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I have a friend who's wife tips the scales at about 340 lbs. She's 5'3" and insists on riding with him every time he rides. Her mass causes him to have to literally sit on the tank of their Harley. aside from the amazing fact that the bike can even move carrying that load, it looks down right dangerous to me. If they were to go down, I shudder to think what the results would be. No way would I even consider hauling such a load on my bike.
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 10:54:06 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 11:15:17 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 11:28:36 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 11:33:16 AM » |
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I don't know man. Surely it wouldn't be pretty if any of us go down, but some would be messier than others. I know surgeons - if you can get them to admit such a P.I. thing - hate working on the morbidly obese. But the vertically challenged have a right to enjoy life too. At least that's what my doc calls me. And no, I'm not sayin what the scale says - other than the last time I stepped on a carnival scale, the card popped out & said "No Livestock please." What's his name, the "Classically trained chef" on Hairy Bikers, Dave maybe, obviously enjoys his work. He seems to like to ride too - but he would definitely be messy to operate on if needed. Maybe he could just think of it as being ahead of his time, with a permanently installed crash bag.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 11:34:26 AM » |
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Does he have a 1/2 ton pickup?
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 11:48:08 AM » |
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Why do we spend so much time talking about Harleys on a Valkyrie site? Adrian  |
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 12:05:08 PM » |
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Get a big side car !!!! Just think he count take a sharp right hander at a very high rate of speed.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 12:10:59 PM » |
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that is +1 Why? Easy. Her mass causes him to have to literally sit on the tank of their [bike]. That's why. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 12:20:58 PM » |
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"If they were to go down, I shudder to think what the results would be."That would depend on speed. My guess would be highway pegs, foot boards and maybe shifter or brake pedal. Crash bars would hopefully take the rest of it and save the tank as well as most chrome. All fixable. 
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I used to see a guy riding a sportster year around.....had to 400 lbs + looked like he had a sportster wedgy  he was very wide and as you all know the harley was narrow.....very entertaining to see as a kid. This is not to say I'm a skinny man 5' 11" 245 |
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I shudder to think what the results would be. Ever seen a pumpkin fall from a high place? Sweet JC, 5'3" and almost three and a half bills... I like my ladies thick and juicy but that's out of bounds. |
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 03:15:42 PM » |
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A simple check in the owner's manual will confirm she needs her own bike. No jokes or anything, just stating the obvious-that bike is seriously overloaded and it's the rider's job to make sure it's safe to let out the clutch. If someone chooses to be that heavy there are consquences and a long list of things you can't do. Sitting in my 13' canoe with me would be one example. She needs to ride solo if she cares anything for her old man.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:26:57 PM » |
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thats why I sold my 750 Shadow for the Valk. I was 6'4" and 375 I looked like I had a pair of wheels and some handlebars hanging out of my a$$. Bought the Valk and Wham! I lose 90lbs. Shoulda bought the Valk sooner...
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 04:30:00 PM » |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 04:39:16 PM » |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
Trike, bike, doesn't matter. She shouldn't be on it at that size. It's been my experience that people (not just women) with BMI's that grossly out of whack are dangerous in any situation where they are required to do anything physical. |
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Boxer rebellion, the Holy Child. They all pay their rent.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2011, 04:59:43 PM » |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
Trike, bike, doesn't matter. She shouldn't be on it at that size. It's been my experience that people (not just women) with BMI's that grossly out of whack are dangerous in any situation where they are required to do anything physical. Are you the one to determine what BMI is grossly out of proportion ? How does your fat ass even get off the couch?  None of us are ideal...but I am wrong in all the right ways! |
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2011, 05:41:29 PM » |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
Trike, bike, doesn't matter. She shouldn't be on it at that size. It's been my experience that people (not just women) with BMI's that grossly out of whack are dangerous in any situation where they are required to do anything physical. Your opinion is noted. Now, cram it up your posterior orifice. |
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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2011, 05:51:32 PM » |
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None of us ride motorcycles because it's the safe thing to do. If the bike is having trouble with it then he should buy a valk and put some HD440's on it. What ever makes them happy is what they should do. Safe or not, no body gets outta this alive anyway. All that matters is that you do what good you can and have a good time while you're doing it.
As Bob Dylan might have said, "I look like a mattress balanced on a bottle of wine" when I'm on my son's Ducati Monster, and beleive me when I say. I don't give a shi$, long as I'm having fun.
