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« on: December 22, 2011, 05:47:47 PM »

hows this for stupid.Jimmy Carter sends his condolences to N.Korea and wishes the new leader every sucess.I wish he would just shut up an go back to peanut farming
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 05:55:38 PM »

I kinda get it. He's trying to be the bigger man. I prefer that to celebrating openly. And "success" is subjective.

But were I him I probably just wouldn't say anything at all.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 06:07:05 PM »

hows this for stupid.Jimmy Carter sends his condolences to N.Korea and wishes the new leader every sucess.I wish he would just shut up an go back to peanut farming

  yeh, i don't get it.  the nut case Kim Jong-il who has repressed his people for decades is gone.  do not think we should celebrate death, but you sure will not see any tears rolling down my cheeks about this one (in contrast to the contrived mass depression of the N Koreans). 

  we are free in the US to say what we want, but, i agree, carter should be boiling a few peanuts.

 
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 06:12:34 PM »

I wouldn't mind seeing N. Korea loosen it's hard line stance and get a more internationally friendly government.  No better time to make that change than when the dictator dies.

Although Carter may have been soft at times, he did put in a lot of effort at middle east peace matters.  Comments to North Korea wishing "success" from Carter don't suprise me at all.

I wish them success abandoning their communist dictatorship and adopting democracy.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 06:16:59 PM »

We should have kept the canal and gave Carter away.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 06:20:53 PM »

i think it would be a good idea for old James to go to the funeral, maybe try and teach them how to me a "kinder" group of communists.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 06:55:11 PM »

I kinda get it. He's trying to be the bigger man. I prefer that to celebrating openly. And "success" is subjective.

But were I him I probably just wouldn't say anything at all.

 2funny uglystupid2 uglystupid2 2funny 2funny

As if.. 2funny 2funny YOU  Cheesy  Had any IDEA how to  Shocked 2funny crazy2 2funny SAY NOTHING AT ALL! !   Shocked  Roll Eyes  uglystupid2

You should repost this over in the Joke thread...Moderators will probably move it there for you  2funny 2funny     coolsmiley
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 07:04:51 PM »

I kinda get it. He's trying to be the bigger man. I prefer that to celebrating openly. And "success" is subjective.

But were I him I probably just wouldn't say anything at all.

 2funny uglystupid2 uglystupid2 2funny 2funny

As if.. 2funny 2funny YOU  Cheesy  Had any IDEA how to  Shocked 2funny crazy2 2funny SAY NOTHING AT ALL! !   Shocked  Roll Eyes  uglystupid2

You should repost this over in the Joke thread...Moderators will probably move it there for you  2funny 2funny     coolsmiley

I said "were I him". I'm not Jimmy Carter though so...
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 08:11:11 PM »

Carter needs to be quiet now. He's also the one who started all the racism comments involving Obama.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 09:54:37 PM »

I kinda get it. He's trying to be the bigger man. I prefer that to celebrating openly. And "success" is subjective.

But were I him I probably just wouldn't say anything at all.

gotta side with Anvil on this
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 10:08:14 PM »

 Carter is a great humanitarian. When any of you do one tenth of what he has for those in need then I will take your opinion as worthy of consideration. ???
 
 America would be lucky if anyone here was as great a man as He.
No, not popular, but in my book that's a good thing.  He told the truth about America and where we were headed. Nobody listened, and look where we are today. Sad
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 10:14:29 PM »

Carter is a great humanitarian. When any of you do one tenth of what he has for those in need then I will take your opinion as worthy of consideration. ???
 
 America would be lucky if anyone here was as great a man as He.
No, not popular, but in my book that's a good thing.  He told the truth about America and where we were headed. Nobody listened, and look where we are today. Sad
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 11:37:34 PM »

Oh man. . .  Carter was a good President, or as is all the rave now; "he is such a good man!" Are you stinking kidding me? HAHA!  WOW! Carter, at best, is a mean, spiteful fool who never got over losing the election to Reagan. At worst; he’s a lying, American hating, incompetent who was (and remains) in way over his head. You can like him or even love him. That's ok. What you can't do is change the FACTS! Maybe memories are just short? If so, let me help.

