Jesse James vs Junior vs Senior

[RoadKill]

Ratings,Television,marketing and all0 that B.S. have skewed things a bit.
If I had to have one of them in MY shop and doing things for/with me it would be Jesse James,with out hesitation. I'm not gonna marry him and would not want him dating my friends or daughters but he is still the better craftsman. I can deal with the asshole part...fight fire with fire 

[The Anvil]

One thing I noticed about Jr's bikes is that his designs for tins are (or at least WERE back when I paid attention) faceted rather than curved. I believe this is because he's a hack who can't really form metal, just cut geometric plates and then weld them together.

[RoadKill]

One thing I noticed about Jr's bikes is that his designs for tins are (or at least WERE back when I paid attention) faceted rather than curved. I believe this is because he's a hack who can't really form metal, just cut geometric plates and then weld them together.

Jr. is an artist that aint very good with his paint brush,but he has an artful eye. Sr is the hack,retired welder trying to be everything...Jesse is the craftsman. I think Jess and Paulie would make AWESOME ratings and sell alot of T-shirts together!  YMMV

[BF]

Well......if only they could get Billy Lane out of jail, resurrect Indian Larry and throw in Jesse James along with Jr and Sr on a weekly basis......now that'd be a show.   

[RoadKill]

Well......if only they could get Billy Lane out of jail, resurrect Indian Larry and throw in Jesse James along with Jr and Sr on a weekly basis......now that'd be a show.   

I can go with that....

[Bad On 3]

Jessie is an old school bike builder  yes he has skill but he suc--he gave up bike buildin to run with the hollywood lady and cheated on her and then kat dumped him  hes broke he needs money  his ex got some and he lost his old shop  i would never ride any of the choppers jessy built a reg old school chopper that was the same old thing but the frame   jessy the sissy looked like get me off this thing   come on a wooden seat  jr went with art  his bike looked awsome but not for ridin     they should have made them build a bike and then ride it 800 miles  sr dont do anything on the bikes and the bikes are made off a computor by a punk kissas- kid that dont build nothing      sr didnt build a bike because he knew his son would kick his a--   the son made the old man alot of money and has the best ideas    jr builds what the cust.orders and i think he does a great job    there bikes are made to look good not ride --what a shame 

[fudgie]

I vote JJ. He is alot easier to watch then the other 2 RUB's. Makes alot better bikes imho. Anyone ever seen JJ ex wife? If your on my email list you have. 

[The Anvil]

I vote JJ. He is alot easier to watch then the other 2 RUB's. Makes alot better bikes imho. Anyone ever seen JJ ex wife? If your on my email list you have. 

I don't watch Sandra Bullock movies. 


Unless you mean Janine. In which case, yes. Big fan of her "work".

[big d]

having met both sr and jr on many different occasions i can say that jr is a princess. he is a spoiled kid that had part of his fathers company handed to him free of charge and abused it. yes sr has a bad attitude/temper and yells alot, but that didnt give jr the right to abuse the relationship and thus the power of being daddy's little boy. and while sr has not stayed up with the technical aspect of building bikes at least he is still something of a gear head. jr, on the other hand has to rely on his TEAM to build his bikes as he cant do it. in all the years of the show jr has never built a gas tank, installed the wiring harness or even took apart a motor. he relied on vinny to do all the real work while he disapeared, managing to come back in time to look like he was  doing some work. yes jr does have an artistic eye, but that is about where it stops once you get past his limited welding ability that he....yes LEARNED FROM HIS FATHER. infact with the exception of his wife and the guy building his tanks EVERY ONE IN JR'S SHOP IS EX-OCC EMPLOYEES. he is a great thief of employees. wether you like sr or not you have to admit he is a smart business man as this is the second empire he has built in his life time. all jr can say is that he used the skills that his father gave him, took ex employees of his fathers and built a company where he is not much more than a mirror image of what his father has become. a figure head of a company that doesnt do much work on the product that they build...as far as the bikes go jesse james's bike looked very uncomfortable to ride but he is a craftsman that is talented. sr's machine was innovative but not a bike and jr's was just for show. i would not want any of them.