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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2011, 06:04:25 PM » |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
Trike, bike, doesn't matter. She shouldn't be on it at that size. It's been my experience that people (not just women) with BMI's that grossly out of whack are dangerous in any situation where they are required to do anything physical. Are you the one to determine what BMI is grossly out of proportion ? How does your fat ass even get off the couch? None of us are ideal...but I am wrong in all the right ways!  This woman's BMI is 60.2. Anyone who can read should know that is " grossly out of proportion". A BMI over 45 - 50 is the highest classification -- SUPER OBESITY. She is at EXTREMELY HIGH disease and life risk. Better go ahead and enjoy the ride because her body is a time bomb waiting for premature explosion.  |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
Trike, bike, doesn't matter. She shouldn't be on it at that size. It's been my experience that people (not just women) with BMI's that grossly out of whack are dangerous in any situation where they are required to do anything physical. Are you the one to determine what BMI is grossly out of proportion ? How does your fat ass even get off the couch? None of us are ideal...but I am wrong in all the right ways! This woman's BMI is 60.2. Anyone who can read should know that is " grossly out of proportion". A BMI over 45 - 50 is the highest classification -- SUPER OBESITY. She is at EXTREMELY HIGH disease and life risk. Better go ahead and enjoy the ride because her body is a time bomb waiting for premature explosion. Apparently donaldcc is the judge! And he has statistics to govern with. All bow in his presence ,lest you be judged next! Only liberal when it suits them I suppose  |
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2011, 06:18:27 PM » |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
 I couldn't agree with you more. This Valkyrie has brought my wife and I closer than anything we've ever done together. If she supports it and they enjoy it, who are we to judge. Unless they are concerned for their own well being, and it sounds they may be considering the options, what is the problem. I have seen plenty of people who shouldn't be on a bike. They were huge, had a balance problem. couldn't handle some situations, or were just too STUPID to no better for their own good. It is absolutely shameful that same would even discuss how it would be like to have to help them if they went down or were in a accident. It shouldn't make a difference whether they are 90 lbs. or 350 lbs. they still are human, a friend. |
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A trike should do it with an axle rated for 1/2 ton and some good 6 ply tires. It would give him a bit more room to ride comfortably as well.
Sounds like his better half supports his riding and why knock that. He just needs a machine rated for the load he's carrying.
Trike, bike, doesn't matter. She shouldn't be on it at that size. It's been my experience that people (not just women) with BMI's that grossly out of whack are dangerous in any situation where they are required to do anything physical. Are you the one to determine what BMI is grossly out of proportion ? How does your fat ass even get off the couch? None of us are ideal...but I am wrong in all the right ways! This woman's BMI is 60.2. Anyone who can read should know that is " grossly out of proportion". A BMI over 45 - 50 is the highest classification -- SUPER OBESITY. She is at EXTREMELY HIGH disease and life risk. Better go ahead and enjoy the ride because her body is a time bomb waiting for premature explosion. Yeah we're not talking about someone on the line here. 5'3" 340 lbs is getting into square shaped territory. There's no debating whether or not you're fat or big boned at that point. Unless you're a juvenile hoofed animal you're fat. |
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BMI??? OK; I looked it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_indexTried some online calculators and they are full of it. See above link - science warns that BMI is a population measure and not individual one. I'm 6'4, 260. Have a bit of a belly, no worse than most guys my age. Calculators tell me I'm in the OBESE category and that 81% of people have better BMI than moi. BMI is shortspeak for BITEMI.  |
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Is she aware of the BMI thing ? Maybe she dont know she is FAT! ...Who wants to step up and do the right thing by telling her ? ...for her health ??? How big an 'ole boy was piloting that bike with the whale on it? I think our liberal friends have something to tell him about his ole lady! If she doesnt know,you better tell him that she is ignorant too...ya know,for her sake ! Take one for the team ,boys! |
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Apparently donaldcc is the judge! And he has statistics to govern with. All bow in his presence ,lest you be judged next! Only liberal when it suits them I suppose I'm not judging her, just stating medical facts and risks. Personally, I think it is sad. You can ignore the facts if you like, i don't care. Wander through your life in ignorance if that is your pleasure. How does knowing that a Super Obese person has health risks make one a "liberal"?? ??? ??? |
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Is she aware of the BMI thing ? Maybe she dont know she is FAT! ...Who wants to step up and do the right thing by telling her ? ...for her health ??? How big an 'ole boy was piloting that bike with the whale on it? I think our liberal friends have something to tell him about his ole lady! If she doesnt know,you better tell him that she is ignorant too...ya know,for her sake ! Take one for the team ,boys! I was going to ask how the hay politics got into this. What's liberal about health awareness? But I won't axe. I mean ask. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts there are studies out there showing a greater degree obesity on the right side of the voting scales. I'd do a search but I have to get my obese carcass to bed. |
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Apparently donaldcc is the judge! And he has statistics to govern with. All bow in his presence ,lest you be judged next! Only liberal when it suits them I suppose I'm not judging her, just stating medical facts and risks. Personally, I think it is sad. You can ignore the facts if you like, i don't care. Wander through your life in ignorance if that is your pleasure. How does knowing that a Super Obese person has health risks make one a "liberal"?? ??? ??? I'm not ignoring facts....I just aint gonna be the one to tell her she is so fat it's like she maybe too stupid to know! You should probably tell her father and let him break the news to her. I'm too skeered to offer the poor woman that kind of help...instead I just talk about fat people in a group forum full of fat asses! |
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Is she aware of the BMI thing ? Maybe she dont know she is FAT! ...Who wants to step up and do the right thing by telling her ? ...for her health ??? How big an 'ole boy was piloting that bike with the whale on it? I think our liberal friends have something to tell him about his ole lady! If she doesnt know,you better tell him that she is ignorant too...ya know,for her sake ! Take one for the team ,boys! I was going to ask how the hay politics got into this. What's liberal about health awareness? But I won't axe. I mean ask. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts there are studies out there showing a greater degree obesity on the right side of the voting scales. I'd do a search but I have to get my obese carcass to bed. Nonjudgemental,live and let live,puppie dogs and rainbows,life liberty and persuit of twinkies and ho-ho's is all I meant by 'Liberal'  LOL |
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I have a friend who's wife tips the scales at about 340 lbs. She's 5'3" and insists on riding with him every time he rides. Her mass causes him to have to literally sit on the tank of their Harley. aside from the amazing fact that the bike can even move carrying that load, it looks down right dangerous to me. If they were to go down, I shudder to think what the results would be. No way would I even consider hauling such a load on my bike.
