door shut on his legs.  Then as he got up to run... caught him by the back of the shirt.  As he was trying to pull away... I pulled him back toward me (he weighed about 140 lbs) and punched him in the back of the head with my other hand.  The impact knocked him out of my grasp and he escaped...

That blow could have done real damage.  If he had died as a result of that would I be a murderer?  I was not carrying at the time.

Same goes for a time when I was hanging with 2 girls after a college party.  I was talking to one when the others ex-boyfriend showed up.   I saw him hit her... I came unhinged..  I remember hitting him him falling and getting up, hitting him again, him falling and getting up then him hitting me... then I hit him again he fell and I followed him to the ground... Then I remember the girls getting me one by each arm and pulling me off the guy, his face hamburger.  I know they called the ambulance... I never heard anything else about that guy.

I hope he learned a lesson.  Now he probably only beats his women in the safety of his own house.  

I now carry sometimes.  It's hard for me to carry concealed.  i have never found a comfortable way to execute it.  But I am prepared to use it if I need to.  I had 4 guys get out of a car once with ill intent.  I just showed them the gun from the drivers seat of my car.  They wisely changed their strategy to one of retreat.  Those are the unreported 'lots' of uses of legal guns that go unreported.

Jabba

at least 800,000 times a year (by the governments count) the the visual of a firearm deters crime.
quite possibly many more then that.

[Serk]

Would a strict but fair permit system really be so bad? 

A strict but fair permit system is what was used, from my understanding, in disarmed countries like the UK, Australia, etc, so that when the government made the decision to disarm the population, they knew who had the guns and could easily round them up.

And of course there are always those moments when a 'good' person goes temporarily off the rails... (ever really lost your temper?).  :tickedoff:Personnaly the thought that umpteen citizens around me in a public space vould be carrying firearm does not make me feel safer.

If umpteen citizens around you in a public space are armed, and you DO get a crazy person who goes off the handle, those umpteen armed citizens around you can help neutralize the threat of the crazy person. In a disarmed society, only the criminals have guns, and there's no one around to stop the armed crazy person until they've gotten a really high body count. (That's why school shootings are so popular, law abiding citizens generally can't carry guns on schools, so the crazies that want a high body count know they can go on for quite some time before anyone puts up a challenge to stop them.)

[aamcotrans]

Here is your New Hampshire freedom.
http://hosted2.ap.org/ALOPE/d0066651ed0741d0a4b5a17736605923/Article_2011-12-02-Mother-Son%20Deaths/id-969cf6c02d98458980919f5fc445f0a6

Can't even protect your own kids. It sickens me to see that this poor guy got 15 to 30 years!

[3fan4life]

Here is your New Hampshire freedom.
http://hosted2.ap.org/ALOPE/d0066651ed0741d0a4b5a17736605923/Article_2011-12-02-Mother-Son%20Deaths/id-969cf6c02d98458980919f5fc445f0a6

Can't even protect your own kids. It sickens me to see that this poor guy got 15 to 30 years!

From the link:

Nadeau imposed the sentence the state requested, including a provision that five years will be suspended if he earns his college degree and takes anger management classes. With the suspension and credit for time served since his arrest, Smeltzer could be free in nine years.

My question would be, Are the NH taxpayers footing the bill for this?

Judging from the article this guy wasn't a candidate for father of the year by any means.

But, if his situation didn't qualify for a "temporary insanity" defense then no one's does.

[fudgie]

at least 800,000 times a year (by the governments count) the the visual of a firearm deters crime.
quite possibly many more then that.

Hmmm....Really. The anti-open carriers will disagree.  Whats the stats on women and children running amuck because of a presence of a firearm.  Read a story, with a news link, about a OC'er detering a hold up in Ohio. Then again, I read alot of them. 

[musclehead]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

No fresh water. That's kinda important.

ever heard of reverse osmosis? it works on florida water, I bought a filtration system and now my water tastes as good as it did in Oregon.  well except in Oregon it came out of the tap around 45 degrees 

No, you don't understand. It's not that the water in Texas sucks, it's that it's literally disappearing.

http://www.lcra.org/water/drought/index.html

From what I understand it's not just Texas, it's the whole southwest, Zona, Nevada, NM, SoCal. If it doesn't get better it's going to be a bad scene real soon. They're going to need to look into desalinization if it keeps up.

I've lived in a drought state, like most everything else when the rain starts falling the attention shifts else where

[musclehead]

at least 800,000 times a year (by the governments count) the the visual of a firearm deters crime.
quite possibly many more then that.

Hmmm....Really. The anti-open carriers will disagree.  Whats the stats on women and children running amuck because of a presence of a firearm.  Read a story, with a news link, about a OC'er detering a hold up in Ohio. Then again, I read alot of them. 

I should've said 'presence', concealed or not when revealed it is a deterent

[The Anvil]

I had forgotten Texans have the ablilty to use deadly force in defence of property.

The property doesn't have to be "your" property either.  This right extends to the life and property of not only you and your family, but others as well.  With this "right" comes the responsibility to exercise that right. Welcome to the Republic of Texas.

I just keep adding positives to the list, got any negatives?

It gets kinda hot sometimes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,   

No fresh water. That's kinda important.

ever heard of reverse osmosis? it works on florida water, I bought a filtration system and now my water tastes as good as it did in Oregon.  well except in Oregon it came out of the tap around 45 degrees 

No, you don't understand. It's not that the water in Texas sucks, it's that it's literally disappearing.

http://www.lcra.org/water/drought/index.html

From what I understand it's not just Texas, it's the whole southwest, Zona, Nevada, NM, SoCal. If it doesn't get better it's going to be a bad scene real soon. They're going to need to look into desalinization if it keeps up.

I've lived in a drought state, like most everything else when the rain starts falling the attention shifts else where

It might not be that simple this time. That giant aquifer in the midwest (Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas etc) is depleting and they're having to dig wells ever deeper and I know Texas seems like it's far, far away from corn country but they're related. Well eventually if things don't change it's going to run out. That has further reaching (as in VAST) implications other than the immediate drinking water and cheap beer production situation.

Which is not to say that it's simply a drought issue, it's also a usage issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer

Hey AAMCO, thanks for the vittles. 

[DarkMeister]

Dumbo tries to mug an Ultimate Fighter.

Heart-warming story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/anthony-miranda-tried-rob_n_1129836.html

[MacDragon]

Dumbo tries to mug an Ultimate Fighter.

Heart-warming story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/anthony-miranda-tried-rob_n_1129836.html

The "victim" apparently had a number of weapons at his disposal... hands, feet, etc... Picked the wrong guy for sure.