Two Guns, one bullet? Need some recommendations

[Fatboyman05]

I went shooting about 4 months ago at a public range in Ocala. I also took the CCW "class" with my friend and I want to start shooting. I havent put in for the CCW paperwork but will soon however I want to get some more (IE better) instruction. I wouldnt consider carrying with the limited training I have so far and not sure if I would carry after I do have more training.

I want to get two pistols for several reasons and so when I go shooting I can also take my 20 year old daughter sometimes or a friend who dosent have a gun. For a point of refrence, I have two .22 pistols that are 40 and 70 years old so not looking to shoot them much. I also have a nice mossberg 20 gauge pump.

I wouldnt mind getting two of the same gun but I would also be interested in one wheel gun and one semi-auto. I would like to stay with one caliber but not sure how realistic that is.

I am sure there is more info you may need to know to make a recommendation, so please just ask.

my thoughts-
same caliber - one bullet to stock up on
two of the same gun - familiarity, parts interchange
two diffrent types of guns - exposure to more than one kind / type of gun


John

[PAVALKER]

I will recommend 9mm because it is a common caliber, readily available and not too expensive to shoot on a regular basis for practice... and you need to practice to become familiar with your carry gun.  I would also recommend a semi auto .22, so you can practice for even less cost or have your daughter come and get used to the .22 before she shoots the 9mm.  You already have two 22 pistols, so that semi auto in a 22 caliber would fit right in by keeping the caliber stock on hand to 22 and 9mm.  You can get a second 9mm after you confirm you like the first one (sometimes that is not so easy).

As for 9mm's semi autos, I am a Ruger fan, but specifically the stainless and aluminum Ruger frames.... built like tanks, extremely durable and very reliable.  A Ruger P85, P89, P93, P94  and some others all share the same magazine too, even with a carbine (PC9)  (common use, can be shared between more than one gun).  There are Polymer/plastic guns that are much lighter, but I don't think they are nearly as durable (IMO).  The heavier frames also help with recoil and stability in regaining acquisition of target after firing.

That is my opinion.....  but ultimately you need to make sure you like the feel of the gun

[RoadKill]

Stick with 22 for now....Wheel gun/automatic/auto rifle/lever action rifle/pump action etc....
Cheap to stock up on and cheap ammo allows more range time. Once you admit that you are a gun nut, you will have an easier time expanding to more calibers and may even buy ammunition just for an excuse to go buy a gun in that caliber!     

[Farther]

I have had a CCW since the '70 and have for a time been paid to carry as an LEO and I have found that the older I get the smaller my carry piece has become.  What you may find is that your range/plincking gun might be different than you end up as a carry gun.  This is not to say that you won't have to train with your carry gun.  The gun that I carried for work is now my "house" and range gun but is multi caliber in that it was designed for the .40 SW round but also has a .357 Sig barrel, 9mm barrel and a .22 barrel and slide.  There are small S&W J-frame wheel guns in 9mm (but not currently manufactured) which would work well with a 9mm semi-auto as well as some Rugers 9mm wheel gun I believe.  Semi-auto and revolver rounds are of different design and the semi-auto round needs some extra equipment to be used in a properly chambered revolver.  So what I carry now is a Kahr 9mm (14 oz) on my belt and a S&W 340Sc .357 J-frame (12 oz) in my pocket.  I need to get to the range!!!

[Serk]

Opinions are like... well... we've all got 'em... 

But my opinion if I were to only have 2 handguns (The horror! )

Springfield Armory XD Sub-Compact in .40 S&W for concealed carry, and 2nd Springfield Armory XD (Full size) in .40 S&W for "House gun", extra fun, whatever...

Most parts are interchangeable between the two, and the familiarity you gain with either will (mostly) cross over to the other, so you're comfortable with it whether it be your carry gun or your beside the bed gun.

The cost and availability of the 9mm do make a strong case for it, but the .40 is just a far better round IMHO, more stopping power, almost as much capacity (Smaller rounds than .45) and still very easy to come across. (It's the standard caliber for both the FBI and the US Coast Guard, as well as many law enforcement agencies.)

[Psychotic Bovine]

In my experience, you can find revolvers and autos in the same caliber, but they are pretty rare.  I know Ruger made a 9mm sp101 revolver that used moon clips, not sure if they still do.  I am a fan of .40 s&w as a caliber as it's a potent and compact round.  I like many choices in handgun, though.