[Cruzen]

Paul Jr. currently has the best looking wife and his dad seemed more attached to his now dead dog than to his lady friend which makes me wonder so between the two in my book that makes Jr. the undisputed winner in the personality department.  Jessie on the other hand is Tiger Woods hero.

[Bob E.]

having met both sr and jr on many different occasions i can say that jr is a princess. he is a spoiled kid that had part of his fathers company handed to him free of charge and abused it. yes sr has a bad attitude/temper and yells alot, but that didnt give jr the right to abuse the relationship and thus the power of being daddy's little boy. and while sr has not stayed up with the technical aspect of building bikes at least he is still something of a gear head. jr, on the other hand has to rely on his TEAM to build his bikes as he cant do it. in all the years of the show jr has never built a gas tank, installed the wiring harness or even took apart a motor. he relied on vinny to do all the real work while he disapeared, managing to come back in time to look like he was  doing some work. yes jr does have an artistic eye, but that is about where it stops once you get past his limited welding ability that he....yes LEARNED FROM HIS FATHER. infact with the exception of his wife and the guy building his tanks EVERY ONE IN JR'S SHOP IS EX-OCC EMPLOYEES. he is a great thief of employees. wether you like sr or not you have to admit he is a smart business man as this is the second empire he has built in his life time. all jr can say is that he used the skills that his father gave him, took ex employees of his fathers and built a company where he is not much more than a mirror image of what his father has become. a figure head of a company that doesnt do much work on the product that they build...as far as the bikes go jesse james's bike looked very uncomfortable to ride but he is a craftsman that is talented. sr's machine was innovative but not a bike and jr's was just for show. i would not want any of them.

Who did Jr steal from OCC that was still working there?  Vinnie and Cody had left long ago.  And if anyone did leave OCC to go to PJD, wouldn't that indicate that maybe they know who they would rather to work for?  Sr might have started OCC, but I think there's an arguement that Jr's designs built it to what it became (along with the circus of a tv show)...and was rewarded with a significant percentage of the company.  Sure, Jr had alot handed to him so he might be a bit of a "princess" as you say.  But he did start his own company that is now competing on a level with the old man.

[BIG COUNTRY 23321]

I would love to find out what the percentages were on the voting. I have looked all over and cannot find them. They showed them on TV the night before the live show and Sr. only had 1% but would like to know the difference between Jr. and Jesse James.....

[R J]

I voted for Jr, but, I'll say 1 thing.     Only JJ's bike would probably pass the rigid inspection to get a VIN # in California.   From what I have seen of SR & JR's bikes, no way Jose would they get a state issued VIN #.

I've seen JR & SR ride their bikes, but I call them death traps.     I don't have much faith in their welds.

If you notice, they always pull a frame off of the shelf when they start a build.

JJ in my opinion, even though he is an asshole, for screwing around on last wife, she is a sweetheart in my book, builds ALL of his bikes from scratch.   The frame is a bitch to get right without a jig, so I'll say his frames are all the same cause he probably only has 1 jig.

On Hot Rod Power Tour, we stopped at his shop, and he had burgers, chips and a drink for everyone.

He had some wicked wild cars, trucks and etc he had built.     He had a 39 Chevy Coupe, I'd of traded the boss for.    She would have killed him, but I'd at least have had a sweet 39, very similar to the one 1 lost in my garage fire along with the kid's choice Mustang.

[G-Man]

Well......if only they could get Billy Lane out of jail, resurrect Indian Larry and throw in Jesse James along with Jr and Sr on a weekly basis......now that'd be a show.   

I can go with that....

I used to love those Biker Buildoffs!  I commented to my son that we saw more bike building in one hour of Biker Buildoff than we did in three hours of this awful spectacle.