*While President Reagan was applying considerable pressure to Daniel Ortega, the military dictator of Nicaragua, in hopes of winning some democratic reforms for the suffering people of that woeful nation, Mr. Carter embraced the communist regime and urged his Habitat for Humanity to build in Nicaragua and to support the Cuban backed Sandinista’s people’s revolution.

*While President Bush was striving to garner world-wide support and a military coalition to reverse the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, Carter actually wrote letters to all members of the United Nations Security Council urging them to restrain from any resistance or interference of the Iraqi aggression and to prevent President Bush from protecting Kuwait. (He could have – and should have – been charged with treason!)

*While President Clinton was resisting North Korea’s Kim Il Sung’s efforts to acquire nuclear weapons, Mr. Carter traveled to Pyongyang and praised the “Great Leader” as being intelligent, vigorous and well informed in the affairs of the world.  He declared Pyongyang to be a “....bustling city where shoppers pack the department stores” reminding him of the Wal-Mart in Americus, Georgia.  He acclaimed the peaceful intentions of Kim’s regime and stated “I don't see that they are an outlaw nation.”

*When President George W. Bush was having his plate full with Islamic terrorism in our homeland and Carter's “good friend” Yassar Arafat was exploding helpless Jewish babies, children, women and innocent citizens, Mr. Carter decided to once again meddle in America’s foreign affairs and to lecture President Bush on how to conduct diplomacy with another of the many despots that Mr. Carter always holds in high esteem.

Here's some action by Carter showing his open admiration for international oppressors. 

*While Carter was president, he openly declared Yugoslavia’s strongman and dictatorial ruler, Marshall Tito, as “a man who believes in human rights.” 
 
*While Carter was president he said of Romania’s barbaric Nikolae Ceausescu and himself,  “Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and politics . . . We believe in enhancing human rights.”

*Carter has praised the virtues and humanitarianism of Syria’s late Hafez al-Assad (killer of at least 20,000 in Hama)

*Carter actually praised Ethiopian tyrant Mengistu Haile Mariam.  Ethiopians spent 17 years living under the bloody control of this despot. Mengistu ordered the execution of tens of thousands of his own people, and even blocked food aid during the catastrophic famine of Ethiopia to punish his opponents. 

*In Haiti, during the 1994 intervention of the Clinton administration trying to remove the military junta that overthrew elected president Jean-Bertrand Aristide in a bloody coup in September 1991, seven months after Aristide was sworn in as Haiti's first democratically elected president, our sharp-witted Mr. Carter told the dictator Raul Cédras that he was “....ashamed of what my country has done to your country.”

*In September of 2001, Carter said to his admirer James Zogby, Islamic activist and premier fund raiser for Yassar Arafat and the PLO,  “I think the sanctions are hurting the people of Iraq, and not Saddam Hussein, whom I consider to be a dictator, and I think an insensitive dictator, and he is able now to blame all of his maybe self-induced problems, economically and socially, on the United States because of our sanctions and because of our fairly infrequent aerial attacks.”  Wow, was he ever tough on Saddam!  Carter actually referred to him as an “insensitive dictator”.

*Mr. Carter has for years openly supported Yasser Arafat against Israel.  He has spent considerable time aiding, consulting and even drafting speeches for the Palestinian terrorist to insure the language used would be western style and would gain the most influence for western civilizations and news organizations.

The bottom line is THIS:

When he became president on January 20, 1976 Carter inherited a thriving economy with low inflation, low unemployment and low interest rates.  Actually, the “Prime Rate” was at 6 3/4% when Carter took office.  By the time Carter was humbled at the polls four years later and the American people had categorically rejected his leadership, the “Prime Rate” stood at its all-time high of 21 ½%, the economy was in shambles, the Panama Canal was gone, and the country was suffering the shame of over 400 days of disgrace and humiliation by a tin-horn preacher from a third-world country.

Jimmy Carter is the president who has set the record for cowardice and incompetence that will stand until. . . . Well, now that I think about it, it may fall next year and Obama will take the title from him!
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 03:47:41 AM »

Oh man. . .  Carter was a good President, or as is all the rave now; "he is such a good man!" Are you stinking kidding me? HAHA!  WOW! Carter, at best, is a mean, spiteful fool who never got over losing the election to Reagan. At worst; he’s a lying, American hating, incompetent who was (and remains) in way over his head. You can like him or even love him. That's ok. What you can't do is change the FACTS! Maybe memories are just short? If so, let me help.