[Jess from VA]

I agree with Serk completely, if you really want two guns in one caliber.  Except as a newbie, the 9mm really may be easier for you to shoot accurately (and others, like a spouse or sister).  You could not do better than a pair of XDs in short and long bbls.  

Revolver cartridges are rimmed to not fall thru the cylinder, and auto rounds are rimless so they stack uniformly in a magazine.  You can get wheel guns in auto calibers (9mm/.40/.45), and generally have to use the quick reloading moon-clips to hold/load the rounds in the cylinder (or it may be optional). I have a couple .45acp revolvers and they're great, and heavy.  But if you really want a revolver, I'd just stick to a .38/.357 and not let that influence you on having an auto as your second gun.  Really, having to buy two different ammos is not a big deal.

My usual advice is for a newbie is to get one .357/.38 medium wt 4"bbl  revolver with adjustable sights for his first serious gun (for many reasons).  And use it to learn to shoot safely and defensively.  Then having spent time at the range looking at what others shoot, and doing your homework, and maybe renting a few different guns at the range, you find out what you really want.  

And do not confuse carry guns with home defense/practice/range guns.  You should learn how to shoot a full or medium size pistola before buying and packing a mini.  Some carry midsize, I only do rarely.

[Jess from VA]

In my experience, you can find revolvers and autos in the same caliber, but they are pretty rare.  I know Ruger made a 9mm sp101 revolver that used moon clips, not sure if they still do.  I am a fan of .40 s&w as a caliber as it's a potent and compact round.  I like many choices in handgun, though.

Dude, how much for the old blue revolver with dark brown grips at 3 o'clock?   

[Psychotic Bovine]

Jess, my dad would kill me if I sold that!  It's a Ruger Security Six with target sights and grips in amazing condition.  

also, I found a revolver in .40.  No idea on quality....
And it doesn't need moon clips. 

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Pitbull_74020.html

[Bigwolf]

I went shooting about 4 months ago at a public range in Ocala. I also took the CCW "class" with my friend and I want to start shooting. I havent put in for the CCW paperwork but will soon however I want to get some more (IE better) instruction. I wouldnt consider carrying with the limited training I have so far and not sure if I would carry after I do have more training.

I want to get two pistols for several reasons and so when I go shooting I can also take my 20 year old daughter sometimes or a friend who dosent have a gun. For a point of refrence, I have two .22 pistols that are 40 and 70 years old so not looking to shoot them much. I also have a nice mossberg 20 gauge pump.

I wouldnt mind getting two of the same gun but I would also be interested in one wheel gun and one semi-auto. I would like to stay with one caliber but not sure how realistic that is.

Fatboy, it is very wise of you to seek more training before deciding to actually carry.  Defensive use of a firearm is far different from normal target shooting.  Choose an instructor very carefully for that advanced shooting class and check his credentials. 

Since you are new to defensive shooting, I would recomend you start with a revolver.  Revolvers are more forgiving of mistakes than semi-autos.  After you have been shooting for a while, you can switch to a quality semi-auto and get new training with it.

Choose a gun with no edges on it to catch on clothing when you need to get it  out quikly.  IE: no adjustable sights, no hammer spur.  If you happen to find yourself in a gunfight, Mr Murphy is already there and you certainly don't need to hand him anything else that might be able to go wrong.  The gun is no good to you if the sight gets caught in your clothes when you go to jerk it out.

I would suggest a gun chambered in 357 magnum but also suggest you shoot 38 specials in it.  My reason is two fold, a cartrige that is accidentally a few thousands too long will lock a revolver up and it will take time to unjam it.  Do not give Murphy that opportunity!  Secondly, if you do have to shoot some ill content person, you will end up in civil court even though you might be justified and not guilty in criminal court.  When that happens, you do not want some 90 year old grandma in the jury hearing you used a "magnum".  If she does, she will begin to think of you as "Dirty Harry" and it will not go well for you.

As revolvers go, Ruger makes the toughest on the market.  They are the only revolvers that lock the cylinder on both ends when the gun is closed.  This helps to keep the cylinder aligned with the barrel.  Ruger makes some mighty fine Semi-autos too.  But for now I believe the Ruger SP101 would be your best choice.

If and when you do decide to move on to a semi-auto, you might do better starting with a 9mm.  The 40 S&W is a better stopper but also comes with more recoil which can be a problem for a new shooter.