It just doesn't look dangerous, it is dangerous. The question isn't that the gal should look to a healthier lifestyle, her health is not relevant. The question is about her weight relative to the safety of riding a bike that is not designed to carry that weight. In the normal course of a leisurely bike ride, sure, all is well. But panic stops, having to make sudden evasive maneuvers, to handling some kind of equipment failure like a flat tire would be made more difficult by factors of magnitude such that you couldn't recover or make such maneuvers with such a significant excess in weight. I'll bet that the drive train on the bike is in a state of constant repair. Got a guy here in town that used to ride a crotch rocket. He weighs 400+ lbs. (After years of that He went to an 1800 VTX). But he would either trade off the bike every year or it was in for major repairs, Clutch, bearings, etc. far in excess of normal wear. I'm not a big fan of trikes, but this would be an exception. A trike conversion with a really beefed up suspension and drive train would be the ticket in making their ride as safe as it could be. Right now I'd say the race is on between them losing control and crashing or the bike just breaking. |
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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2011, 08:11:35 PM » |
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A Valk trike has worked marvelously for me for 11 years. I know from personal experience that you can "fix" fat. Arrogant, opinionated and stupid apparently need more work.
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I have a friend who's wife tips the scales at about 340 lbs. She's 5'3" and insists on riding with him every time he rides.......
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A Valk trike has worked marvelously for me for 11 years. I know from personal experience that you can "fix" fat. Arrogant, opinionated and stupid apparently need more work.
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Apparently donaldcc is the judge! And he has statistics to govern with. All bow in his presence ,lest you be judged next! Only liberal when it suits them I suppose I'm not judging her, just stating medical facts and risks. Personally, I think it is sad. You can ignore the facts if you like, i don't care. Wander through your life in ignorance if that is your pleasure. How does knowing that a Super Obese person has health risks make one a "liberal"?? ??? ??? ok you have menchioned the safty risks (and this is where the true ass in me shines thru) i am fat and was a special needs kids in school si i have the right to pick on fatties and retatds (dont make me point fingers.you know who you are) now back to the health risks donald, you must be one smelly mofo because 90% of the accidents in the homes are in the shower and a risk is a risk wether its a fat chick in the back of the bike or your scrubbing your balls. someone could get hurt. now has this womans husband bitched about the comfort of the rids ot and damage she has caused to thier bike? if not i dont think its anyones business to say just how fat is too fat and i think i still have pics of just how fat i am so that makes me an athoritity of fat and i use every inch of it.  |
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Apparently donaldcc is the judge! And he has statistics to govern with. All bow in his presence ,lest you be judged next! Only liberal when it suits them I suppose I'm not judging her, just stating medical facts and risks. Personally, I think it is sad. You can ignore the facts if you like, i don't care. Wander through your life in ignorance if that is your pleasure. How does knowing that a Super Obese person has health risks make one a "liberal"?? ??? ??? ok you have menchioned the safty risks (and this is where the true ass in me shines thru) i am fat and was a special needs kids in school si i have the right to pick on fatties and retatds (dont make me point fingers.you know who you are) now back to the health risks donald, you must be one smelly mofo because 90% of the accidents in the homes are in the shower and a risk is a risk wether its a fat chick in the back of the bike or your scrubbing your balls. someone could get hurt. now has this womans husband bitched about the comfort of the rids ot and damage she has caused to thier bike? if not i dont think its anyones business to say just how fat is too fat and i think i still have pics of just how fat i am so that makes me an athoritity of fat and i use every inch of it. That was my whole point, Junior. If it doesn't make a Rat's behind to either of them, what is it for someone else to say! |
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