*While President Reagan was applying
Jimmy Carter is the president who has set the record for cowardice and incompetence that will stand until. . . . Well, now that I think about it, it may fall next year and Obama will take the title from him!
Peace~
 



Those are not "facts" you listed, but someone else's opinion from a blog in 2002: http://www.davidstuff.com/opinion/carter.htm

So maybe that opinion mirrors yours, fine. Facts they ain't; rather a slanted view on things.
Mr. Carter is a statesman of the highest order. There are times when reaching out accomplishes more for one's strategic interests than shock& awe. Heck, when I was young and full of P&V, I remember "hating" him during the rescue fiasco in Iran.
But, opinions are like ***. Some think he's a statesman; some a think he's a Jane Fonda. Others - like you - think someone like Bachmann is the definition of a statesman.

Carter will not be the only figure seeing this as an opportunity to draw the lunatics in NK towards civilization with a bit of civility. It doesn't mean he supports the cartoon characters running the show there. And...didn't he use just that approach in the past to secure release of people held there?

Not only is he a "good man" he is also a very smart man. I hope to have ten percent of his accumen when I get to be his age.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 05:37:43 AM »

yeah, i liked carter when he was president.  intrest rates (for a business) were 21%, and a 5 year CD paid out 18%!!  boy, those were the days...... ???
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 06:09:49 AM »

And remember the lines at the gas pumps as well as what's stated above. I was in the construction business at the time and we couldn't build anything because no one could get a loan. No natural gas for heating. I remember it being the worst times in America. Except maybe for the last 2 years.
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2011, 06:24:52 AM »

I kinda get it. He's trying to be the bigger man. I prefer that to celebrating openly. And "success" is subjective.

But were I him I probably just wouldn't say anything at all.





As Ron White says:

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Maybe Carter doesn't have the "ability", and Anvil well...................... ?  Evil
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2011, 06:30:26 AM »



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"I knew that I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability."


Now that's flippin funny. There seem to be a lot of folks on the Internet similarly afflicted. I've been trying to work my way off that list.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2011, 07:24:02 AM »

The best thing for Carter is having Obama as president. Now Carter may be replaced as the worst US president in many, many years. Not sure, has Carter ever found a dictator or other oppressive leader he didn't like and try to snuggle up to?

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2011, 07:59:13 AM »

Carter needs to be quiet now. He's also the one who started all the racism comments involving Obama.

the Carter administration sent some kind of leather do dad to India's prime minister.  (the cows are sacred over there)   I think he also made some comment while running for president about 'ethnic purity'
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2011, 08:12:22 AM »

Those dang presidents... always up to no good. Making interest rates go up, creating oil shortages.
Generating unemployment. All on their own whim and powers.

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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2011, 08:13:16 AM »

I found an interesting item regarding James Earl Carter.  On 9 September 2012, if he is living at that time, he will become the president with the longest retirement time, that is the most years survived after leaving office.  Lest one assume that was because he was so young at inauguration, he is seventeenth on that list.  The youngest president at inauguration was among the shortest in years of retirement.    
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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2011, 08:17:51 AM »

Man. . . arguing on the internet. . .  is there anything more idiotic? I can only stand so much 'slanting of history' to fit a world view, or to paraphrase Reagan “saying so much that isn’t so” before I pop a cork.

You caught me Darkmister. . .  I DID indeed copy much of the above from an internet site of a friend of mine. Nice searching. I guess that invalidates everything, eh? Oh wait! You HAVEN’T challenged a single FACT, only stated they were ‘opinions.’ Please, by all means, show where Carter DIDN’T do any of the above? You can’t. But, please don’t let anything get in the way of a good emotion or feeling.

Why you want to turn this personal is beyond me, but you have. . .  So, we disagree with historical fact and as a counter to that, you say I think Michelle Bachman is a statesman. Actually, I don’t know what kind of ‘statesmen’ she’d be. A much stronger one than currently ‘occupies’ (new meaning to that word of late, eh?) the White House I suspect.