Also, I tell students to carry the same gun, the same way, all day, every day as much as possible.  Again, this is a Mr Murphy thing.  If you do need to pull your gun and use it, it is not good to have to think about what gun you are carrying and where you are carrying it.

As someone alse said, Opinions are like doorknobes (or some hole thing) but those are my thoughts.  Take what ya like of mine and leave the rest.  It is great to know another conscientious person is getting a CCW.

Wolf

[Clark]

lots of good advive.. my .02 is as a beginner DONT get a 40.. a 40 is a high pressure round and many people have tried em and found they cant shoot em well because of muzzle flip... much the same as a 357 mag.. makes it more difficult to be able to recover for a second shot hopefully in the same place as the first..ON TARGET.. my advice would be to go to a dealer/indoor range combo where you can try different calibers and brands to see which suits you best..the other suggestion would be to search and join a couple of concealed carry forums and read what the gun nuts have to say about different brands and calibers... sorta like goin to the tech board here.. join and ask questions.. ride safe...p.s. depending on your budget on the lower end a bersa 9mm is a good bargain and works well

[sugerbear]

you might want to look at this one.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/12/15/springfield-xdm-3-8-compact/

kinda like to guns in one.

change the magazine for carry(short) to range (long)

i'm thinking about buying on to do double duty.

[Wetrudgeon]

A lot of very good advice here.  For our part, we echo the recommendation for an experienced shooter the .22 rimfire for practice; and 9mm for more serious work.  Both rounds are plentiful and (relatively) inexpensive.  If one desires, one can have both revolver and semi auto in both calibers (although 9mm revolvers will likely need to employe clips for the rimless cartridge).

Practice and training are clearly indicated for concealed carry.  Remember for concealed carry:  The smaller the handgun the easier it is to carry and the more likely you are to actually carry it.  However, the paradox is that the smaller the handgun the more difficult it is to shoot well.  Concealed carry is all about tradeoffs and compromises. 

We trudge on.

[solo1]

You better not sell that Security Six, Chris!

My advice would be to shoots lots of rounds through a .22, either a semiauto or a revolver or both..  Do your homework and then find what's best for you.

I'm not a fan of the 9mm. It would be harder to find a round that would be suitable in both a revolver and a semiauto. I'd say three different calibers: .22, and two different center fire rounds..  Shoot the .22's, go for sight picture, safety, and repeatability, then find out what you would want in a center fire.

Safety and familiarity should come first. A revolver would be first choice for a center fire firearm.

[The Anvil]

Desert Eagle in .357! 

Seriously though, I'm not a fan of half-moon clips. I totally buy into your desire for ammo commonality but I think that rimmed cartridges are for revolvers and that's what you should be putting in them. Personally, I'd find a nice, reliable auto in 9mm (because as mentioned it's common and cheap) and a wheelgun in .357 because it can also shoot .38spl which is cheap also.

I think the .22 is fine for basic marksmanship and firearm training, but if you plan on carrying then you should be "training" with that weapon. The last thing you want to do is to need your 9mm and have all of your muscle memory references trained for a .22 pistol.

[Jess from VA]

Jess, my dad would kill me if I sold that!  It's a Ruger Security Six with target sights and grips in amazing condition. 

You better not sell that Security Six, Chris!

OK. OK... just asking.  LOL     It's a bit nippy for a ride to Indiana anyway.

BTW, two and three-shot moon clips are WWI stuff... most if not all modern auto caliber revolvers take full moons (5, 6 or more), and they are easier to use than other conventional speed loaders.

[solo1]

To clear up a possible misunderstanding, I wasn't advocating a .22 for carry.  As I noted, many people  never get the basics down before they venture into more powerful center fires.  as a result, 'spray and pray'  might be the result in a drastic situation.  It might anyway 

I shot in a .22 league for many years, starting in 1946, and became quite familiar with safety, familiarity, and sight picture. H&R 9 shot revolver first (lead spitter), High Standard Trophy, Ruger Mark, Model 41 Smith,  and finally a Browning Medalist.  Shooting with these .22's I became quite proficient in accuracy first.    This background was a big help when going to centerfire firearms like the .38 special, .357 Mag, .44 Special, and .44 Mag.  A .22 is much cheaper to learn the basics, both in the firearm price and the ammo.

I don't think that any one here would recommend a Valkyrie as their first bike.  Something smaller and lighter is best to start with as a first bike.  The same applies to handguns.

[Serk]

Digesting all the comments here, may I throw out a Third Way?

