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Author Topic: The Benefits of High Cholesterol Live Longer, Ride Longer  (Read 1204 times)
98valk
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« on: December 21, 2011, 12:22:46 PM »

live longer and be healthy so u can ride longer.
but it is actually polyunsaturated fats, not saturated fats or cholesterol, that contribute to heart disease, cancer, liver damage, and aging.

http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/benefits-of-high-cholesterol

People with high cholesterol live the longest. This statement seems so incredible that it takes a long time to clear one´s brainwashed mind to fully understand its importance. Yet the fact that people with high cholesterol live the longest emerges clearly from many scientific papers. Consider the finding of Dr. Harlan Krumholz of the Department of Cardiovascular Medicine at Yale University, who reported in 1994 that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart attack as did old people with a high cholesterol.1 Supporters of the cholesterol campaign consistently ignore his observation, or consider it as a rare exception, produced by chance among a huge number of studies finding the opposite.

But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for coronary heart disease. This was the result of my search in the Medline database for studies addressing that question.2 Eleven studies of old people came up with that result, and a further seven studies found that high cholesterol did not predict all-cause mortality either.

Now consider that more than 90 % of all cardiovascular disease is seen in people above age 60 also and that almost all studies have found that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for women.2 This means that high cholesterol is only a risk factor for less than 5 % of those who die from a heart attack.

But there is more comfort for those who have high cholesterol; six of the studies found that total mortality was inversely associated with either total or LDL-cholesterol, or both. This means that it is actually much better to have high than to have low cholesterol if you want to live to be very old.

more info if interested

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/

The War on Good Food
According to Brown and Goldstein, the next "battle" of the "Cholesterol Wars" will be fought over what age someone should be before they start cholesterol-lowering therapy. The ideal therapy, they say, is a low-fat, low-cholesterol diet rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids.

That means the following: no butter, no eggs, no liver or other organ meats. A diet of dry plant foods, with small amounts of corn oil, soybean oil, and perhaps a few capsules of fish oil.

As you will learn on this site, this diet is not only bland and boring, but it is missing the most nutritious and health-promoting foods the earth has to offer! Not only that, but it is actually polyunsaturated fats, not saturated fats or cholesterol, that contribute to heart disease, cancer, liver damage, and aging.As you will learn on this site, one of cholesterol's most important functions is to support learning and memory — that is why the brain is so rich in cholesterol, and that is probably why statin drugs can cause a disorder called transient global amnesia.

In low-risk populations, over 600 people need to take a statin to save one from a heart attack. In high-risk populations, over 60 people need to take one. Yet the rate of side effects like muscle pain is much higher, and the worst side effects — failing memory, depression, irritability — are chalked up to personality or age and never recorded.




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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 12:47:30 PM »

Oss puts on his hip waders and goggles and steps in............

I eat eggs every day, I love fruit shakes with Yogurt (Gig got me hooked on them)
I eat red meat and love hot dogs (okay kosher hot dogs)  butter with my pancakes and lots of real maple syrup

My cholesterol is 160 give or take depending on whether I just has a
corned beef pastrami combo sandwich  If you have seen them you would eat them too  ask the last texans to pass this way...

Far as I am concerned I am eating the diet my grandparents used which got them to 100
years.

They outlived all their doctors and some of  their doctor's children

Also gpa would drink a shot of schnapps in the morning before work and one before dinner
but he worked outside until 70 yrs of age

I think the less sugar we eat the better and that infection and inflammation is the enemy
In fact I think I am a year overdue for a teeth cleaning  Oral infections are IMHO more likely to lead to heart problems and blocked arteries  But thanks for the info in any event it was interesting

I am 55 now,  Lets meet in 30 years and see whose diet is working better
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 01:10:19 PM »

I'm still here and I'm 83.  My cholesterol is 150.  I eat similiar to OSS.  My dad never had heart problems and neither do I.

I eat sensibly, eat red meat, eat eggs, etc, I don't smoke, and I exercise.