As far as Senior Vs. Junior,.....IMHO, Junior's designs is what kept the doors open at OCC.  You can see a huge difference in the bikes Jr. designs vs. what that nut at OCC designs.  Also, there was a huge decrease in OCC's corporate theme extravaganzas when Jr. and Mikey left.  So much that OCC couldn't pay their mortgage.  Aaaaaaaand, Sr. got verrrrrrrry rich off of Jrs. designs.

[Hoser]

I remember a JJ episode when He rode a bike he built to Sturgis, and the seat caught fire from being to close to the exhaust.  I think it went into Sturgis in the chase truck.  Hoser   

[Fudd]

Now if any had built this it would have been the hands down winner!

GOOD JOB!

I wish those two thumper-heads could see what they could be building.

[Clark]

Now if any had built this it would have been the hands down winner!

GOOD JOB!

I wish those two thumper-heads could see what they could be building.

NEWP... NEEDS A BLOWER

[BF]

Somebody oughta send that pic to Junior and Senior with a little Valk background for info and see what kind, if any response ya get. 

[The Anvil]

Somebody oughta send that pic to Junior and Senior with a little Valk background for info and see what kind, if any response ya get. 

I'd rather not see a perfectly good valk engineend up in an ill-handling garage queen.

[Clark]

Somebody oughta send that pic to Junior and Senior with a little Valk background for info and see what kind, if any response ya get. 

YER KIDDN..RIGHT.. to most of their viewers anything but a v twin would be sac relig

[BF]

Somebody oughta send that pic to Junior and Senior with a little Valk background for info and see what kind, if any response ya get. 

YER KIDDN..RIGHT.. to most of their viewers anything but a v twin would be sac relig

Your right.  I lost my head for a minute there.   

[Stormrider65]

Sr, Jr, JJ, well we have to admit one thing,  they keep trying to build something around a Harley motor.  I've seen a lot of builds from all of them, even Injun Joe and a couple of others.  They are nothing but very expensive bar hoppers.  No comfort, no fuel mileage, tank at a 45 degree angle and so high up you have to sit on a couple of New York City phone books to see over it.  V-twins are old school(Harley).  Like the plate on Smokin Joe's Yellow  I/S says,  6 Beat 2.  Its starting to look alike after a while.  You can only stretch forks so far, paint in so many styles, weld fancy designs and attach them in strategic places.  Ever since I rode my first Valk, I knew what was cool.  I have told a lot of people who ask about the Valkyrie that this will be my last bike. Our bikes are unique and don't follow the "popular" crowd.  At least I know I can start my Valk from one end of the country to the other and will not have a major breakdown.  The "popular" one will have to have sponsors, escort, on call mechanics, chase truck, parts on call, ect. just to make it across the county line.  But, as always, each to his/her own.  Opinions vary.
 
rant over

I now return you to the regularly scheduled program, already in progress

Walt

[fudgie]

I'd rather not see a perfectly good valk engineend up in an ill-handling garage queen.

 

[Popeye]

I remember a JJ episode when He rode a bike he built to Sturgis, and the seat caught fire from being to close to the exhaust.  I think it went into Sturgis in the chase truck.  Hoser   

That also happened to Billy Lane, exhaust right under the seat.  Had to dose it with water
and put tin foil on it to keep it cooler.

I would buy a JJ bike before I would by one from Jr. or Sr.

[Gryphon]

I remember a JJ episode when He rode a bike he built to Sturgis, and the seat caught fire from being to close to the exhaust.  I think it went into Sturgis in the chase truck.  Hoser   

I thought that was Billy Lane's bike on one of the Biker Build-off episodes.

[G-Man]

Somebody oughta send that pic to Junior and Senior with a little Valk background for info and see what kind, if any response ya get. 

YER KIDDN..RIGHT.. to most of their viewers anything but a v twin would be sac relig

Your right.  I lost my head for a minute there.   

They've built bike with "alternative" motors before.  They even built one with a lawnmower motor.