Get 2 Springfield Armory XDs in .40 S&W (One sub-compact and one full size)

And get a decent $200-$300 .22 semi auto for initial learning (And later plinking and teaching others)

Specifics would be which one fit you better, although I'd trawl pawn shops and gun stores looking for a used Ruger MK II Target Model over just about any of the ones currently being manufactured.)

[solo1]

All good comments here.  Another suggestion.  A Sig 250.  gives you a choice of .357 Sig, .40 S&W, and the option to buy compact, regular, and long frames., all in one gun.

I have a Sig 250, ugly but works fine, both in .357 Sig and .40 S?W.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

To meet you're criteria, I'd get a good quality .22 LR revolver, you've got to decide if you want single or double action.

And a Walther semi-auto 22 pistol. You can get them with a long or short barrel, they are completely ambidextrous and can be dry fired all day long without hurting them because the safety blocks the hammer but still allows it to fall naturally when the trigger is pulled. The short barreled one will disappear in a deep front pants pocket and although many will dislike it for carry because it's a "poodle shooter" the "poodle shooter" in your pocket is far more useful than the .45 in the closet.

One of my sons has one of the above mentioned Walthers with the longer barrel which I've shot several hundred rounds though. One like it will probably be my next .22. It may not have quite the accuracy potential of my Ruger .22 because of the Rugers fixed barrel but it's light weight, good accuracy, ambidextrous nature, ability to dryfire without snapcaps and the ability to install either the longer or shorter barrel on the same frame more than make up for it.

[Valkernaut]

I've got KelTec's sub 2k and am looking for a Glock in .40 cal. Use same mag. read reports on the folding sub2k....

[The Anvil]

To clear up a possible misunderstanding, I wasn't advocating a .22 for carry.  As I noted, many people  never get the basics down before they venture into more powerful center fires.  as a result, 'spray and pray'  might be the result in a drastic situation.  It might anyway 

Agreed. Shooting ANY pistol will help with your aiming technique and ability to put the muzzle on target.

[MNBill]

S/W - M and P line, although I do not have one some police departments and security folks I know are going to them. Two of my friends that carry them find them easier to control than the Glock,,, that said I am a Glock fan for a durable works every time gun. It will not drive nails like alot of the guns above but they are forgiving if dirty and accurate enough for self defense, and relatively inexpensive. Glock 26 or 27 for carry and a 17 or 22 for practice. If you get into reloading later on the 40 cal is a high pressure round and not so forgiving for new reloaders and the 9 mm is more forgiving. All my Glocks will shoot anything from a plus P to cheap Blazer rounds where other guns I have, especially the smaller ones are fussy about ammo.

[The Anvil]

S/W - M and P line, although I do not have one some police departments and security folks I know are going to them. Two of my friends that carry them find them easier to control than the Glock,,, that said I am a Glock fan for a durable works every time gun. It will not drive nails like alot of the guns above but they are forgiving if dirty and accurate enough for self defense, and relatively inexpensive. Glock 26 or 27 for carry and a 17 or 22 for practice. If you get into reloading later on the 40 cal is a high pressure round and not so forgiving for new reloaders and the 9 mm is more forgiving. All my Glocks will shoot anything from a plus P to cheap Blazer rounds where other guns I have, especially the smaller ones are fussy about ammo.

My USP is fussy about ammo. Most factory loads are fine but it does not like reloads.

[Psychotic Bovine]

That's strange.  I don't have a single firearm that doesn't work with my reloads.  Might depend on how many times the brass has been reloaded (case length). 
Just my thoughts. 
Just set up our press to start reloading .45-70 gov't rounds.  Can't wait to get powder and primers and take that Sharps out and see what it can do!

[The Anvil]

That's strange.  I don't have a single firearm that doesn't work with my reloads.  Might depend on how many times the brass has been reloaded (case length). 
Just my thoughts. 
Just set up our press to start reloading .45-70 gov't rounds.  Can't wait to get powder and primers and take that Sharps out and see what it can do!

I'm not the one reloading them. It's usually range reloads and yeah, those are likely out of spec. As a result I only shoot factory (Winchester or Federal) in the USP.

[solo1]

The comment about the Glock and the.40 S&W round is right on.  The .40 is a higher pressure round so care must be taken in reloading it.  It also is not forgiving if the case is not well supported in the chamber. Glock had some  initial problems with that.