If we believed every NEW study that comes out, we would be nervous wrecks trying to figure things out.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 02:41:44 PM »

LETS EAT!!!!!! I eat as I please. I'm 55 and take no prescription drugs.  I do have a painkiller for back issues but its not a daily. 128 over 82 as of last week. Cholesterol is 155 also. A little outta breath but I couild easily lose 20 or 30 lbs. Red meat isnt so much but I looove the pig. Butter on the toast and pancakes that have "Christmas spices" and peaches. I'm not a smoker and I am quite active.
Theres a website, lookie "Paleo Diet". Its interesting but tonites Chinese Buffet and I'm Irish.
#2 on the oral infection stuff. I had a rotten tooth and it made me real tired and heart burnie.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 02:42:57 PM »

Man, this is great news!!!  cooldude

I've been scrapping with my doc over this. She had me on Crestor. I was a cripple! My lower back was horrible. My knees, a close second. Did the 'bad thing' (googled and did a bit of personal research) and found numerous others with these side-effects. Lately, she's on me again (I wish....) to take a new script and try it a week on, week off, to confirm or dispel the link to Crestor.
Haven't done it nor do I plan to.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 03:16:32 PM »

    I like my burgers thick and juicy and here is one from last week.



  Also like eggs and chicken fried steak!  cooldude


  But . . . just because something is on the internet doesn't mean it is true.  IMHO Weston A. Price Foundation is one of those that ain't.  People much more knowledgeable than me think a lot of what they promote is a bunch of crap.  Just saying.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 03:29:26 PM »

Sounds like the truth to me. I'm 54 years old and take no prescription medicine and haven't since 2008 when I broke my leg. I have no idea what my cholesterol is since I haven't been to a doc since 2008 either.

I do know my blood pressure is normal in-spite of my being 50lbs overweight. I eat red meat 5 to 7 days a week and always have. I camp out and hunt most weekends from Oct. 1'st till late Dec. and take a week or two of vacation so I can camp for at least one 5 day stretch.

I do electrical and mechanical repairs in a non-air-conditioned plant which stays in the upper 90's or above for a month or two every year. And, aside from some problems with the leg/bone plate I seem pretty healthy. I think, if I had refused the bone plate I'd be real healthy.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 03:50:37 PM »



  yeah, fortunately though i am now 59 ( Cry) i am a healthy guy also.  I think a large part of longevity is who your parents and grandparents are and that makes a HUGE difference.  Mine lived into 90's and my mom is 83.  Except dad down at 63 with lung cancer -- big smoker.

   i'm not pushing any agenda, but definitely believe what goes into our body makes a difference, just like what we put in our Valkeries.  We all know what controversy that makes, type of oil, gas etc.  so, not surprising that there is debate about the foods we eat and beverages we drink.   ???


  i could consume less adult beverage and skip my burgers, but, know what?  i don't want to.

   nuff said.  Lips Sealed

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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 03:59:18 PM »

Not my words

1. Don’t eat anything your great grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. “When you pick up that box of portable yogurt tubes, or eat something with 15 ingredients you can’t pronounce, ask yourself, “What are those things doing there?”.

2. Don’t eat anything with more than five ingredients; or ingredients you can’t pronounce.

3. Stay out of the middle of the supermarket; shop on the perimeter of the store. Real food tends to be on the outer edge of the store near the loading docks, where it can be replaced with fresh foods when it goes bad.

4. “Twinkies aren’t food.” Don’t eat anything that won’t eventually rot. “There are exceptions — honey — but as a rule, things like Twinkies that never go bad are not food”.

5. “Always leave the table a little hungry”. It is not just what you eat but how you eat. “Many cultures have rules that you stop eating before you are full. In Japan, they say eat until you are four-fifths full. Islamic culture has a similar rule, and in German culture they say, ‘Tie off the sack before it’s full.’”

6. “Eat meals together, at regular meal times.” Families traditionally ate together, around a table and not a TV, at regular meal times. It’s a good tradition. Enjoy meals with the people you love. “Remember when eating between meals felt wrong?”.

7, Don’t buy food where you buy your gasoline. In the U.S., 20% of food is eaten in the car.

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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 05:04:24 PM »

7, Don’t buy food where you buy your gasoline. In the U.S., 20% of food is eaten in the car.
I like that one and would add don't eat where you can order from your car!
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 07:15:31 AM »

corned beef pastrami combo sandwich 

[homersimpsonfont]UMMMMMMM!corned beef pastrami combo sandwich![/homersimpsonfont]
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2011, 08:11:38 AM »

I can remember something my dad said a good while before he died.  "I'll eat what I want and when I want it.  If I die tomorow I die tomorrow, I will not be told what I can eat  I am 83 years old and you are not my mother."  My father would eat anything you put in front of him, meat, veggies, wild game, snake, if anyone could cook it he'd eat it.  My father died at the age of 84, and he died a happy well fed man........
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