I’ll end it here. Go ahead and fire away. You can’t win an argument of ideals, nor one involving any facts. Carter was a horrible President. I was a new husband and a young father during his time in office, so I remember it well. I also know YOUR mindset much better than you know mine. In 1976 I was a card carrying, proud liberal democrat. I was on the reelection staff of Congressman Bob Carr, voted the most liberal congressman every year he was in office. I use to love a good emotional rant, but as I ‘grew up’ those pesky facts kept getting in the way.

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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2011, 08:25:01 AM »

One of the funniest things I have ever seen was a photo op of Carter down on the farm.  They were trying to show that he was a good old common country boy.  He was fishing in a small pond out of a little aluminum boat, wearing bib overalls, and was alone in the boat, but the effect was a little flawed by the crowd of newsies, security, and such ringing the pond.  They tried to show as few as possible though.  Just after they had him positioned in the pond for maximum effect a swamp rabbit shot out of the weeds into the pond and was swimming in the general direction of the President.  Some of the crowd must have scared the poor thing.  Our boy Jimmy went into an utter panic, and was desperately rowing for the bank to escape the beast. This was done live and they couldnt edit it out, the look on his face was priceless.  Absolutely cracked me up.
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2011, 08:42:35 AM »

Master Blaster; I remember that incident. If you want to have some fun, Google Billy Carter for some laughs. It’s not fair to attach him to his brother, but Ol’Billy was a laugh a minute and his “Billy beer” sucked!! (I had a six-pack ‘saved’ thinking they might be worth something ‘someday’ but my brothers drank them! LOL) I don’t feel strongly enough to try and search for any ‘Billy Factoids’ but I remember there was something potentially serious about Billy’s “doings.” Wasn’t he accused of being a paid lobbyist for some Arab dictator?  He was getting checks the entire time Jimmy was President?   
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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2011, 09:22:17 AM »

His "Food as a weapon" policy was frickin' brilliant. U.S. grain prices plummeted. The U.S. farmer gave up market share. It sent U.S. grain farming into a depression that lasted decades and brought about the farm foreclosures of the 1980's.
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« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2011, 11:37:39 AM »

Quote from Alan M. Dershowitz is a professor of law at Harvard. "It pains me to say this, but I now believe that there is no person in American public life today who has a lower ratio of real to apparent integrity than Jimmy Carter."

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26364
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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2011, 12:49:10 PM »

Quote from Alan M. Dershowitz is a professor of law at Harvard. "It pains me to say this, but I now believe that there is no person in American public life today who has a lower ratio of real to apparent integrity than Jimmy Carter."

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26364



Coming from a LAWYER.  2funny Take that with a pillar of salt.
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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2011, 01:46:16 PM »

Quote from Alan M. Dershowitz is a professor of law at Harvard. "It pains me to say this, but I now believe that there is no person in American public life today who has a lower ratio of real to apparent integrity than Jimmy Carter."

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26364



Coming from a LAWYER.  2funny Take that with a pillar of salt.


Is that the best you can come up with? uglystupid2

Your 15.88 posts per day is slipping.

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« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2011, 03:47:38 PM »

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Bill Clinton whilst President called Kim Jung IL to tell him he was sorry about him losing his Uncle.

Ole Kim never forgot.

When the two Press People were nabbed on the wrong side of the border in N. Korea.

Clinton was the man who Kim liked or at least knew and liked, so when Clinton called

and asked him to release the two reporters into his cmpany....

Kim obliged and Clinton once again was a hero and the two young Ladies were out of jail an on plane with Clinton headed to the USA.

Like Ron Paul said Better to talk to your enemies at least,, than bomb them everytime you feel like it.
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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2011, 03:51:40 PM »

Kim obliged and Clinton once again was a hero and the two young Ladies were out of jail an on plane with Clinton headed to the USA.


Bow-chicka wow-wow...

Word on the street is that KJL's kid is as crazy (if not crazier) than his old man. But that actually means very little. Maybe he's just been waiting for his old man to die so he can slowly (because any other speed would be a system shock that would further destabilize North Korea) reunify or at least modernize the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/23/world/asia/north-korea-delegations/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Or maybe he thinks he's bigger than Elvis and will kidnap and kill them. But for the time being it should be assumed that there's an opportunity to grasp. If it turns out not be then that's fine, but don't let them pin the tail on your donkey. At least you can say you tried.
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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2011, 04:29:08 PM »

+1 cooldude
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