The Glocks are reasonably accurate, completely reliable firearms.  However, do not fire lead bullets in them.  The polygonal lands in the barrel build up lead rapidly which could lead to a stuck bullet in the barrel, don't ask me how I know.  I'll tell you anyway. I was firing my model 27 with my lead reloads when one shot didn't 'feel' right. I stopped, removed the mag., pulled the slide back and ejected the next round.
Sure enough, no light down the barrel.  I had to soak the barrel in WD40 and drive out the bullet with a steel flat punch. An inexperienced shooter would've kept on firing.

Glock specifically mentions no reloads and no lead, I thought that I knew better on the lead.

I don't have the 27 but still have a Glock 35 Tactical/Practical in .40 for a house gun.  No blame on the 27, my fault!

[The Anvil]

I was firing my model 27 with my lead reloads when one shot didn't 'feel' right. I stopped, removed the mag., pulled the slide back and ejected the next round.
Sure enough, no light down the barrel.  I had to soak the barrel in WD40 and drive out the bullet with a steel flat punch. An inexperienced shooter would've kept on firing.

Wow, that could have been a REALLY bad scene.

[Bartman3562]

In my experience, you can find revolvers and autos in the same caliber, but they are pretty rare.  I know Ruger made a 9mm sp101 revolver that used moon clips, not sure if they still do.  I am a fan of .40 s&w as a caliber as it's a potent and compact round.  I like many choices in handgun, though.

Now there is a gun ( Coonan 357 magnum at 6:30 )  Bought mine in 1985 and ran reloads, 38 specials, everything through it.  Never failed me and man, what a fireball.  Wouldn't recommend for carry, or a new shooter, but they are excellant pistols.  Would love to check out the new ones to see how they compare.
www.coonaninc.com

[Chrisj CMA]

For revolvers......I cant imagine one better than the .357  I have a model 19 and a 686 both S&W.  THe action on a DA smith revolver is top of the line.

I would love to have one of these as far as same bullet guns.  THey are a tad spensive though
http://www.coonaninc.com/products.php/pistol/cPath,5

[musclehead]

Jess, my dad would kill me if I sold that!  It's a Ruger Security Six with target sights and grips in amazing condition.  

also, I found a revolver in .40.  No idea on quality....
And it doesn't need moon clips. 

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Pitbull_74020.html

got the DE next to the north America arms mini  lol!  talk about the big and the little

[Psychotic Bovine]

In my experience, you can find revolvers and autos in the same caliber, but they are pretty rare.  I know Ruger made a 9mm sp101 revolver that used moon clips, not sure if they still do.  I am a fan of .40 s&w as a caliber as it's a potent and compact round.  I like many choices in handgun, though.

Now there is a gun ( Coonan 357 magnum at 6:30 )  Bought mine in 1985 and ran reloads, 38 specials, everything through it.  Never failed me and man, what a fireball.  Wouldn't recommend for carry, or a new shooter, but they are excellant pistols.  Would love to check out the new ones to see how they compare.
www.coonaninc.com

Yes, the Coonan is a fine pistol.  I ordered mine back in March and got it in October.  Well worth the wait.  I am curious as to how it differs from the old model.

Yeah, I though the DE next to the NAA mini-revolver was a nice contrast.  I would have preferred a mini revolver chambered for .22 short as it's dimensions are more balances, imho, but it's a gem nonetheless.  Per ounce, my mini-revolver is the most expensive pistol in my collection!

[Fatboyman05]

First of all I would like to thank you all for your great information; PVALKER, RoadKill, Farther, Serk, Psychotic Bovine, Jess from VA, Bigwolf, Clark, sugerbear, Wetrudgeon, solo1, The Anvil, FryeVCRCCS0067, Valkernaut, MNBill, Bartman3562, Chrisj CMA, Musclehead

In looking at the responses I should have been more open to the eventual idea of more than one caliber. I will be looking into all of the suggestions / information now that finals week is over and I have some time. For the short term I am going stick with the two I have and will be looking for a semi auto in .22 caliber. My reasoning is I can practice with the revolvers  and add in the semi auto which will eventually be available for my daughter and for me. Once I am proficient and looking to upgrade, well….   

Hey Serk, just where do I find those $200 to 300 semi auto’s….


And considering I have the .22 caliber already I should have realized that I would be adding a caliber 


Then I will have to test some guns, most notably a 9mm and a .357 / 38 spl. From what I have seen on the .40 I really like it but I need to work my way up to it as far as I am concerned.

