Galfer brake lines came in.... Gotta question.

[Bugslayer]

My brake lines came in, and they look great! I've got a question, though.
On the front set, there are two "fittings" that the right and left brake line screw into. There is also a short cross over line that also screw into them. My question is, should anything be used on the threads to keep them from leaking and get a good seal? Or should I use threadlock?

I e-mailed Galfer with no reply. Today I called their customer service and talked to a lady.... who said she would give their "tech service" my message. Of course, no call back. Go figure.

Thanks.

[98valk]

don't put anything on the threads, it could contaminate the fluid. sealing washers should be used.

on a side note, there is actually no such thing as thread sealer, ie, teflon tape, pipe dope, neither actually provide much sealing, their job is to provide lubricant to the threads to allow the threads to engage deeper into the taper. the threads are actually what provides the sealing for taper pipe threads.

[quexpress]

My brake lines came in, and they look great! I've got a question, though.
On the front set, there are two "fittings" that the right and left brake line screw into. There is also a short cross over line that also screw into them. My question is, should anything be used on the threads to keep them from leaking and get a good seal? Or should I use threadlock?

I e-mailed Galfer with no reply. Today I called their customer service and talked to a lady.... who said she would give their "tech service" my message. Of course, no call back. Go figure.

Thanks.

I have used teflon tape on mine without any problems. As previously mentioned, it might not have been required ... but gave me peace of mind! 

[Bugslayer]

don't put anything on the threads, it could contaminate the fluid. sealing washers should be used.

on a side note, there is actually no such thing as thread sealer, ie, teflon tape, pipe dope, neither actually provide much sealing, their job is to provide lubricant to the threads to allow the threads to engage deeper into the taper. the threads are actually what provides the sealing for taper pipe threads.

That makes sense. Thanks.
The only washers that came with the set are the crush washers for the banjo bolts. After looking closer at how the threaded ends go into the fittings, it looks like the very end (the part the treads rotate on) will seal the lines.
Thanks again.

[Bugslayer]

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I have used teflon tape on mine without any problems. As previously mentioned, it might not have been required ... but gave me peace of mind! 
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It looks like it'll work without putting anything on the threads. Now if my garage wasn't one big freezer, I'd be out there putting them on. 
 Thanks for the reply!

[mikochan]

I was looking mine over today and was wondering how they are going to mount on the forks? Do we have to get new nuts and bolts or can we reuse the existing?
To cold here now to start replacement.

Thanks

[The Anvil]

I was looking mine over today and was wondering how they are going to mount on the forks? Do we have to get new nuts and bolts or can we reuse the existing?
To cold here now to start replacement.

Thanks

Are they dual (as in; two separate ones coming out of the master cylinder with a common banjo bolt) lines or a y type line?

I have a Y type line (one line coming off the MC that branches off just below the lower triple clamp to go to the left caliper) and I used adel clamps (available at any parts store) in the stock bolt holes on the bottom of the lower triple clamp normally used for the OEM manifold to hold the line in place. I then cut the rubber grommets off of the stock lines and re-used them on the fender brackets.

If you have dual lines you can get a little creative with the adel clamps and still use the stock manifold bolt holes. I'll get some pics later of that area if you want.

Adel clamp:

[mikochan]

There are actual 4 hoses and 2 metal "connection blocks". The blocks are suppose to mount on each fork with a short hose in between and hoses going to the MC and calipers.
I think a will need to get some SS bolts and nuts to mount the "blocks".

thanks

[The Anvil]

So they're like the stock setup but with threaded blocks and fittings instead of swedged junction points? If that's the case the you should be able to use the stock manifold bolts and adele clamps along with the stock fender brackets.

[Bugslayer]

There are actual 4 hoses and 2 metal "connection blocks". The blocks are suppose to mount on each fork with a short hose in between and hoses going to the MC and calipers.
I think a will need to get some SS bolts and nuts to mount the "blocks".

thanks

I'm in the process of installing my Galfer lines. When you take off the stock system , you'll need to remove the mounting brackets that attach the stock line to the forks. Those brackets  will go back where they came from on the forks, and the new blocks will mount to the brackets. I did have to get two SS bolts, washers & nuts to mount the blocks to the brackets.

[fordmano]

Here are a couple pictures that might help a tiny bit. I used the stock brackets but like you picked up some longer Stainless bolts.





After I looked at the picture a while I guess they won't help much,,, but I haven't done any real changes lately so I figured I would leave them here and share them again...

Oh and the link to all my upgrade and maintenance pictures from the last 1.5 years or so.
http://s974.photobucket.com/albums/ae222/fordmano/Valkyrieupgradeprojects2010/

[GJS]

Oh and the link to all my upgrade and maintenance pictures from the last 1.5 years or so.
http://s974.photobucket.com/albums/ae222/fordmano/Valkyrieupgradeprojects2010/
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Fordmano,

I love your extended piggies!
Where did you get the extensions?

Cheers,

Glenn

[gordonv]

fordmano, I thought there was something I was missing, looking forward to posts for your project.

You need to go out and buy another bike and start another one...  hmmmm... I need a bike, there is a nice one in CA right now, with the CB and blue/silver I want...... I have to ship from CA, so I wasn't going to buy from there, but I don't know how a private sale needs to progress.

[JC]

Tried installing my new Galfer lines on the front and couldn't get them to stop leaking at the crossover. Ended up tightening them too far and......... snap! 

Learned an expensive lesson there. They MUST have sealing washers, don't attempt to install the lines without them. Now if I can just find another crossover line and T fitting............

[Bugslayer]

Tried installing my new Galfer lines on the front and couldn't get them to stop leaking at the crossover. Ended up tightening them too far and......... snap! 

Learned an expensive lesson there. They MUST have sealing washers, don't attempt to install the lines without them. Now if I can just find another crossover line and T fitting............

That sucks. Sorry about your bad luck.
The only washers on my Galfer system are on the banjo bolts. The crossover line dosen't have any washers, and they haven't leaked a drop.

[Robert]

They wont leak either they bottom out and they are cone shaped at the bottom so they seal perfectly. The banjo gets copper washers. Just a tip put some clear silicone on the ends of the lines that are  clamped to the fitting. Let me explain a bit better the lines have a clear coating over the stainless braid. The clear coating doesnt meet the crimped on end and the stainless is open to the elements at this point. If you wash the bike or are in any kind of weather the water gets in there and makes the line look really bad. It supposed to be stainless so you think it wouldn't matter but it does rust. If you take a little clear silicon and cover this area then water doesn't get in between the plastic and the stainless braid.

[Robert]

JC I may have anther crossover line that I took off my bike when I replaced my lines. Ill look and just post if interested also Galfer may even ship you a line at no cost of minimal cost if you call them.

[JC]

JC I may have anther crossover line that I took off my bike when I replaced my lines. Ill look and just post if interested also Galfer may even ship you a line at no cost of minimal cost if you call them.

Thank you Robert! If you have one I'd be much obliged, drop me a PM if you find it. I did call Galfer and they will sell individual parts, so at least it's not a lost cause.