I really appreciate the comments regarding concealed carry and also reloading. It will be some time before I would be at that level but it is all good things to consider.

I dug the pistols out of, well, the newer one is a Hi-Standard sentinel, 4 in and the other one is a smith and Wesson with adjustable sights and a patent date on the grip of June 5, 1917. It  is a youth model so it has smaller grips….

John

[Serk]

Hey Serk, just where do I find those $200 to 300 semi auto’s….

If you have an Academy Sports and Outdoors near you, I consider them to be the Wal Mart of guns.

Not sure if this link will work, but if it does - http://tinyurl.com/bmpj8n4

[Jess from VA]

There is nothing wrong with used firearms, so long as you check them out for damage and function (or get someone to help you).  Quality stuff keeps its value very well but there are deals to be had if you look around.  Just like bikes, many buy new, ride (shoot) little, and sell after a few years in perfect condition.  Used from a gun shop or pawn shop have almost certainly been run thru the computer to be sure they are not stolen.  In private sales you have to get to know and interview your seller and ultimately trust him, but I have done this many times with no issues.  And there is no paper trail, all perfectly legal.  A trick is to tell your potential private seller you are probably going to have the gun run thru the computer by a local FFL dealer, just to be safe, and if it's stolen the guy will suddenly NOT want to sell to you.  But he may be able to produce his purchased new receipt, and then all is golden.

Here is the new Craigslist for firearms.  http://www.armslist.com   Check I agree and go to FL.  It is my experience that advertised prices here are on the high end and most of these people will deal.

Unless they have sentimental value, you may have some value in your older pistols (esp the old Smith and Wesson, probably not so much for the Sentinel revolver) and  you could sell to build cash for another purchase.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/247821/gainesville-florida-handguns-for-sale--walther-p22-or-trade-cash-for--45-1911-dan-wesson-or-canon-camera-equipment

http://www.armslist.com/posts/246791/panama-city-florida-handguns-for-sale--ruger-target-22-45

http://www.armslist.com/posts/245940/tampa-handguns-for-sale--walther-p22-with-laser

http://www.armslist.com/posts/245650/gainesville-florida-handguns-for-sale--ruger-super-single-six

http://www.armslist.com/posts/242743/tampa-handguns-for-sale--fs---s-w-mod-15-2---excellent-condition  (I want this one)

http://www.armslist.com/posts/215184/orlando-florida-handguns-for-sale--s-w-smith-and-wesson--model-19-4-6--barrel---357-magnum

http://www.armslist.com/posts/248028/florida-handguns-for-sale-trade--xd9-od

[Chrisj CMA]

I know the question was about two pistols a revolver and a semi auto.  But I found a same bullet gun to go with my S&W 500 that would really be neat.  If I had a couple grand to waste this would be mine already. Its a .500 S&W Carbine lever action

To go with the .500S&W pistol

[Jess from VA]

You know Jeff, when the thread first started, it reminded me of the numerous discussions over the years about having a pistol (usually a revolver) and a light rifle (carbine) in the same caliber/bullet.  Of course all the old cowboys had the Colt single action and Winchester lever guns in 44.40.

So having a couple .44 mag wheelguns, I just had to get a Marlin 1894.  No pistol caliber will perform like a bottleneck rifle round, but at 100 yards and in that rifle rocks.  With hot 240grJHP you get a heck of a muzzle blast and a real stout kick.  Brand new from KMart around $300, 20yr ago.

EDIT: And, given the commonality of ammo issue presented in this thread, it's also nice that both rifle and pistol will shoot .44mag and lighter 44 special ammo.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/1894centerfire/1894.asp


The stainless is sweet.


To go with a .44 mag Ruger three-screw Super Blackhawk flattop with full tie-down buscadero rig with cartridge loops.



So I have the pistol and rifle rig and even a pair of chaps, but sadly no horse.  

[Chrisj CMA]

See thats not helping me.........now It seems cooler than ever........Hey Santa, is it too late LOL

[Chattanooga Mark]

How about three weapons and one caliber?  A Sig Sauer P226, P229 and a P239 all in 357 Sig. Now THAT's a system.

All the best,

Mark

[RoadKill]

How about three weapons and one caliber?  A Sig Sauer P226, P229 and a P239 all in 357 Sig. Now THAT's a system.

All the best,

Mark

That is AWESOME! I'd collect 357sig like a squirrel gathering nuts for the winter!